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3 minutes ago, GHT120 said:
OR ... the Oilers were just THAT "stupid".
He was the consensus #1 pick that year so a lot of pressure to draft him. It's became a pretty well known story in Edmonton that the scouts wanted them to take Ryan Murray instead but........
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To be more precise, Burke on Yakupov.
"We weren't going to take him. His draft interview was the worst interview I've ever had in my life. Terrible," Burke said on Monday's episode of the "Spittin' Chiclets" podcast.
When asked why the interview went so poorly, Burke did not hold back.
"He was defiant, obnoxious, and sullen," he continued. "John Lilley, one of our scouts ... almost fought him in the interview, so it was not a good interview."
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3 hours ago, Meller93 said:
I recall nail Yakupov being a very animated interview as well. We all know how that panned out.
I remember Brian Burke saying Yakupov was the worst interview ever. He was right. Animated doesn't mean good.
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1 hour ago, DON said:
There we go...Xhekaj 5 minute major...in OT...Spitfires win 4-3.
Ouch. That's not what you call "picking your spot".
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4 hours ago, GHT120 said:
For what it's worth, I agree.
I don't agree or disagree as I am no pro scout. I just hope Commandant is 100% right about Wright and he turns into the best player from the draft.
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39 minutes ago, Commandant said:
Wright has the highest floor of anyone in this class.
Wright has the highest ceiling of anyone in this class as well.
I'm tired of the debate. Wright is a no-brainer IMO. Just make the pick and lets move on to what else we do in the draft.
Who would you like to see available at 26 and 33 if the Habs don't move up?
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7 hours ago, JoeLassister said:
I don't watch that many games in the West, but we're quick to ditch out the guy who just posted the best offensive season for a dman since Phil Housley in 92-93.
I don't think anybody is ditching Roman Josi who is an elite player and had a terrific year. I just wouldn't put him in my top 5 but that is just my opinion and my opinion is likely biased toward players I see more often which I guess is natural. Josi did have a phenomenal year (96pts) and didn't get the recognition he deserved for it. If he played in Toronto they would be debating whether he or Mathews deserved the MVP award.
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5 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:
Im not sure what Edmonton can do to turn this around both in this series and going forward. They need a goalie and a good winger (another D would help too).
Part of this of course is that the Avs are solid from top to bottom and if Francouze can keep playing like this then the series is over.
The bottom line here is that the Avs are an elite team, the Oilers certainly have some elite all world talent but they are not an elite team. The Avs have no holes. The Avs are also hungry from previous failures which makes them even more dangerous. Playing the Avs is far different than playing the Flames who I think over achieved this year. I think the Oilers take 1 game at home and then it's over in 5.
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2 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Oh, sure - I’m fine with this soft-tank model, which really boils down to smart asset management.
Exactly, can't argue with smart asset management.
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Certainly there appear to be no issues with Wright from the neck up, high hockey IQ, mature, intelligent. He does appear to be the safe choice. If he can be a 70 point guy, play a strong 2 way game and be a leader then it will have turned out to be a good pick. Anything above that is gravy.
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7 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said:
Habs got Barron and a 2nd, Barron is good value and the trade may become great if the Habs pick a winner with that 2nd
Drouin would do great in Edmonton, but with their cap situation and their lack of depth, I do not know what the Habs may get
I agree that the Habs got really good value with the Lehkonen trade. He is a much better fit on a contending team and it shouldn't be a surprise that he is doing really well with Colorado.
I don't think Drouin has much value on the trade market, he might get some interest at the trade deadline. Kane is actually a much better fit in Edmonton if they can resign him as he provides a physical presence that is really helpful for McDavid although they have played him on different lines at times.
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24 minutes ago, DON said:
Not St.Louis's mandate anyways;
Basu The Athletic:
" “I mean, I think I’ll always have that pressure, my own internal pressure,” St. Louis said. “I don’t like to lose, but do I want to win in a short-term mindset, so to speak, at the price of not developing the young guys that are going to help you win for years? No, I don’t want to risk that. So I want to have the young guys, the prospects, the players that are here now, reach their full potential, and sometimes you’ve got to put those guys on the ice and make them feel confident on the ice. And short-term, does that not help you win as many games? I don’t know. But I’m not going to go in the season and just think about I have to win every game at the price of not developing the young guys. I’m not doing that".
Sounds good to me and not much choice i dont think.
Looking back I think DD felt more short term pressure to win because they made the final the year before and developing the young guys was a secondary consideration which ultimately led to his downfall. I think St. Louis is in a much better position to succeed as the expectations are a little different. The pressure on St. Louis will be to develop the young guys properly which I believe is something he can succeed at. Team success will follow at some point down the road.
