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3 hours ago, DON said:
Because he is highly skilled Russian with puck and some of that type turn out pretty darn good.
Can also read any scouting report, or watch youtube bit on him and seems pretty similar description and ranking, a top 5-10 pick.
There are some scouts who love Demidov, McCagg thinks he is just as good as Michkov with a better attitude. I don't know if the Russian factor will drop him in the rankings but he is a very skilled winger. It might be hard for the Habs to overlook him if he is available when they draft but he likely isn't.
Ivan Demidov | Ivan Demidov Profile | Ivan Demidov Scouting Report 2024 (mynhldraft.com)
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44 minutes ago, Commandant said:
Im going to the mat for Helenius. Im telling you this is the guy. Ive seriously got him at #2.
Theres just something there. I think hes gonna be a star.
This is how i felt on Quinn Hughes back in the day
I like it when people are firm in their belief and don't waffle. Helenius has been in the 5-10 range in almost every mock draft I have looked at so I am sure the Habs are scouting him carefully. I would love to see the Habs get another top 15 pick but that is very unlikely.
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1 hour ago, GHT120 said:
POTENTIALLY the Habs will have more young defencemen than they need, whether or not they draft a D with their first pick this year
When you look at the number of young defensemen the Habs have that are currently in the NHL (ie. Struble, Xhekaj, Guhle, Harris, Kovacevic) and then you will have Mailloux and Barron knocking on the door next year and then you will have Reinbacher, Huston and maybe Engstrom after that (did I forget anyone), I think it's more than potentially and it's coming soon. And what if they decide to keep Matheson and Savard around for a bit? There is a big logjam coming at defense. Not a terrible problem to have but some trades will have to made.
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1 hour ago, hab29RETIRED said:
My order of preference is as follows:
1)Celebrini
2)Demidov
3)Lindstrom
4)Parekh
5)Silayev
We aren’t getting the top three unless we win the draft. And we we are picking late for Levshhnov. Is take BPA, rather than position and Paekh looks like a Coffey or dman that will be real special. Man already screwed the pooch not taking Hughes (or at least Tkachuk), wouldn’t want to pass on Parekh if he is available.This is a D heavy draft, and last year was a forward heavy draft. I really wished we had taken Michkov or Leonard last year!
Those are my top 3 forwards and if they are gone, there is not an obvious one for me. Habs are almost assuredly drafting 5-7 (unless the lottery changes things). I hope with all the elite defense prospects available that Lindstrom falls to the Habs but my hopes never seem to work out.
Parekh and Beck will be fun to watch at the Memorial Cup. If you draft Parekh then I think you trade Mailloux in some sort of package deal for a forward as I don't know if there is room for 2 gifted offensive right defensemen but maybe you can keep both.
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27 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:
I agree with the spirit of your post but I wonder just how much better is Petterson ?
If Petersson is pegged as a 100 point guy and Suzuki hits 90 points, is that really that big of a difference?
Lets see what Suzuki can do with an entire season having two good wingers and a decent PP unit.
Fair point, I think most here would agree that Petterson purely from an offensive point of view is a step above Nick. I am not sure Nick will hit 90 pts but I would be very happy with 80.
You could have the discussion in this salary cap world of whether you would rather have Nick at 7.8m/year or Pettersson at 11.6? Considering Nick's strong 2 way play I could see arguments on both sides although in that big Stanley Cup playoff final having that truly elite offensive player is nice to have although neither McDavid or Matthews have carried a cup yet.
Glad Pettersson has signed in Vancouver and this argument is a little moot now.
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Dickinson is very impressive, there seems to be no weak point in his game. He really stood out watching some of the OHL playoff games last year and he keeps getting better. I think he has top pairing defensemen written all over him. I think he is similar in style to Kaiden Guhle, but a little bigger frame and stronger and will provide more offense.
Zayne Parekh is certainly an offensive dynamo, no other defensemen in this draft like him but Dickinson seems so well rounded.
Sam Dickinson | Sam Dickinson Profile | Sam Dickinson Scouting Report 2024 (mynhldraft.com)
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53 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:
8 years x $11.6 million AAV for Elias Pettersson
Done deal, Suzuki is going to put up more points next season than Petersson and Suzuki is also going to maintain EXCELLENT defensive play too - all for much less $
More points than Petersson is a little optimistic BUT if Nick can score 75-80 pts/year and we know he plays both ends of the ice then his contract of 7.8M/year is excellent value.
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3 hours ago, Helmethead said:
I would never, ever feel sorry for that franchise or their fan base.
Neither would I, that was said a little tongue in cheek. Heaven forbid we ever have to deal with the leaf fan base if they ever win a cup. That would be simply awful. I might have to move somewhere where they don't care about hockey.
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1 minute ago, Commandant said:
So we may have a true franchise level centre on our hands.
And he is locked in at a very affordable contract for a number of years.
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1 minute ago, hab29RETIRED said:
Given what Calgary got for Taney, I don’t see us getting a first.
One difference here is that Savard has another year on his contract. If Montreal retains 50% (as Calgary did with Tanev) then you have Savard for 2 playoff runs at a cheap price. Savard is worth more than Tanev IF the Habs retain 50%. How much more is open to debate.
