Neech
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With those eyes, I don't thiink Ovechkin could tell the difference between one girl and hte other.
Yeah you could have stuck a mule there and he wouldn't have been able to tell the difference, but he would have a nasty surprise sooner or later. -
I do hope your instincts are right. That would be a steal. Even though reports are telling nothing is happening. I'm sure Gainey is very active as we speak.......something big will happen in a few weeks for the Habs.
Not the first time that we've been so certain of things going down...
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Yeah, I think Higgins' likely career potential is a 25-35 goal guy. He may get 40 once or twice. But I would be loathe to give him up, he really seems to be part of the nucleus of this team.
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I think Ryder and Emelin could be enough. I would be willing to add some of our second-tier prospects and picks but nothing that's too important to us.
I really doubt that Ryder and Emelin would be enough. They would want at least a 1st round pick along with that; a struggling mid-level player and a totally unproven prospect are not nearly enough to land an elite forward.
And I also doubt that Hossa would sign for 3 years, for one, and that he'd take 6 million per season. I bet he'd want at least a 5 year contract, in which case he may take 6 million per season but would probably want more. Spezza, Gomez and Drury all get about 7 million per year for 5-7 years, and Hossa would probably be gunning for a similar deal.
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That takes us down to Earth a bit. I was just starting to imagine a Montreal team with a top six like this
Kosty Plex Kovy
Hossa Koivu Higgins
Damn, that looks a lot like TWO first lines, for a team that hasn't had ONE in almost a decade. And then the kid line of Lat Laps Kosty can score as well, we'd be intimidating.
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Yes. Hossa as a rental, no thanks. Hossa as a long-term acquisition, 100% good idea...as long as you're not selling the farm. But I'd accept the need to part with a high-powered prospect/young player to swing that, for sure. (I too have a feeling Higgins will be the guy to go back, if this does go down. Damn, my heart says no, but my brain says that's fair return).
Yeah, I agree with that. I'm still not sure if I'd want to give up Higgins though, but it is better to get a good player than sit on your hands and wait for guys to develop.
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Good for Markov for mackin on the hotter girl.
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The sportsnet guys are hands down the biggest homers announcing today.
Our RDS guys would probably take the cake IMO, but it isn't as obvious because it's for the team we cheer for.
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We played well for most of this game and deserved the win, but the dumb penalties and mistakes almost cost us. We really handed the Sens the opportunities to get back in the game. But Huet came through today. On a few occasions he made a monster save that kept us in the lead. But it's still rolling the dice whenever he leaves his net (he put Bouillon in a bad position on the first goal but it was Francis's fault to not get rid of the puck). And I still can't say that I'm not nervous with him in goal protecting a one goal lead, although he did good tonight.
What can we say about our first line? They can pass with the best in the league, and can be a threat whenever they're on the ice. Great game for them again. The other lines were decent, none of them were dominated or dominating. The defense was nothing specail. But gawddamn we can't take two delay of game penalties in one game! And Koivu, geez, I think he needs to watch an instructional video on the rules of the game to knock it into his head what is a hook and what is not. It's not like the officials are just picking on him, he's being a dumbass, and he's our freakin captain. I'm glad he rode the pine for a while, Carbo has given him plenty of chances and we can't risk putting bad players on the ice in these important games.
I watched the game on Sportsnet for a change. The announcers were biased, that was to be expected, though probably not as much as the RDS guys. They made some bad comments about Kovalev on how he has shown up 'a few more times' this season compared to last season, whereas he's been our best player the whole way through. They also said that Latendresse had a reputation for being dirty and taking late hits, which is kind of exaggerated.
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A certain someone needs to drink a Saku beer before the game!
Maybe a Saku sake would be more lucky!
This certain someone is going to get WASTED.
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Edmonton is well under the cap and has piles of cheap young talent. If Penner turns out to be an elite power forward like say Bertuzzi before the incident then they will be laughing. A couple picks for a Bertuzzi is a steal. They took the gamble and now we will see if it pans out.
You also gotta remember that Edmonton needs high skilled talent to draw in not only investors but fans and other free agents. Kevin Lowe boldly stated that he is unwilling to accept mediocrity with these offer sheets and that is appealing to talented players.
This is just a rebuilding time, you know something that the leafs should have done atleast once in the last 40 years.
edit: I just found this on another site...
Lowe has gotten some 1st class talent to join his team through trades so other than getting Huet and Hamrlik I really don't see how much better Gainey has done.
I guess Lowe maxed out his intelligence in 2006, he did make some key moves that got that team into the playoffs and then they went on a crazy run.
