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    Bergevin's contract will only be dealt with after the season

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    4 hours ago, Habsfan89 said:

    I think he has made it a better team 

    Anderson 

    Caufield 

    Toffoli 

    Hoffman 

    Dvorak 

    Suzuki 

     

    Much better talent then just 

    Pacioretty 

    Gallagher 

    Subban 

    That he got when taking over.

     

    The problem is they never look to add more depth and look at older vets replacements. 

     

    When they let Markov go, we have yet to find his replacement.

     

    Now with Weber most likely gone and Price in a few years we haven't look to draft their replacements. 

     

    This is what the team will be like once Price retire's, so get use to it. 

     

    Their is too much two way players and not enough Playmakers especially on the D side of things. 

    That’s it for ten years? Results? Same…

    Bergevin's contract will only be dealt with after the season

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    11 hours ago, Habsfan89 said:

    The ones that speak French do lol

     And there is the problem… like coaches we often limit the talent pool. 
     

    Bergevin has n9t made this a better team then what he inherited. In fact, it is a mess. Long standing positional issues with no solutions. Ten years of poor talent development… this team needs a shakeup or we will be a middling to bottom feeding team for another decade., toronto, tampa, and Boston have done a cut better job and that is just our division!!!!!

     

    if we want to hope for miracle runs every year we will get one once every 10 to 20 years… That is a loser attitude, imo. 
     

    are we building through the draft? Then why is our development so poor and we keep trading away young talent, losing them to offers, etc. are we a trading and free agent team? Then why do we suck at acquiring players this way? Pick a plan and get good at it. Instead, we are mediocre at best in all aspects…

    Bergevin's contract will only be dealt with after the season

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    19 hours ago, tomh009 said:

    Is your criterion for "success" the same as "won the cup"? Because the Habs did get within three games of that, even if they did fall short in the end.

     

    But by this criterion most NHL GMs are unsuccessful.

     

    6 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

    I won’t cry if he leaves, but he deserves credit for a spectacular job during the 2020 offseason. His handiwork brought us directly to the Finals in 21. Other than that it’s been spotty to be sure. Formally, the jury is still out on this year, but obviously the early returns are not promising.

     

    The problem is, it’s easy to say “fire Bergevin,” because at this point he is competing with an abstraction, i.e., an impeccable hypothetical GM. It all depends on who his successor is.

    His overall body of work isn’t great. Last year the habs were lucky to be in an all Canadian Covid division and they still barely made it to the playoffs. Yes, they had a deep and surprising run but frankly I think that had more to do with some luck and a few key players “going for it hard” as maybe their last chance. We don’t even look like a playoff team.

     

    I don’t think you have to win the cup to be successful but building a strong team that is competing for it year over year and a deep farm is a better way to judge a GM. In that respect, he hasn’t impressed. The rumour is an offer was made and he rejected it. I think he expects a big pay raise and thinks last year showed him to be a top GM. He isn’t and molson shouldn’t give in.  

    2021 Entry Draft

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    On 7/25/2021 at 9:36 AM, Commandant said:

     

    I'm pretty happy with my career.  I'm a lawyer.  So I don't think I'll pursue much more. 

     

    That said, I co-own LWOS, and i started it looking to maybe get a case of beer a month out of the thoughts i previously wrote on hfboards and such for free. Its become a lot more than that, as last year i made from the site, around the same as what someone makes from a 40 hour per week Minimum wage job. Not bad for a side hustle. 

    Well your analysis is excellent so I will forgive you for being a lawyer. 😂😂😂

    2021 Entry Draft

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    12 minutes ago, johnnyhasbeen said:

    Not his girlfriend. Why was she on her knees in front of this hockey player? How come his judgement as a teen is so important and her's is not?

    She consented to a sexual act, not to be in his personal porno for his friends… she did nothing wrong.

     

    in fact, had she not reported him this behaviour probably would have gotten worse. Hopefully he actually changes.

     

    he might be a decent prospect but he asked not to be drafted.

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    STANLEY CUP FINAL - Game 5 - Tampa vs. Habs - 8 PM

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    On 7/11/2021 at 8:32 PM, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

     

    Oh, I agree the team needs to improve. They are clearly a “tough out” in the playoffs, but the challenge is to actually make the playoffs. And if we had had that elusive top-4 puck-moving D-man, it might have helped v.s. Tampa too.

     

    What I resist is the idea that Habs somehow flunked their way to the Finals or somehow didn’t “deserve” to get there. They did. They got monster goaltending and ground three teams (two of which are elite) into powder.


    absolutely… a team that ups their game that much deserves the run they had. I think too many people thought they would be easy to beat. They played well to their strengths in the playoffs, they just didn’t have an answer for Tampa..