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Previous deadline deals the Leafs have made have turned out awful, just a waste of future draft picks. Perhaps they just need to go with the core and see what happens.
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8 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
All told, then, it is much less likely that we can prise him away from Vancouver than it was three or four days ago.
I agree but it's nice to dream a bit since the Habs won't be in the playoffs.
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Sam Pollock would say the team that gets the
best player wins the trade. That might not apply all the time but it would in this case. Elite 25 year old centers don't come along every day.
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3 minutes ago, TurdBurglar said:
I don’t think Guhle and Caufield for Pettersson is a fair trade. Vancouver would definitely have to sweeten the pot some to get that to work.
Really, I think the Habs do that in a hearbeat. Pettersson and Suzuki as your #1 and #2 centers. Yikes!!
Of course they would need to find some wingers to play with them but that would the strongest the Habs would be down the middle in a long long long time.
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6 minutes ago, DON said:
Come on Leafs, empty the tank! You got picks left.
Those trades can really come back to bite you. The Leafs gave up a 1st and a 4th for Nick Foligno 3 years ago. How did that turn out? Foligno played a total of 7 regular season games and 4 playoff games amassing a total of ZERO goals and 5 assists. I almost felt bad for the Leafs. Almost.
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24 minutes ago, GHT120 said:
If they were SERIOUS about improving their team for this season they could offer this year or 2026 first, or dangle Nicholas Robertson, Knies, Fraser Minten or Easton Cowan ... to re-purpose a classic, you can't get silk purses by offering sow's ears.
They could offer a 1st from another year or one of their top prospects. And if that guaranteed winning a cup I am sure they would do it in a heartbeat. But a GM also has to think about the future and the Leafs have traded away so many picks that I don't blame Treliving for being a little cautious.
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1 hour ago, GHT120 said:
6th in TOI amongst regular Ducks-D ... Leafs going C-H-E-A-P to "improve" their defence corps.
They don't have much choice unless they want to trade a 1st round pick and their 1st rounder from 25 is already gone. No 2nd round picks to trade.
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1 hour ago, GHT120 said:
Hopefully some other GM believes this will last ... because I don't.
You don't believe Armia is finally reaching his potential? How skeptical. LOL
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9 minutes ago, dlbalr said:
So this is one of those 'entirely out of context' reports. Here's what LeBrun actually said (emphasis mine):
It's not a 1st, a young player, and multiple picks, the reported asking price is one of the three. Basically, the anticipated value is that of a first-round pick, not a smorgasbord of valuable picks and a young player.
Yes, it was poorly worded, in the article where I took this it clarified what they meant and indicated the same quote you mentioned. The headline was just poorly worded.
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34 minutes ago, TurdBurglar said:
Sounds like Vancouver is entertaining the idea of trading Pettersson as extension talks have stalled. They still hope they can resign him. The rumors have it, IF they do in fact trade him, they will be looking to bring in players with term.
If he is in fact being traded, wouldn't offering Suzuki+ for Pettersson be a good idea? He's an upgrade offensively, Suzuki is having a career year, and Pettersson's value isn't has high as it should be because of the need to trade him. Vancouver will be looking for a replacement at center, and probably more. I don't see a scenario where it would happen without Caufield/Suzuki going the other way, with emphasis on replacing Pettersson at center. I have no idea the the + would entail.
Just tossing out the idea here.
There is logic in entertaining a trade. Pettersson is elite, no doubt about that and it would make sense Vancouver would ask for Suzuki plus and rightly so. Elite centers don't grow on trees.
One factor to consider is that Suzuki is signed to a pretty favourable long term contract. If he delivers 75-80 points a year, plays a strong 2 way game than 7.8M/year is a very good contract for the Habs especially with the cap going up. Pettersson will be demanding Nylander type money (11M plus ) and rightly so. He is in a great bargaining position.
A lot to consider, how much the plus would be for the Habs and how much they would have to pay him. Apparently they have had talks with Carolina. Vancouver could take KK back, he certainly has term. LOL
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I agree with the price, if you don't get it then wait until next year.
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Leafs get Lybushkin for a 3rd and a 6th. In the 2025 draft the Leafs don't have a pick until the 5th round, must be exciting for their scouts.
Toronto Maple Leafs acquire D Ilya Lyubushkin from Anaheim Ducks for third-round pick | TSN
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6 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Sorry to talk about Van so much, but I was very interested to note that, amidst much speculation of who the Canucks might go after now that Tanev is off the board, I haven't heard Savard's name come up once - even though he seems like a perfect fit for them 🤷♂️
I agree and not surprised. A couple days ago Savard wasn't even on the top 50 list on TSN's trade bait board. Now he is at 49 with Tanev gone. A RD for Columbus, Andrew Peeke is at 36?? Who the heck is Andrew Peeke??
I guess the brain trust at TSN in Toronto doesn't think Savard is worth talking about so the fans don't think he exists.
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20 minutes ago, GHT120 said:
OR ... they place a higher value on Grushnikov than most seem to on here.
That is a good point, he was a 2nd round pick and still only 20. The Flames seem high on him and most here don't know much about him. So basically the Flames got 2 x 2nd round picks and a 3rd for Tanev and retaining salary for the rest of this year. Not a bad haul.
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And if we can get an elite forward or two in the draft then this will be a fun team to watch for a number of years.