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Although I said previously that Poehling would make the the team if he played well in the last exhibition game, it might be prudent to give him some time in Laval given that he missed significant time in camp.
I don’t think that they will waive Thompson at this point. I think Folin or Reilly are more likely candidates, if Poehling is not sent down, with Reilly being odd man out as his salary makes him less likely to be claimed than Folin
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Based on Bergevin’s comments today, I think that if Poehling is ready to go Saturday and plays well he stays, with Hudon, Riley and Lindgren getting cut. If Poehling needs more time, he will go to Laval and Riley stays.
I’m still holding out hope that Hudon gets traded for a 7th rounder.
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12 minutes ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said:
Did Barber clear waivers?
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On 9/25/2019 at 2:17 AM, tomh009 said:
The asking price is apparently down to a fourth-rounder now. I should hope Bergevin could find a player with equivalent value to send over.
If that is true maybe we could send Hudon and 4th for Honka and a 7th. Mtl needs to clear up a contract spot
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3 hours ago, Metallica said:
Here's a question with the log jam at centers on the habs.... Yes you read that right the habs have a lot of centers. Is Danault trade bait for the habs? The habs centers now are.
Danault
Domi
Kotkaniemi
Suzuki
Poehling
Weal
Thompson
The way Suzuki has been playing I think he's made the team over poehling who's injured.
I would shop Danault along with one of our 2nd round picks to see if we can improve our LD.
Have the centers look like this
Domi
Kotkaniemi
Suzuki
Thompson
Put Weal on the wing and Poehling starts the year in the AHL.
Uh, would you tear off your front door to repair a leaking window? Trading Danault now would cause far more problems than it would solve.
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11 hours ago, sbhatt said:
Good to see: Poehling looking really good
Wish I never had to see again: Hudon...why is he still hanging around at this point?
I would love to see Bergevin wield some of his bargin basement magic to turn Hudon into Honka or, failing that, a seventh round pick 😎
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15 minutes ago, Dalhabs said:
I would laugh a bit at Nashvilles cap situation if it was Weber.
That is true...but it wouldn’t be my first thought 😎
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14 minutes ago, Commandant said:
Evans and Fleury are good examples of what happens when you put decent prospects with a good coach like Bouchard for a year.
I wouldn't mind them making the team and Poehling, Suzuki, Brook, getting that year with Bouchard.That is an excellent point. Hiring Bouchard might have been the most crucial move of this “re-set”.
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1 hour ago, JoeLassister said:
Sounds like Big Buff would be contemplating retirement. As if the Jets were not already in some trouble.
Just imagine the reaction here if that was Weber. 😱
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I like some of Luszczyszyn’s stuff but I think he is a little off comparing Chariot to Alzner. Chariot can skate for one thing...
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I’m still holding out hope that Bergevin will be able to turn him into a 5th round pick
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23 minutes ago, DON said:
Which way is that, South or West? Hopefully 1st move in a sign and trade, for his sake at least.
What team might be looking for a slowish 25 year old LW who had a productive rookie year, but then only played 32 gms with 5pts last year.
Edmonton needs cheap wingers...
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30 minutes ago, DON said:
In a beer league maybe. And exactly what makes you think he can still play at NHL level?
His lack of any offense in a inferior league, or increased injuries and decreasing games played/yr?
I don’t know if he can play or not. Given our current situation with the cap I would be willing to risk a couple of Molson’s millions to find out.
A PTO would be an even better option if Markov would accept it.
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16 hours ago, tomh009 said:
The Athletic's ranking of our top prospects, by Mitch Brown, part 1:
HM3. Vejdemo
HM2. Leskinen
HM1. Teasdale
20. Fairbrother
19. Stapley
18. Fonstad
17. Hillis
16. Olofsson
The article has great in-depth analysis, but check out the criteria, especially the last one:
To be eligible for the ranking, a player must reach these four criteria:
- NHL rights held by the Canadiens (excludes players on AHL deals)
- 23 years of age or younger
- 41 games of NHL experience or fewer
- I’ve viewed at least 20 percent of the player’s regular season games
Why does this putz bother watching all of these games and actually thinking about what he is writing when he could just spew unfounded opinions like the excretable M. Kelly?
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“I hear from everybody not named Brendon Kelly that the Canadiens have a great group of prospects.”
Connor McKenna TSN Radio 690
Paraphrase of Mitch Brown (The Athletic) interview in the same segment:
i rank the Canadiens between 4-6 of the best prospect pools. They have everything: high end forwards and defense prospects and great depth. They have 20-30 guys with the potential to play in the NHL.
Mitch Brown The Athletic on TSN 690
www.tsn.ca/radio/montreal-690/brown-habs-prospects-and-how-good-are-they-1.1338488
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10 hours ago, Commandant said:
Kelly writes this stupid negative shit every week. He's unreadable.
I highly doubt Kelly has even seen much of these kids.
Why would he have to see them to write drivel about every team has prospects and not all prospects reach their potential? Almost any regular on this site could produce a more insightful and entertaining column in their sleep. I find it incomprehensible that the Gazette keeps paying him for that dreck. It it an insult to the memory of Red Fisher and to the intelligence of the, declining, readership of a formerly great paper.