     

    had the isles managed to knock off Tampa, I suspect the habs and isles would have been a game 7 toss up.

    STANLEY CUP FINAL - Game 5 - Tampa vs. Habs - 8 PM

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    1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

    If you make the Stanley Cup Finals, you deserve to be there. Full stop.

    True… it is also no guarantee of future success… remember Ottawa… lost in game seven, double overtime of conference final. They convinced themselves they were a player away from regular cup contender… they were not even close. Worse… the moves they made thinking they were set them back even further.

     

    the habs played great, but almost any team can put together a string of wins at the right time. It doesn’t negate the holes in the lineup.

     

    we definitely have some good young players and both Price and Weber showed they have a couple years left where they can elevate themselves. 
     

    we still need a skilled, defensively sound puck moving defenceman and another solid sniper.. 

     

    who knows where Drouin is or will be. Can he come back and be that sniper? Can he be traded for one? Is Gallagher fading to a third line energy guy or can he rebound. I know he was banged up but he has been declining for a while. Hopefully it is just injuries and he rebounds next year. 
     

    this team needs to improve as they are in a brutal division and it won’t be easy to make the playoffs next year. If they can pull that off, then the experience this year will do a lot to get them deep, as long as they avoid Tampa. I feel they have a mental edge against both Toronto and Boston.

    STANLEY CUP FINAL - Game 5 - Tampa vs. Habs - 8 PM

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    11 hours ago, tomh009 said:

    I reject your premise that the Habs only got to the finals because of the opposition's injuries and suspensions. Evans was also concussed, Ducharme couldn't be behind the bench, and many players were skating wounded. That's the way the playoffs go.

     

    I do believe that Bergevin's intent of building a team that can succeed in the playoffs has been largely successful. I don't have any illusions that we have a guaranteed SCG berth for the next few years, but I do think we have a team that can be a serious threat to win playoff rounds and not get knocked out immediately. Goaltending permitting, of course, but no team will succeed in playoffs without high-quality goaltending.


    while it was more then just the other teams injuries, they did have a very big impact as they allowed the Danault line to focus on their scoring line. Another big factor, until we hit Tampa was our fourth line was much better then the other teams. 
     

    it is hard to say if we would have gotten past Toronto if they were full strength. I think Toronto has a deep seeded ability to choke. 
     

    I also think this was about a team stepping up and playing over their heads… teams go on runs… the worse team in the league can put toGether a winning streak. The habs are not the first underdog that surprised a few teams and went far deeper then expected. History shows those teams don’t repeat the fest the next year. 
     

    I do think there are many positives. Playoff experience is huge and a deep run was very good for the kids. That will serve them well in the years to come. The danger is Bergevin thinking he has a top team and all he has to do is tinker with the fourth line, maybe find another 3rd pairing D. If we get three more years of that you can be sure to see very little playoff hockey.

     

    I honk we have at best two more years where Weber and Price can lift their games to that level. Bergevin needs to decide if he wants to go for it or not. If he does, he needs to get a real too puck. Icing defenceman and another gifted scorer who can still play In a defensive system.  

    STANLEY CUP FINAL - Game 5 - Tampa vs. Habs - 8 PM

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    4 hours ago, xXx..CK..xXx said:


    Yes. Yes, they are.

     

    Didn’t read the rest.


    your loss… 

     

    and no, they are not. They played over their heads and Price was awesome.. it was a very impressive run and I enjoyed it a lot. 
     

    They were not even close to Tampa. They might not even make the playoffs next year.

     

    This team isn’t a tweak away from a regular cup contender. There is much work still to be done. They do have some promising kids but they need more scoring and better D. 

    STANLEY CUP FINAL - Game 5 - Tampa vs. Habs - 8 PM

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    Thoughts…

     

    yes, usually Bettman compliments the losing team. He ignored the habs. 
     

    I too am a bit worried that management will assume this team is a real cup contender. They are not. As others have said, they need some defence improvements and some upgrades up front.

     

    I wonder about Gallagher. His style of play can lead to a rapid falloff in performance. He hasn’t been great all year and the injuRies are adding up. If we could get a great return I would be okay with losing him,  but only for a high return.

     

    depth… if all these players were so banged up, why were we not using some of the depth. Could Tatar or KK not replaced Gallagher? Maybe give tofolli a night or two off? Perry and Weber I get as there are no replacements for them.

     

    I also agree on the backup… Price did well because he was far more rested then in the past.

     

    I really look forward to seeing the kids take the next step… Suzuki and CC took some big steps. I hope Romanov gets more play time next season to develop.

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