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    Time for Gainey to go

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    People can list the names of the NCAA players other teams have drafted that have panned out all they want. Ask the Kings if drafting Cammy worked out for them? They can also say all they want aboot Russian no shows. The list of elite young Russians playing in the NHL is bigger than the list of elite young NCAA alumni.

    If I were the Molsons I would be asking Bob why the majority of the Habs 1st, 2nd and 3rd rnd picks all off to US colleges for 4 years.

    Oh, and I forgot, drafting the Best player available is garbage. That needs to be stopped. The Habs need to draft the best player available for position that they need filled. I'm sick of them drafting so many 5'-10-6' 180-195 lbs guys because they were BPA when there were bigger larger guys drafted slightly after them who the Habs actually could have used because they arent like all the 5'-10-6' 180-195 lbs prospect in Hamilton. Just wait until the BPA is a G and they draft him.

    Bobs previous refusal of long term contracts has helped screw the Habs in drafting aswell, but now with CGG the problem might have been alleviated a bit, but it still exists because he has 1 entire line locked in long term. If Bob had locked in some players with long term contracts than they could draft knowing those positions are filled for the next X years and then draft players for the positions that arent locked in long term. The easiest way to do this is lock in 3 players in the same position. ex Pitts, C, Malkin, Crosby, Staal, they dont need to draft a C for at least 3 years so they can target other positions that they arent as strong in. The way Bob drafts and signs contracts the Habs will never have this luxury. I kow the Habs wont get 3 elite C like Pitts, but they could still pick 3 C's (or any other position) they are happy with and commit to them so they can target other positions.

    3/4 of the prospect players drafted and signed from europe this year were C. Also, before fisher our prospects were very deep at wing and we went for lots of defense for 3 years. Now it is Centre. I would waiger that if there isn't a potential elite centre available next year, he will go after wingers again, because our good depth at wing is depleted.

    Carey Price

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    I totally understand what you are saying and what a lot of people say. I have a Price jersey and t-shirt. What I'm saying is that he changes when he is not playing well. Yesterday he was overcommitting and flopping like crazy. I just hope he can grow and learn to shake off a bad goal.

    GDT: Rockford vs Hamilton

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    Final Score was 3-0 Bulldogs. :clap: Sanford with the shutout. :clap:

    All 3 goals were scored in the 3rd period...

    1.Ryan White (Wyman, Bergeron)

    2.Pyatt

    3.Conboy (White, Bergeron)

    Bergeron IS pretty close to game-shape. I also would not be too surprised to see him called up to Montreal really, really soon. He was a speedy little skater out on the ice and took the receiving end of a few good checks into the corners. There was that horrible giveaway mentioned earlier, but I think that Bergy did a pretty good job out there assisting on two of the three Bulldogs goals.

    Kostitsyn, on the other hand, was useless in this game. Although....he did receive a good loud round of Booooooooos during the player introductions! :lol:

    Pyatt could be another option fro the fourth line.

    Carey Price

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    I am seriously concerned about Price. I was hoping that he would be insulated by Martins's defensive/posession game, but I am worried that he is too emotional for this game. He hides it well, but he crashes hard when he has a bad game.

    Time for Gainey to go

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    Posted · Edited by BCHabnut

    I would take Metropolit over Begin any day. I was going to right a long response, but PMAC pretty much summed it up. We laughed when Ryder and Streit were signed. We ALL thought Streit was weak defensively and Ryder was given many chances and didn't cash in. If AK plays like he is now for the next two years, do you sign him for 4 years and 4 million? No. If he lights it up on the new team, do you hate the GM for not signing him? Well, we all will, but I don't think it's a reason to fire him.

    There is a theme to the way Bob Gainey does business, and a flaw which I think he needs to reassess. Bob Gainey will not tolerate players that negatively affect the culture of the team. Ribiero is a prime example. He gave him away for a bag of pucks, because he was affecting the culture in the dressing room. He should have waited. Same with Grabs. These guys are great players and should have brought more in the way of assets. SK affects the culture...down you go. It is the one thing that I wish he could solve in a better way. Ribs would be a great 1st C right now, and it really hurts to think that we are paying Gomez that money when Ribiero would probably be in the 5 million range.