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2 hours ago, DON said:
Poor Oilers, geting ass handed to them. down 3-0 mid game...Go #97 Go!
Starting to look like they will get the Oilers 2nd round pick this year. Down 2-0 to Colorado is not a good spot to be in.
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5 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said:
Don’t be facetious , not next years
In 3-4 years after the rebuild
Sorry, I thought you said "next year", I will have to learn to read your mind a little better.
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52 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said:
I am baffled by the prospect of expecting a powerhouse team after only one year in the bottom-3 of the league
Who on this forum is expecting them to be a powerhouse team next year?
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38 minutes ago, DON said:
Possible candidate worthy of trading up from 26 for.
This guy is highly rated and would certainly be worth trading up for. How high could the Habs move up if they packaged 26, 33 and the Oilers 2nd rounder (62, assuming they lose to Colorado) and/or their own 3rd round pick (66).
Minnesota gets an extra 2nd round pick as compensation because they didn't sign their first round pick so the Habs move down 1 spot with with some of their picks.
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46 minutes ago, tomh009 said:
I think this is right. They are likely not expecting to be in the playoffs next season, but I don't think they are intentionally targeting finishing at the bottom of the standings again.
I don't think they are targeting that either either but it could happen. The Habs will likely be a bottom 10 team next year but it can be hard to predict from year to year. Price gets healthy, some of the young kids develop quicker than planned and they might surprise. I wouldn't bet on that happening but you never know.
Now what would be really nice is for Florida to have an unexpected bad year next year.
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4 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said:
I think he provide some positivity next season if they plan to tank.
The plan isn't to "tank", the plan is develop young players and rebuild something that needs to be fixed. There is no overnight fix here.
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5 hours ago, Commandant said:
Firkus is three inches taller and still 15 pounds lighter than Caufield. The strength concerns me as he's really slight.
You also have a limit on how many of these size of players you can carry on one team, though Caufield obviously has a place in the league.
Fair point, although he is short, Caulfield is sturdily built. It will be interesting to see where Firkus goes, he can sure shoot the puck.
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30 minutes ago, Commandant said:
Jagger Firkus is like 150 lbs on most sites. I'm interested to see what he comes in at the combine, but if he's that small, i don't want him before the late second.
I am guessing he will be gone before late 2nd round. Teams that overlooked Caulfield because of his size won't make the same mistake again.
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16 hours ago, DON said:
It was simply that fella's draft ranking, it seems will be a bunch of solid looking options at 26.
What would Pick #26 + Pick #33 = 20th pick (Wash.)? JUST what if.
You would think that pick 26 and 33 would move you up 6 spots. I guess you need to find an organization that is looking to build depth in their prospect pool. Plus it would have to be for a guy you really want, hard to say who will drop and become attractive at a certain spot. It's the kind of deal you would make on the fly, tough to arrange too far ahead of time as you don't know who the other teams are picking.
As we have stated before, Habs need quality not quantity and I think HuGo is thinking the same thing so I would be surprised if they don't at least try to move up. I know some really like Mateychuk and I have seen him listed all over the place, same with Lambert.
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10 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said:
if he is a LW, he would fit perfectly with Suzuki and Caufield.
He is a LW and he would likely fit very well with Caulfield and Suzuki but I think having another strong center is a big priority. I would like to get both but that is likely just a dream.
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13 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:
There seems to be a lot of people thinking we should take Slavkovsky but I don’t think HuGo are even considering it.
Great breakdown Tom
I think there is no question that Slavkovsky has given HuGo something to think about. He is an intriguing combination of size and talent. If it's a toss up then I think you take the center.
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7 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:
I think Ducharme broke KK’s spirit a bit by benching him during our run. I also believe that the Habs development program was very poor. I’m certainly not giving him a pass but we did not give him a winning hand out of the gate.
I also maintain that it was a bit of a risk to take him at #3 and we were in no place to risk at that time. If I remember KK was on most lists between 6-10 overall.
To see HuGo invest in our player development system is very encouraging and along with utilizing modern analytics has me hopeful
The biggest mistake was keeping him at age 18 hoping/praying that he would be our saviour at the centre ice position. When you are 18 you need to be playing 20 minutes/game somewhere so you can develop. He also wasn't mature enough to handle the ups and downs. Lesson learned hopefully.
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I think you are correct and I think Brian Burke sort of implied the same thing where he thought Yakupov had the attitude that "I'll be long gone by the time you draft so why waste my time talking to you" and he was long gone by the time the Leafs drafted. It did turn out well for the Leafs as they got Reilly at 5.