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6 minutes ago, Trizzak said:
Just write "Marc Bergevin loves trading for 'Marc Bergevin'" like it's the typewriter transcript in The Shining.
6 minutes ago, Trizzak said:Why the hell would Bergevin trade a 20 year old like Bitten for a 23 year old with ZERO offensive ability who JUST cleared waivers??!!!
Just when I think he might actually have learned something and actually developed a plan he makes this kind of boneheaded deal?
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21 hours ago, TheDriveFor25 said:
47-22-8-5 for 107 points
2nd in Division
3rd in the East
287 goals
Price is Price. Kots wins ROTY. Drouin leads team with 82 points.
I thought, the hell with it- i’m going to wait and then make the most optimistic prediction. However, after reading 25’s post, I realized I cannot top that.
i am, however, still going with pie in the sky optimism.
45-24- 6-7 for 103 points
3rd in Division
5th in the East
275 goals
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I get the concern on term, but we are talking about a guy who worked his ass off in rehab to come back several weeks early from shoulder surgery. To me, that means he is going to stay in shape which lessens the chances of a precipitous decline. Plus, this is not a long-term deal to a player already in decline. I think Byron is a good bet to deliver value for the length of this contract
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17 hours ago, Neech said:
I love Byron, but this is another example of Bergevin overpaying 'his guys' against better judgment. We need to be acquiring youth, assets, and flexibility, and this deal makes it harder for a contender to trade for him.
Definitely not a Bergevin supporter, but I find it hard to criticize this deal. Byron is reliable, relatively low cost secondary scoring who can occasionally play up in the line-up and kills penalties. Even if we are “re-setting” we still need a supporting cast and some veterans. Byron ticks all the boxes. If you think Byron is overpaid check the comparable. He is value at 3.4 mill aav
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8 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
So, that means you like the Patches trade, which makes sense...and what else - ? The Arnia pick-up? I like that too, but this is hardly a huge body of work.
I still have trouble here. You're implying that (basically) Geoff Molson is a quality NHL general manager. If this is true, then we're the luckiest fanbase in sport, to have an owner who is both interfering and an excellent hockey man. Obviously, my preference is that the owner hire a GM who can be trusted not to smash all the furniture and then leave him to do his job.
Now, if Molson is both calling the shots and making the right ones, maybe he is getting excellent hockey advice from some expert who knows the game. And if so, then that advisor should be made GM.
Not exactly. We need a hockey ops VP or higher between Molson and Bergevin. As I said, in a previous post, an owner who doesn’t realize he is part of the problem is more of a problem than a semi-competent GM
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14 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said:
And the Cup.
Absolute robbery.
I like the return better than what we got for Subban
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1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
I tend to agree with DON above...Molson seems to be committed to Bergevin despite his appalling track record. I have a feeling MB is going to be given a bona-fide opportunity to lead the 'rebuild' (i.e. the rebuild made necessary by his cataclysmic incompetence). May as well settle in for another half-decade of Marky Mark and the F*cked-Up Bunch.
I have been a Canadiens fan since I was old enough to understand hockey as was my father before me and my son and daughter are carrying on the tradition. However, there is no way that I can continue to watch unless Bergevin has actually learned from his mistakes and given his comments before, and especially after, the Pacioretty trade, it doesn’t seem he has. Molson is really starting to worry me as he does not appear to realize that he is part of the problem
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I don’t want either traded while Bergevin is still in change
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39 minutes ago, dlbalr said:
A second explanation is that Duchene plays centre, a position in very high demand. Pacioretty is a winger (left shot at that), those players aren't in as high of demand as a legitimate top-six centre. If Ottawa was to trade Duchene today, they should fetch a better return than what the Habs got for Pacioretty.
That may be true, but one of the reasons that the return was lower than it could have been were the circumstances that Bergevin created.
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Why then did Colorado get such a haul for Duchene when his production and Pacioretty ‘s is virtually identical? And Duchene is ufa after this season?
Answer: the Canadiens botched the relationship with the player—again— and had no choice but to get rid of MP ASAP. That is not good planning and it is not good GM’ing
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I really can't understand why people are so happy about this trade. If Pacioretty really needed to go he should have been traded at the deadline where Tatar netted three picks.
An analogy:
You need to build a house. Imagine you hire a new guy with a lot of experience who apprenticed in great organization. At first, all is well and he does some great work with some discount pieces.
Then, he has a dispute with one of the most talented young workers and gets rid of him to bring in an older guy who has the “right attitude”. The new guy was great at first, but he is always hurt.
