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    Permanent Trade Proposal Thread

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    57 minutes ago, dlbalr said:

    If the idea is to eventually do a buyout, that's a lot of dead money (even at 1/3) to eat for a late first-round pick. 

     

    26 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

    Yes, is 12 years x 835,000/yr of dead cap space worth a pick in the 26 - 32 range?  I just don't see Carolina giving up on him yet. He has had a brutal year though, after a hot start he has basically 13 points in his last 60 games. It sure went downhill fast for him. Not sure what's going on, his confidence must be shot right now. 

    KK had a career year last season ... the idea (I-M-O) would be to give it a year and see what MSL can do with him ... *** IF *** necessary, a buyout next June would be 10 years, with 7 @ $841,333 but years 3,4&5 would be $461,333; right where an extra $380K could prove useful.

     

    The 'Canes have $30.7M to fill out 9-10 roster spots next season ... but they may want to re-sign Guentzel (especially if they have a good playoff run), their 2nd (Skjei), 3rd (Slavin) and 6th (Chatfield) leading TOI defencemen are UFAs, up-front, their #2(Jarvis) and #4 (Necas) scorers are RFAs and #6 (Teravainen) is a UFA ... that $30.7 may not go as far as one might think ... perhaps the proposal could be modified/expanded and bring one of the RFAs, or one of their young NCAA forwards and a lesser pick into a deal.

    GAME # 72 Habs vs Flyers March 28 2024 7:00pm est

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    10 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

    Based on the Sportsnet recap - which includes hilariously “homer” commentary by the Flyers broadcasting crew - this seems to have been a solid win. Too bad they couldn’t get Primeau a shutout. He seems to just keep rolling along, eh? 

    Montembeault  AND  Primeau in Prague/Ostrava come May?

     

     

    GAME # 72 Habs vs Flyers March 28 2024 7:00pm est

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    9 hours ago, Sir_Boagalott said:

    I tend to disagree with that because Umberger wrecked the Habs in the 3rd round once and they won in the 1st rnd in the Covid playin year.  I believe there is another series with Carter and Richards and possibly 1 more too.  The Habs worst playoff record this century is against what team? 

    I think by "quiet" he meant in terms of what we old-timers remember form the BBBs and Chelios vs. Hextall.

    2024 NHL Entry Draft

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    7 hours ago, Sir_Boagalott said:

    The Habs haven't used up any of their 2 move ups in 5 years.  The legalese on that rule is the moving up.  The Habs were last place and got 1st overall so they didnt move up at all when they got Slaf.  I swear I have previously read the wording of that rule and it was linked to the 1st and 2nd OA picks, but apparently it ins't anymore.  No team is allowed to move up more than twice in 5 years.  

    Two Top 7-8 picks, although a Powerball-ish longshot, could be worth a 5-year "ban" to accelerate the rebuild ... two "birds in the hand" are better than two future, potential "lottery wins in the bush".

    GAME # 72 Habs vs Flyers March 28 2024 7:00pm est

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    38 minutes ago, xXx..CK..xXx said:

    Struble is a solid player. Having a strong game but not the first time I’ve liked what I’ve seen from him. 

    Hope other teams like him too ... he is likely HuGo's preferred trade bait this summer (***if*** a D is traded) with Matheson, Guhle, and Xhekaj ahead of him currently (on the left-side), and the "great offensive hope" Hutson joining the organization soon ... by next summer they may be willing to part with Matheson if the youngsters progress ... they will also have a better idea of where/if Struble, Bogdan Konyushkov and Adam Engstrom fit into the mix for 25/26 and beyond (assuming none are traded) ... a further complication is the possibility that they take another D in a defenceman deep draft in June.

     

    EDIT (1): clarified above that I was talking about the LHD
    EDIT (2): Forgot Harris, he is likely (I-M-O) in a dead heat with Struble

    EDIT (3): Forgot that Bogdan Konyushkov is a RHD

     

    BAD night for the old brain cells

    Non-Rocket Habs Prospect tracker

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    7 hours ago, dlbalr said:

    Tuch is a player whose style is better for the pros than college.  They'd be crazy not to try to sign him.  He's a legitimate NHL prospect, albeit a low ceiling.

    My surprise with Tuch was more so with the "sign him soon" if they have any plan(s) for the contract slots before July 1st ... I agree he is a player who may well be better suited to the pros ... my guess is 3rd liner is his ceiling, solid 4th liner a decent likelihood.

    Non-Rocket Habs Prospect tracker

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    Journal de Montreal article on which draft picks the Habs will be signing:

     

    SOON:


    Adam Engstrom
    But may not make it to Laval this season, depending on how his SHL team (Rögle) does in the playoffs

     

     

    Lane Hutson
    Even if BU makes it to the Championship game, Hutson could sign and play in one or both of the final two games of the season with the Habs. 

     

     

    Luke Tuch
    This one surprises me slightly in that his offensive progression has been modest but he his size/physicality may translate well to the pros, albeit in a grinder role, that the Habs may see as a need.