But Penner turning into Bertuzzi is about as likely as saying whoever Anaheim drafts, if it's Doughty or Pietrangelo or someone else, will turn out to be a very good player and maybe better than Penner. And then there are the two other picks. Like I said, I doubt many GMs would go for that trade this year. Who knows what they'd do in the future, maybe Penner's game improves significantly, maybe Anaheim drafts an all-star.
And Penner's signing didn't change Edmonton's mediocrity. Yeah they're rebuilding now and they've been bad recently which has helped in getting young talent, but keeping top 5 picks is exactly what a rebuilding team should do (like the Leafs should have, I don't know why you brought them up because getting an RFA and giving up picks would be a terrible move for them). Edmonton has cap-space, but you don't just fill that as quickly as you can. You build from within and see which way the cap-space should be used. That's what Gainey has done, and although he's not perfect or the best in the league, he's definitely better than Lowe and you can look at our current situation to attest to that.
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Smyth wasn't worth that cash, if he was so damn shook up about leaving edmonton he should have accepted a slightly lower offer and gave his team a better chance to sign other talent but he was greedy. The guy is a grinder who sits in front of the net and gets garbage goals, hardly worth 6 million and who knows how long his body will be able to keep it up. Not that big of a loss but they should have traded him for sure but they didn't know at the time.
Penner could turn out to be a elite power forward in the league and Anaheims draft choices could flop and not even play in the nhl. We wont know for 3 or 4 years how those deals turn out. Right now Penner is on pace to have another good year.
The Pronger thing was covered, he had to be moved no choice. He did move Lupul too soon and that was a mistake and might not have gotten great value for Pronger but hindsight right?
He has the courage to put out and offer sheet and you have to respect that. The oilers are loaded with young talent so putting out some picks to get nhl ready players isnt a big deal to them. So they have Souray as their bloated contract, find me a team that doesnt have a big contract they regret! Kovalev was ours last year.
In a couple years when the Oilers are developed then we can say whether or not he was a bad GM.
No, I don't have to respect giving out an offer sheet. It's a bad move unless the player is really worth it. I'm not sure Penner is worth it, and we'll see how these three picks that Anaheim got back turn out. But if the deal was done today I seriously doubt that there are many, if any, GMs who would give up a top 5 pick plus a 2nd and 3rd rounder straight up for Penner. It's bad enough to eat the cap-space on a young unproven player, but losing the picks is a very bad move for the new NHL where you always need cheap young players to compete under the cap. Lowe's just lucky that they're not giving 3 first rounders to Buffalo and having Vanek flounder in Edmonton for 7 million a year.
I agree that the Oilers have some good young talent, but this certainly wasn't the season to be breaking the bank. If they had profited from their mediocrity this year with a lottery pick they'd be in much better shape down the road.
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The Pronger deal was very fair, especially considering Pronger had publicly asked for a trade and the Smyth trade was fair value though he shouldn't have been traded.
I don't feel like they got enough out of either of those deals. Maybe he was handcuffed by Pronger publicly asking for a trade, but still the return wasn't that good considering Pronger's stature as one of the top 3-4 D-men in the league. The Smyth trade also seemed a little weak, as most of the other rentals garnered a better return.
But I don't think Hamrlik has really done that much more than Souray did for us. Hamrlik played like a #1 defenceman for the first half of our games so far and then he's been an ordinary player since then, being replaced by Josh Gorges of all people. He really hasn't been the same as he was at the start of the season and I really miss what Souray brought to us, especially when you see our guys getting bullied around by Ryan Hollweg and all the Bruins' goons. I think that Hamrlik has been an upgrade on Souray only because Roman complements the rest of our team whereas our team is good enough offensively to not need a Souray.I agree that Hamrlik has been pretty ordinary on the whole for the last month and a half. But we haven't seen the Souray blunders from him. Hamrlik's ordinary defensive work is better than Souray's subpar defensive work. It is really not worth it to have such a highly paid defenseman who isn't very good in his own end.
I agree that I miss Souray's presence and character. Gotta love Shelly.
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Well, it's a myth that we're a soft team or a small one. Komisarek alone does more damage than 99% of NHLers. Add to that the skilled-yet-robust Kostytins, the imposing Hamrlik, the willing-to-pay-the-price Higgins, gritty guys like Kostopolous and Begin, the startlingly strong Kovalev - put it all together, we're not pansies anymore.
Yeah, plus Latendresse and Lapierre throw their weight around, and Bouillon can be a bruiser. Even Plekanec, a little guy, plays an effective physical game when needed. We don't fight, but we're a tough team within the rules of the game.
I just want to see a good effort out the boys this game. Man, a lot has changed since we played them last, they seemed like an impregnable powerhouse and our team would be lucky to be in the game. Now they've been on the ropes and the Habs have shown grit and character that make me believe we have a chance no matter who we play.