Things continue to go wrong and the project does not progress the way that it was envisioned. What looked like an award-winning mansion in the making is now looking decrepit. Feuds with the work crew continue to slow progress--attitude is blamed again-- and your prized possession is losing its luster.
Then, the cumulative incompetence, leads to a fire and your house is partly destroyed. Somehow, in the middle of that, your guy manages to move out one of your long term employees for some younger, potentially more skilled workers.
Now, a mansion that looked to be just about done and ready to win is in ruins. Most experts estimate that it will take 3-5 years to repair the damage.
Do you keep the same guy in charge for what he says is a "reset," not a full rebuild?
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On 2018-07-29 at 5:35 PM, Link67 said:
I can admire a man who knows the ship is sinking but hold his head up high and carries on all the same...
Thanks? I like the clip also but I find the experience is more like this:
It has a lot more angst and a lot less stoicism
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I am an addict. That and an undying optimism in the face of all rational evidence that the team will somehow be better. Hell, I’m still watching Alouette games
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Good. I am even more afraid of Bergevin making a stupid deal than I am at the prospect of us entering the season with a centre lineup of Drouin, plexs, Danault and dela Rose
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Orpik is going to be UFA so we still might
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I don’t mind PACs for RoR, but I still hope they don’t draft Tkachuk at 3
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The Gomez trade because others have noted the worst ones already
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I have been saying for years on the forums and on the podcast that a professional coaching development centre of excellence and putting good, young francophone coaches on retainer for right of first refusal is imperative for the Canadiens to develop their own network of coaches. At a minimum the coach in the echl and the Ahl should be being groomed for the Nhl. The hiring of Ducharme is a long overdue step in the right direction
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The only attitude adjustment I am concerned with now is Geoff Molson’s. He needs to realize a. What a dreadful mistake he made , and continues to make, with Bergevin and
b. Realize that he needs a hockey lifer between him and the GM.
Unfortunately, I don’t see either of these things happening without another lost season?
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1 hour ago, illWill said:
I can't do it. It is like mutually breaking up with a girl and then you cheer her on as she starts dating a guy you hate.
I realized during this Leafs/ Bruins series than under no circumstances, ever, will I cheer for the Leafs to win. Even typing Leafs and win in the same sentence feels wrong. I almost typed go Bruins but I can’t do that either....I am starting to hate Bergevi?.
Go Knights!
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8 hours ago, REV-G said:
So the next obvious question is who replaces him?
It seems like MB has a great opportunity now to put in place an heir apparent for the head coach of the Canadiens.
If finding a very good bilingual head coach is such a challenge the smart thing to do would be to hire the best possible, most successful QMJHL coach and install him as our AHL coach, and let him bring in some great assistants also with future potential, and hopefully have people developing and waiting in the wings for whenever the next opportunity arrives for the big club.
You would think this should be an obvious direction to go??
I have been saying for years that given the language constraints around the head coach that the Canadiens must do a better job of developing internal replacements
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1. Fire Begevin
2. Hire a Director of Hockey Operations —an experienced hockey lifer to oversee the renaissance
3. Perform a thorough and detailed review of all aspects of the operation with special emphasis on pro scouting and player development and make changes as needed.
4. Fire Slyvain Lefebvre and replace him with a young(ish) Francophone coach who is next in line to coach the Habs
5. As an insurance policy for # 4, hire Alain Vigneault in some capacity or put him on a right of first refusal personal services contract
6. Win the lottery
7. Sign Tavares
8. Sign a 2nd line centre
9. Sign or trade for a d who can complement Shea Weber.
10. Have plan B, C, D, E, F and G with viable NHL players involved in case #6, 7, 8, 9 &10 don’t work out.
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2 hours ago, Machine of Loving Grace said:
For those curious, at a .436 win percentage this club has a worse record than any Houle team. With two more losses they would tie the worst modern era club in 00-01 and if they lose all of their last games it would set a franchise record for losses in a season. They currently match 15-16 in regulation losses but with 10 less wins so far.
Historic season this has been developing into.
Doesn’t hurt as much because I have stopped watching
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Probably next season at the rate things are going
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13th Annual Regular season Prediction Contest
in Habs & Hockey Talk
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Why not?
Actually, I have to be optimistic because if not I won’t be able to watch. Also, if the stars align they might actually make the playoffs.
Ask me tomorrow how I feel. The season hasn’t even started yet and I am already pissed off due to MB’ s idiodic trade of Will Bitten.