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11 hours ago, habscout said:
As someone said the daily coverage is very good, similar to what the Gazette used to be durng the hay days of the Habs (1950's through 1970's)
I said something like this on the Athletic site the other day and I might have mentioned it on here in a rant against that no talent hack Brendon Kelly whose every word as a Gazette “sports writer” is an insult to the memory of Red Fischer and the journalistic integrity of what used to be a great paper.
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3 hours ago, John B said:
I may have mentioned this before, but I'll mention it again. I wouldn't be willing to pay more for Puljujarvi than St. Louis paid for Yakupov. Puljujarvi hasn't put up the same numbers as Yakupov. Oilers backs are against the wall as well. He is refusing to sign with them.
Puljujarvi Yakupov
28/1/7/8 = 0.29PPG 48/17/14/31 = 0.65PPG
65/12/8/20 = 0.31PPG 63/11/13/24 = 0.38PPG
46/4/5/9 = 0.20PPG 81/14/19/33 = 0.41PPG
Puljujarvi has some intangibles that Yakupov did not have, but the offensive numbers are worse. Edmonton is trying to sell his potential, not what he is. What he is right now is a bottom 6 forward with upside. That's not worth anything more than a mid round pick. One could argue that Hudon is a bottom 6 forward with upside. Because Puljujarvi was a 4th overall pick, I'd be willing to give up a 3rd rounder and maybe an inconsequential roster player with upside (like Hudon) or a low level project type prospect. Yakupov went for a 3rd and an ECHLer, and he was a 1st overall pick that put up better numbers and had more upside. It would be nice to acquire Puljujarvi to see if he blossoms here, but I wouldn't want to see the Habs pay an Andrew Shaw type price (2nd and 3rd rounder) for him. Just my two cents.
Note : Hudon has 0.35PPG over his career while Puljujarvi has 0.27PPG. Granted Hudon is older and has played a couple of seasons in the minors to develop. Hudon also has similar career point totals (39 to Puljujarvi's 37) in a similar number of games (110 for Hudon, 139 for Puljujarvi).
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4 hours ago, TheDriveFor25 said:
What? Not a risk?
This is the exact type of risk MB should be taking.. he’s a young kid with tons of potential who looked like a beast a couple years ago.. he’d be a reasonable cost, and would fit into the team window..
It’s a low risk with the potential to be very rewarding..
I disagree unless the cost is very low. Gusev, on the other hand would be worth taking a chance on. He has at least consistently produced in a Men’s league
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I was hoping that MTL would sign him.
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1 hour ago, tomh009 said:
Part that, I expect, and part hesitation by other teams. The waiver rule is a killer: if he's not ready for NHL ice time, you can't get him into the AHL without someone else snapping him up on waivers. So you risk sitting him in the press box and using up a roster spot. So unless you are really weak on RW it's not a great risk to take.
And not a risk Montreal should take imho. Not saying that Puljujarvi has no upside but ....
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1 hour ago, Metallica said:
Other teams are saying the same thing about Hundon. He's not worth more then a 5th or 6th round pick to other teams . In the eyes of edmonton Puljujarvi is a potential top 6 player and their just not going to give him away like some of you think.
I’m not trying to convince you that Hudon is worth more than at 5th or a 6th. A 4th would be a great return on him right now. As for Puljujarvi Edm is not getting strong offers for him or he would have been traded already. I think they are hoping he goes to Europe next season and plays well to boost his trade value.
All I’m saying is that he is too big a risk for MTL to acquire for anything more than a bargain basement price and so they probably will not get him and I am fine with that
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3 hours ago, huzer said:
I don't see anyone really pumping Hudon's tires here.
Exactly. I included him as a potential part of a Puljujarvi deal to illustrate how little MTL should give up to acquire him. I don’t think that Puljujarvi is worth more to Montreal right now.
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5 hours ago, Metallica said:
You'll be lucky if you get a 3rd for Hundon. You actually think that edmonton would give up a 4th overall pick in Puljujarvi for him? He has the potential to be a top 6 player, someone who could be on your top line or 2nd line. And Hundon is a 3rd or 4th line center at best in the NHL. Hundon and a 2nd or 3rd would not get you Puljujarvi considering they don't need a center. I mean if Bergevin wanted to take a chance and send a offer sheet to anyone it should of been Puljujarvi and not Aho. Not sure what a offer sheet would look like in terms of numbers for Puljujarvi. I know Hundon wants out but you need to be realistic on who Hundon is in the NHL.
No, I don’t think that Hudon has much value. What I said was that I would be happy to see Bergevin take a flyer on if Puljujarvi if we weren’t giving up anything substantial. From what I hear about his hockey sense I fear he is going to be a bust. You are probably right we will be lucky to get a 3rd for Hudon. Even a 4th would be fine. My post was a reaction against giving up a useful roster player in Byron for Puljujarvi—not saying that I think Hudon has much value, because I don’t think that he does. That was my point.
Where is the season prediction thread?
in Habs & Hockey Talk
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C’mon gentlemen! I have a lot of, largely unfounded, optimism to display.