     

    SOON... or ... NEXT SEASON (i.e., not using a 23/24 contract slot)
    The contract slot could a factor to allow freedom to make trades before July 1st ... the Habs currently have 5 available ... for that reason, I would slide Tuch into this category ... if Engstrom can't join Laval for their playoff run/playoffs I wudl slide him in this group as well.


    Oliver Kapanen
    Habs could wait until June 2025, but his production as a 20-yr-old in a mens league has been solid (tied for 50th in scoring), he has also shown a strong all-round game ... he has had a strong playoff thus far (9pts, 4g in 6 games) ... but another year in the SM-liiga might fit both his and the organization's needs.
     

    MAYBE

     

    Cédrick Guindon
    Habs have until June 1st to sign him or lose his rights ... his stats didn't take a big jump from his draft year and have now regressed slightly from last year ... may be a candidate for an AHL contact.

     

    Jared Davidson
    Also needs to be signed by June 1st ... his occasional flashes in Laval this season may not be enough for an NHL contract but they may extend another AHL offer.

     

    Miguël Tourigny
    Another June 1st deadline ... spent the season in Trois Rivieres ... likely at most an AHL contract

     

    LIKELY BYE-BYE-BYE

     

    Petteri Nurmi
    Another June 1st deadline ... 2022 7th rounder (194th) 

     

    Blake Biondi
    As an NCAA player, Habs have until August 15th to sign him ... 2020 4th rounder (109th) out of high-school ... his second/sophomore season was promising, but his production has regressed ... last season he played through a left shoulder injury until mid-season when a right-shoulder injury ended his year and he had surgery on both ... slight uptake in production this season ... how much was recovery from the surgeries a factor ... but with the Habs depth in D-prospects there seems little urgency to sign him ... but RHD depth might be a factor in offering an AHL contract

     

     

    NOTE: Italicized text taken from Journal article, non-italicized my comments

    2024 NHL Entry Draft

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    8 minutes ago, dlbalr said:

    I'd have a hard time thinking they'd penalize a team who doesn't have their own draft pick further by counting it as one of the two improvements for the team who didn't have it.  That's just rubbing it in.  That said, I don't think I've seen the wording of the rule either so I suppose I can't be sure on that one.

    My  GUESS  is that with a trade involving an unconditional pick it would count against the Habs as the pick transferred when the trade was registered ... but if the Habs had the option of the Jets' 2024 or 2025 pick it might not as the pick might still "legally" be Winnipeg's until the Habs make the decision to use it and likely therefore it still belonged to Winnipeg at the time of the lottery.

    Where are they now? News on past Habs prospects and players

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    29 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

    He will likely be for the rest of his contract what he is this year, a hard working, hard driving slow right winger who will give everything he has and scored 8-12 goals a year, maybe 15 in a good year. 

    And that likley at most ... he could get slower and be more injury prone from the wear & tear to which he has subjected his body over his career.

    2024 NHL Entry Draft

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    6 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

    Wouldn't it be nice if Winnipeg lost their last 10 games, slipped out of a playoff spot, won the draft lottery, moved up 10 spots and then we draft 6 and 7?  Is that too much to hope for? 

    Not if you also buy lottery tickets.

    Where are they now? News on past Habs prospects and players

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    28 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

    Gallagher for KK at 50% retained?

     

    Will never happen of course but I would bite

    Who is retaining?

     

    Not interested in KK at, effectively, $8.075 ($4.82+$3.25) for three seasons, but Carolina might take Gallagher at $3.25, saving $1.57M over KK.

     

    Now, if KK is bought out AND Dvorak gets moved, I could accept KK and Evans fighting it out for NEXT season's 3C/4C spots.

    Non-Rocket Habs Prospect tracker

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    5 minutes ago, DON said:

    Florian is just 19, assume he will play 1 more year in the OHL, wont he?

    I expect he will go back if not signed ... but I'm certain he would rather get a contract than play as an over-ager ... unless he has another significant jump in production (say, at least 20+ points) as an OHL over-ager it likely doesn't add to his odds of getting signed.

    Where are they now? News on past Habs prospects and players

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    5 minutes ago, TurdBurglar said:

    I heard or read somewhere, and I can't remember where, that Carolina may entertain the idea of buying out KK.  It would be a crazy buyout though, 6 more years @ $4.8m on his current deal.  It would save Carolina $4m per season for the contract duration and cost about $850k for 6 more years after that, according to capfriendly

    With the salary cap increasing next season and expected to continue (to whatever degree) in years to come it may be a viable option ... I also expect that if the buyout happens, more than a few teams would offer him a bury-able one, maybe two, year contract to prove the 'Canes bailed too soon ... I-M-O his issues are between the ears, not below the neck.

    2023-24 Montreal Canadiens Discussion Thread

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    3 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

    Josh Anderson…even I gave up defending him months ago. He’s untradeable, so the best we can hope for is that he hits “reboot,” changes his summer regimen to ensure peak fitness, and gets his mojo back next season.

    On TSN690 this morning Marc Denis admitted (starting around 9:05 mark) that he has accepted that Josh Anderson is no longer a top 6 offensive forward, and that he is effective when he brings energy/aggressiveness but that he doesn't do that consistently ... he could get back to being a 20 goal and be a useful third line player.

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