GHT120
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Just now, Trizzak said:
Mete was so soft on that third goal that I thought I was watching a Charmin commercial.
His strength is excellent skating ... but his weakness is a lack of strength/physicality ... that was a play that highlighted the latter
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48 minutes ago, Commandant said:
If Gally comes out, Hudon goes in I think. Just cause of all the goals he scored in the AHL this year.
I heard TSN690 guys mention they saw Poehling in the pre-game skate ... hence my comment ... not certain if Hudon was dressed (didn't hear was or not)
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1 minute ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Can I also ask: am I the only one who hates when announcers use a player's first name all the time? Crosby is "Sid"...Malkin is "Gino"...Price is "Carey." What is Hughson trying to say, that these are his drinking buddies? PISS OFF and act like a professional announcer please
ONE of the reasons I watch in French
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Galchenyuk comes back to haunt the Habs (as he is how the Pens got Zucker)
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14 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Gally definitely hurting
Gally likely contributes more at 80-90% than Poehling (next logical addition since Evans is already in) would at 100% ... not in the same role, but overall ... but it Gally leaves (especially early) then 20/20 hindsight may judge CJ harshly
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Interesting to note that the Predators 3rd pairing in the play-in round is former Habs Yannick Weber and Jared Tinordi ... both are around 11 minutes at 5-on-5 but Jared is getting 2nd PK pairing time (2:18) with Roman Josi ... kudos to Tinodi for sticking it out for 3.5 AHL seasons post-Laval before getting called up by the Preds and carving out a role for himself.
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Hockey 30 (***NOT*** the most reliable source, but this at least has logic) suggesting that Cole Caufileld is exploring the possibility of playing with Sault Ste-Marie (who hold his rights) if there are any issues with the NCAA hockey season ... the Greyhounds are in the bidding for the 2021 Memorial Cup (assuming its held) ... in this scenario he could also try to get the Soo to trade him if there was somewhere else he preferred ...
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3 hours ago, tomh009 said:
Julien is holding his cards close to his chest.
TSN690 guys put that under a microscope to try and figure out if CJ was signalling there would be changes but didn't want to tip off the Pens ... or had no changes planned but was messing with the Pens ... or really hadn't made up his mind.
There is always the possibility that someone may be unable to play and force a change.
EDIT: Mentioned last game that Gallagher left briefly ... this from Eric Engels
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15 hours ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said:
i think the point is... this is a round 1 game 2 thread not a how do we rebuild the team moving forward thread and the enjoyment of getting game analysis and thoughs opinion about the game and playoff round are ruined by the constant blow it up brigade.
Take your thoughts about a rebuild/ retool and mention them in the proper thread and im sure at some point a response will be forthcoming. in this one you can talk speak to current events.
Fair enough ... for myself and everyone who initiated and then responded to the digression
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15 hours ago, dlbalr said:
A quick note on the schedule - expect the league to announce tomorrow/early Thursday that Game 4 of this series will be an afternoon start - likely 4 PM EST. Game 5, if necessary, would likely be an 8 PM start.
Interesting ... thought they were focusing on having the seeding round-robin games for the afternoons, in part because the regular season O/T format provides more confidence for the next game to be close to on time.
Guess 4 and 5 being back-to-back they want to give a bit more time between games?
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15 hours ago, tomh009 said:
That's it. I doubt they can make the finances work without fans. Very few teams have deep-pocketed owners that are willing to fund a season without fans.
They ***MAY*** have to look at any and all means to reduce operating expenses ... for example ... reduced schedule, an even heavier "local" focus on scheduling and maybe even shuttering (for the one season) the more remote/isolated teams (i.e., Manitoba Moose, Colorado Eagles, San Antonio Rampage and Texas Stars) to reduce travel costs ... and then seek support, beyond salaries, from the NHL (i.e., the league and teams collectively) ... the NHL BoG would have to decide how important it is to have the AHL playing is for the NHL clubs.
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1 minute ago, tomh009 said:
Yes. But the point is that just because Weal isn't producing on PP doesn't mean he should be sitting in the press box.
Only suggested that the logical choice ***IF*** Evans comes in seems to be the least used player 5-on-5, namely Weise ... and if not Weise the logical alternative w/b Weal ... didn't mean to offend you
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20 minutes ago, tomh009 said:
Then again, neither is anyone else producing on PP! Crosby has the only PP goal in the series so far, does he not?
True, but comment was in the specific context of who would go out if Evans came in.
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17 minutes ago, Commandant said:
... I think Domi has played well. He's been in Crosby's face alot, pissing him off and pushing him around ...
He can have that effect on people ... might be an idea to have Domi out against Crosby more ... he could take Tartar's place, if Danault is to stay on Crosby, or perhaps push Drouin down to KK's line and play Domi-Suzuki-Armia against the Crosby line
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14 minutes ago, xXx..CK..xXx said:
It’s weird because when it was announced that Domi would be cleared to play, it was supposed to be a fairly big deal for him and our team. I didn’t expect him to be a fourth liner.My thoughts have been conflicting and irrational when it comes to him being on the 4th line.