    I think the key issue with the Gainey regime is as CC says. Player developement. Where are all the stars? First liners and top 4 Defensemen. Hopefully Price is one of them, but I am certainly not convinced. I believe he doesn't have the head for the game. Someone that I thought was a cool fish, turned out to be a scared pot head kid!

    My firing gage will be playoff performance. They have to make and play well in the playoffs.

    Habs @ Oilers | Game Thread

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    Metro needs to come back too. Metro Laraque and chipchura/Pyatt. I would send Stewart down if he can't pick it up. That just leaves a huge caping hole on both sides of Plex (who I might add has been our second best forward next to Gionta!) AK, SK, Lats, Maxpac... so many options, but none of the bastards will step up. Blechh

    Habs @ Oilers | Game Thread

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    I am seriously worried about this team. We have a good first line. A third line that can be okay. Our 2nd line is useless. Our 4th line is brutal. Yes, it hurts that we are missing Markov, but I don't think Markov is enough to turn this team from losers to winners.

    Lats, AK, Dags, Chips, etc... I just don't see them lighting up the NHL anytime soon. For all the depth on the farm, why can't we get one of these guys to be a real top 6 guy? Is it bad drafting? Bad development? Too much booze in Montreal?

    I sure hope they get it together, but I don't think we have the horses...

    I thought Pyatt had a great camp. I could see him on the fourth line. I miss Dandenault on the fourth.

    Habs @ Oilers | Game Thread

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    That was our second best game of the year as a team. Calgary was the best. Bulin was awesome. Price was OK. Shoulda had the Commrie goal. I'm a little worried that he may be a little too mental for this game. I hope I'm wrong cuz the signs of a fantastic goalie are there. Gionta is awesome. He is so consistent on that puck. Paccioretty had a good game tonight. Chipchura does not look good out there. Plek needs a winger that cares. AK plays like he was sent down, not his little bro. Trade them as a package for another lunchbox top 6. I love Gio, Gomez and Cammeleri right now. They never give up. That is something I've only seen out of Koivu in the last 10 years, as far as top 6 guys on our team. I like the Weekes reference to Gionta. Something like put down your tape when you measure Gionta, because his heart is bigger than his body.

    Hey Martin, way to bench Mara for sticking up for his team. WTF man! That was a high hit and was deserving of that response. From a distance it looked like an elbow, and that response is EXACTLY what I want to see when a player thinks his teammate was elbowed.

    Habs @ Canucks | Game Thread

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    Agreed. I don't remember ever seeing a team have so much trouble getting the damn puck out of their zone. Boy am I glad I didn't stay up to watch teh 3rd period....nd why is it this team can't seem to win a ######ing game out west. The Habs haven'T won in Vancouver since 2000 and haven't won in Calgary since 2002...pretty pathetic!

    No Kovalev to carry it out. No Markov.

    Permanent Rumour Thread

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    look at what happened to the guys that walked..... other than kovy and komi they all took salary cuts or they are not in the league. Just how good was that core? the only guys that got a raise are the 2 we would have kept, however, komi did not want to be a habs and kovy needs an agent. We have replaced them all and I say much to the betterment of the team. We are going to be a damned exciting team to watch imho. Now lets go watch some hockey and worry about all this shite at the end of the year when we are in parade. :ghg: :ghg: :ghg: :ghg: :ghg: :ghg:

    I'm confused. Are you agreeing with me or arguing? I agree that the team was bad last year, but icing a full team of rookies and hoping the cap dropped would be worse. I'm saying that the decisions Gainey made were somewhat radical, but sound from a business standpoint. Trying to keep lots of cap room for next year by only offering a bunch of 1 year contracts would have devasted the team as UFAs and RFAs would have even walked. All of this, just in case the cap drops.

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