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Worst GM in the league? Activly trying to make your team better makes you a bad GM?
Oh yeah, he's the worst in the league. Look what he got back for the captain, heart and soul, and face of the franchise last year. And all because they were maybe half a million per year apart in what they wanted, and now he's resigned with a division rival. Look what they got back for Pronger, one of the best D-men in the league that instantly brought a Cup to Anaheim. Look at the likely top 5 pick they're giving to Anaheim in reportedly the best draft class in years because Lowe was panicking, plus a 2nd and a 3rd rounder later on. San Jose traded Toskala and Bell for that package (although the 3rd is a 4th in that deal), but Lowe thought Dustin Penner is worth it. He's lucky that Buffalo matched his offer and he's not stuck with Vanek for a ridiculous sum. Plus Souray is overpaid for four more years, but that's the least of his blunders.
JFJ could have challenged for the title of the worst in the league, but now that he's gone the crown goes to Lowe.
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Saku's already coming out of his funk. I predict he'll be a key guy in our stretch drive.
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True, Gagnon did mess up on his prediction, but then again, how many reporters and so-called experts messsed up with their predictions regarding the Habs? Probably 95% of them!
Yeah, but I expected better from Gagnon.
Plus, he didn't say 9th or 10th like the rest of them, he said 14th.Your comment about 110% is soooo true. Gagnon, Marc Defoy from the journal de Montréal and Michel Langevin from CKAC Sports are the only ones who ever say something intelligent! The rest are just a bunch of idiots. Unfortunately I'm hooked. I've been watching 110% for the past 6 or 7 years now. I'm really hooked!Yeah, they can be pretty entertaining, but I can only take them in small doses. The best is after a big win in an exciting game, they get so worked up and they're all just shouting over each other. The host guy is funny because he seems like he's had a few drinks before the show (well I guess they all do), and Michel, despite being very dumb, is funny as well.
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That's a nice story. I always liked Shelly and was sad to see him go. So were many of the female fans of the Habs. He was just a stand-up guy, he stuck up for his teammates and represented the team well.
Having said that, we're in much better shape with Hamrlik taking up that cap-space. As great as Shelly is, he's not worth what we were going to pay him, and him in Edmonton for five years at 5.4 million per season is just another feather in Lowe's cap as the worst GM in the league.
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Why do you consider Hasek clutch? He took forever to win a cup and he had good teams and good chances to do it many times. If anything, he is fragile.
Hasek was pretty damn clutch in those years with Buffalo. They had no business making it out of the first round, let alone getting to the finals.
I'd say Luongo is clutch judging by how he's played with team Canada, and also how he made a non-playoff team a division champ, but it's too early to judge him at the moment. He's nowhere near the league of Brodeur, and probably never will be.
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Yeah, I doubt we'll get Hossa, the asking price would be too high. It would be Emelin and a whole lot else. Probably a first-rounder and a guy like Chips or McDonagh. Although that isn't totally unreasonable for a PPG player.
Besides, I'm excited to see what Emelin will be like in a year or two, provided he comes over in the offseason. He'd probably take a year in Hamilton (but who knows, S. Kost didn't need it), and then the season after next we might have the best combination of youth and experience on the blueline with our current top three and then McDonagh and Emelin breaking in.
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Nope, no Hossa for us.
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And rightfully so he never raised his elbow. Sure he could have lowered his shoulder a bit more but oh well a 2 min penalty is the worst he should have got.
That's right. It's not Kovy's fault that Hollweg's grandpa was this guy:
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Where exactly do you find me criticizing Gagnon inparticular in what I wrote? I did not put him down. That was not the intent. I was hoping he would read what I wrote and write a piece on it. I did say, "Something Rejean Tremblay nor François Gagnon may know nothing about." I was not intending to paint them with the same brush. I did also say "(top to bottom)" too.
The spirit of what I wrote was more describing Gagnon being good to Tremblay being questionable.
My apologies Habsfan
Agreed, I like Gagnon. On 110% he's the only one that says anything intelligent, the other guys are just laugably stupid (that's the main appeal of the show). He also comes on CTV now and again and has worthwhile commentary.
But he predicted the Habs would finish 14th, so I hope he's enjoying his crow right now!
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Wamsley has officially wiped the floor with your ridiculous arguments. I admire his tenacity, you can tell he is parent because he is so adept at laying things out in a clear and irrefutable way to someone of a smaller intellect.
Hossa - Will we or Won't we?
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Out of the big names available Jokinen is the one that I'd want the most.
But it's not a perfect world.