My first thought was that perhaps he had been sheltered from the team due to his diabetes and hadn’t practiced with them much. Perhaps they were trying to wait for him to catch up to the rest of the team.
My second thought was that I didn’t mind having 4 lines with offensive players.
My final thought which I had just now, is that Julien did the same thing with Galchenyuk. There seemed to be more of an uproar then but with comments like yours beginning to sprout, perhaps fans are becoming more impatient with Julien than they realize.
Think the issue with Domi is twofold ... (a) the habs see Suzuki and KK as centres going forward and Danault wasn't going to get moved ... (b) Domi doesn't like playing on the wing (he was clearly unhappy when it happened earlier this season) ... so CJ decided to try to "roll 4 scoring lines" even though Weise and Weal are hardly "scorers"
I hope and expect that Max may be moved up to LW on one of the top three lines ... and Evans brought in to centre the 4th line ... Weise (6:05 5-on-5) seems the logical player to drop but Weal only had 6:03 TOI 5-on-5 and he certainly isn't producing much in his 1:15 of PP time ...
Agree fans are becoming impatient with Julien but in fairness, he can only work wit the resources that Bergevin provides
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3 minutes ago, xXx..CK..xXx said:
What I am saying is that those who consistently come on a Habs fan board and put down the team and wish for them to lose are nothing more than trolls. You are not the only one with those viewpoints so it is not a direct comment towards you. If you happen to fit into that bracket, so be it.
So anyone who disagrees with you and prefers an alternate means to develop the team rather than just try to win now is a troll ... thanks for the clarification ... and since you described a troll as pretty much exactly what I was saying I think it is fair to say you called me a troll
6 minutes ago, xXx..CK..xXx said:You can call it a fan board, but we still are the people who represent the fan base, who attend games, and want the Habs to win now.
The posters do represent a SEGMENT of the fanbase and while all want the team to win the issue is that "now" means only short-term thinking and no serious long-term planning
10 minutes ago, xXx..CK..xXx said:I am not hoping for the best blindly but I am certainly not hoping for the worst.
Our goal is to go as far as we can with what we have.Neither am I ... IMO the worst is what we have generally lived for 27 years ... (win with what we have, wash/rinse/repeat) ... having a team only able to almost making the playoffs and drafting mid-teens, or losing in the first round and drafting late teens/early-20s ... nowhere near a Cup but nowhere near getting elite players ... the two #3s did not come from tanking, they came from a team playing down to its worst all on its own ... not tanking ... there was no planning involved, targeting the strongest drafts or generational players
18 minutes ago, xXx..CK..xXx said:The reason we won’t go all the way is because we were sellers at the deadline.
Because they traded Thompson, Peca, Cousins, Kovalchuk and Scandella?
Because they didn't trade picks and prospects for players that rarely if ever take a team deep let alone to a Cup?
28 minutes ago, xXx..CK..xXx said:This doesn’t mean we should try to lose.
Never said THIS team should try to lose ... players never will do that ... just that my prefernce is for them to lose ... there is a clear difference unless you don't want to see it.
30 minutes ago, xXx..CK..xXx said:This doesn’t make the negative tankist any smarter than someone who wants the team to win. This just makes the negative tankist more negative, or a troll who likes seeing the reaction of dare I say normal fans who actually want their team to win games.
I am sad that you cannot see the distinction between a difference in opinion and my somehow either being a BAD FAN or not a fan
But we will never agree so how about we just leave each other alone on the topics of what is a good fan and what is the right way to build a team
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7 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said:
Suzuki May be able to play the quarterback role. But I’d prefer getting a traditional QB man and not just someone who blast it like Weber. With both Subban and Weber the other team has always known the shot was coming and is the go to option. When healthy , Markov could thread it in for the tap in, setup someone in the slot, setup the blast or fire it himself.
right now it’s the blast from Weber that is the only chance for scoring.
Agree variety is needed ... I see Suzuki as hopefully filling the Kovalev "half-boards" role which IMO is sort of a co-QB to the "Markov at the point" QB role, but a little more directly offensive as well
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10 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said:
... Hell we aren’t even in the playoffs now - were in this play-in thing to secure tv revenues.
Exactly ... Chicago and Montreal were included primarily for their TV markets
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26 minutes ago, Commandant said:
They played mainly the second period and then danault was put back on the line in the third.
Mixing the lines didnt work.
I think domi needs to go to.the wing though. Not cause hes playing badly, but because we need his offence further up the lineup. Id sit weise. Bring in evans to centre the 4th.
Domi - Suzuki - Armia
Drouin - Kotkaniemi - Lehkonen
Byron - Evans - Weal
Like the Evans move ... but may be time to do more than just shuffle the bottom 3 lines ... for example, moving Suzuki to centre with Tartar and Gallagher might optimize the pure skill of that line while Danault's style would (IMO) mix well with Domi and Armia and produce offence in a different way ... I also would flip Byron and Lehkonen ... I've lost faith in Artturi scoring many goals
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1 minute ago, xXx..CK..xXx said:
No, chirping your own players on a consistent basis are for negative fans.
I can’t say that you’re not a Habs fan because I do not know you, but there is no version of fandom that leads one to hope their team loses. We just had a 3rd overall pick.
Once we get a 1st, 2nd, 3rd overall pick it is understandable to get excited. Clamoring for it while we still are in a playoff hunt (even though we like won’t win a cup) is no recipe for success in any which way.
If we get the 9th pick this year, “fans” will be asking for us to tank again in a year or two once again. It’s not a method that works. The dominos will always fall as they should.
Say it once, that’s fine. Say it over and over and over again regardless of wins or losses and one becomes a troll.
Someone who takes my enjoyment away from winning a game due to comments like “it’s better for us to lose” are considered trolls to me. If you already understand that the players and coaches are going to give it their all, then continue to state that we should try and lose, that is trolling. It is never the path that the organization will actually take. Therefore, the discussion leads to a dead end.
Well, we fundamentally disagree on a few things ... the way forward ... whether fans can be honestly negative about their team and what constitutes a troll ... and I doubt we will ever agree on those things.
I have been a Habs fan since Toe Blake's last Cup (68/69) ... I was a "stay positive", "hope for the best" and "always try to win now" guy until about 18-24 months ago ... I then got fed up with mediocrity and lost faith in MB's ability to make the Habs a contender ... when Bergevin traded for Weber it (IMO) the Habs should have been "all-in" mode to try to win a Cup ... but he tinkered and "built through the drat" ... now Price and Weber are 33 and 35 heading into 20/21 and the Habs are still lacking several pieces
As for taking away your enjoyment ... you have chosen to give me and others far too much influence on you ... and you are making your definition of a "troll" VERY personal to you ... IMO a troll comes on a team site with the sole intent to belittle the team and annoy the fan group as a whole ... I am not saying you shouldn't enjoy the wins if you choose (but hope you don't allow losses to distress you) ... I am just expressing my views on what is best for the team as I want them to win a Cup as soon as possible ... as I am absolutely certain you do as well ... I just see moderate short-term success as the least likely way to get to that Cup status.
We can agree to disagree ... but continue to call me a troll and IMO you are just trolling me
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29 minutes ago, DON said:
3 and 4 years ago Habs PP was near or in top ten...the Markov influence?
20 minutes ago, sbhatt said:The lack of a blueline quarterback has hurt us for sure.
Back in his prime (05/06 thru 09/10) Markov led the best PP in the NHL (21.3%), although in those years the team also had Kovalev as a co-QB on the right boards ... but AM's last five seasons (12/13 thru 16/17) the habs were 22nd in the NHL (17.9%)
While I completely agree that the lack of a PP-QB is a major problem, I think either the "system" is not optimizing the resources or not getting the players to do follow the system (only they know for certain) ... OR, maybe both ... Suzuki shows promise in the "Kovalev" role ... maybe the Habs need to look for a guy to "hide" on the 3rd pairing/4th line but who can still QB a PP
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2 hours ago, sbhatt said:
True. Our problem is the inability of our top 6 to score, not 4th line tweaks. Drouin being in that top 6 is the most glaring problem I have seen in these first 2 games: he has contributed absolutely nothing. His errant passes and suspect decision making have done as much to help the Penguins PK as any PIttsburgh player has.
2 hours ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said:I believe the 3rd and 4th lines play an absolutely huge role in the success of a playoff run. NO team has won a cup or made a run with just a top 6 and not huge contributions form the bottom 6.
I agree with both of you ... responsibility for the Habs lack of offence has to be primarily assigned to the top 6/top4 players ... but in the playoffs, the 3rd/4th lines and 3rd pairing D are also hugely important as in many cases the top 6/top 4 for each side balance out and those lower-ranked players make the difference.
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2 hours ago, xXx..CK..xXx said:
People who are discussing tanking and draft picks right now are essentially trolls ...
No, we are Canadiens fans with a different vision for how to make the Habs a Cup contender ... in my case, it is only in the last 18-24 months that I have lost my optimism and become frustrated with the "what can we do for now" approach
2 hours ago, xXx..CK..xXx said:... Instead we have people bashing Drouin, Weise, Ouellete, etc. ...
It is in the nature of fans to focus on their own team ... chirping the other team is for the ice, not the fan boards
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2 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Yeah, the Habs have had 3 #3 overall picks on the roster recently: Galy, KK, and Drouin. That's the equivalent of three tank jobs right there. I don't see any new banners in the rafters, though... You don't need to tank. You need elite scouting and player development. Look at Boston.
You need to "tank" in the right seasons ... in the right seasons #3 could yield, for example, Miro Heiskanen, Pierre-Luc Dubois, Leon Draisaitl, Jonathan Huberdeau, Matt Duchene or Jonathan Toews.
But the "scouting" aspect is a HUGE point ... I would also add in development as too many players never seemed to progress from whet they were when drafted.
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True ... any blame for MB falls in not providing better players from which CJ could choose