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5 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said:
Matteau and Crisp were hot garbage.
Dalton Thrower had a great name. Wish he became an NHLer.
Actually not commenting on Matteau's value; just surprised that --since they traded for the POS relatively recently -- they didn't qualify him. I guess I should be happy that MB is able to cut his losses despite possible bad PR
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A little surprised about Matthau- and Johnson since he reportedly just signed in Europe
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1 hour ago, JGC21 said:
Hmmm, it will be interesting to see what MB does with Markov and Radu. I can't see him caving on their ask of a 2-year and a 6-year contract, respectively. Does he let them walk?
No real reason not to give Markov two years. He's earned it and the last thing we need is another hole to fill.
However much most of us want him back, Radulov's ask of 6 mil over 7 years is too much money and far too long a term. I could see MB going to 7 mil on a 3-4 yr term but even that is a little rich from my perspective but the Oshie contract certainly doesn't help.
One thing is certain, if Bergevin persists in trading Galcheyuk and doesn't get good value, we are pooched.
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3 hours ago, Scott462 said:
At this point I don't think Chucky is going to be moved. Teams seem to be wanting to buy low on him and Bergevin is not having it and will just keep him.
I hope that you are right
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45 minutes ago, dlbalr said:
*%#}@@@@@!!!!! At 6 yrs at 7mil there is no way Radulov comes back. Nor do I want him at that price Arrrrrrrgh!
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6 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
That's exactly how I feel about a Gally trade right now. Don't like him? Fine. Not in the long term plan? Fine. Want to trade him now at his lowest possible value? NOT FINE!
There is a better way! See Yrzeman, Steve and Drouin, Jonathan for a textbook example
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No more defensive woes; we've got Shelmco!
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1 hour ago, BCHabnut said:
Ya some of those players had me scratching my head. I ended up thinking, "you picked him when all those good guys were available? There must be a trade." them there was no trade. Haula and Thorburn come to mind.
LVK got a Haul'a assets to lay off Dumba et al. The only pick that really surprised me, other than Emelin was Engllyand (sp ) from Calgary. Must have been as he is close as they could get to a local
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1 hour ago, Commandant said:
This trade looks genius right now.
Got rid of Emelin for free.
If Beaulieu was in Montreal Vegas takes him over Emelin.
If beaulieu was protected, Vegas takes Benn over Emelin.
I was wondering if that was part of the plan. Considering that the Pens gave up a pick to get rid of Fleury's salary and what other teams gave up or lost I think we did pretty well.
Now to scoop a good, young LVK defenseman for picks
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Just now, Trizzak said:
I want Radulov and Markov extensions signed tomorrow morning.
Amen, brother. And Price too--just for luck?
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5 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
I think it is way premature to make the argument that there is a systematic pattern of favouring francophone players.
It is impossible to deny the pattern in the coaching staff; but how much of that has to do with language, as opposed to MB surrounding himself with incompetent drinking buddies, is hard to say.
The thing is, the language card is a canard. MB's ongoing support for the tire-fire that is Lefebvre's player-development regime is gross negligence that is destroying the organization from within. Coupled with dumb moves and non-moves at the NHL level, it's a firing offence purely on hockey terms. No need to bring language into it.
Actually if Lefebvre is re-hired, I am going to have to join the Bergevin must go ranks. Also, it is not that Galchnyuk is traded that will be my issue, but whether or not we get enough back. I don't care who gets traded it the return is good enough. My issue with the Drouin trade is purely that he is not a centre. My problem with the Beaulieu trade is that devaluating an asset; painting yourself into a corner with the expansion draft and trading a player at his lowest possible value is simply piss poor asset management. Similarly, trading Subban and Sergachev in succession without getting even a centre prospect back is worrisome.
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4 hours ago, Commandant said:
If Hudon at C didn't work in the AHL and they stopped the experiment, why is it going to work in the NHL?
It might work because Julien will be the coach instead of Lefebvre ?
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34 minutes ago, dlbalr said:
It sounds like Scandella plus a forward was the deal the Habs were targeting for Galchenyuk from Minnesota.
Would it be too much to ask that the forward be a centre
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11 minutes ago, nihilz said:
Plekanec for Koivu would be an interesting idea. Habs retain some cash.
I like it except for the cap-crunch
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I expect that Bergevin will swing a deal to ensure Vegas takes Plex. They get an asset and a serviceable player to teach their young guys to be professionals and we get precious cap relief. Win-win
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He's still not a centre
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27 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said:
No, I think he meant he is piss at trading for Claude Lemieux for Sylvie turgeon. I'm still pissed at that as well.
Yes. That
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1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Good post (except of course you mean 'Pierre' Turgeon).
Actually, I did mean Sylvian who the Habs got when they dumped Claude Lemieux, but I can see the argument for including Pierre as well.
Ranking the Montreal GMs:
GREAT
1. Pollock by a country mile
VERY GOOD
2. Serge Savard. Two Cups, drafted some all-time greats, had some home run deals, and some total disasters.
AVERAGE
3. Bob Gainey. Two rebuilds, one by drafting and development, the other by free agency. Restored the Habs to respectability but could not actually build a contender.
BELOW AVERAGE
4. Bergevin. Hidebound and unable to properly identify and address team weaknesses. Also unable to draft and develop talent. However, largely due to a core derived from Gainey/Gauthier, his team has thus far been quite competitive, albeit not a true contender. If the team doesn't win within the next three years or so, his regime will go down as an era of total futility, because there is no 'next generation' ready to succeed this one.
BAD
5. Goat
ONE OF THE WORST GMS IN THE HISTORY OF THE SPORT AND UNQUESTIONABLY THE WORST IN HABS HISTORY
6. Houle.
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In chronological order, I am still pissed at
Sam Pollock for retiring early which led to the loss of Scotty Bowman and to Grudman.
Grudman- not drafting Savard; Langway trade
Savard- Chelios trade; slyvian turgeon trade; the trade for Recchi.
Houle the fool: for the Roy trade and almost everything he did with the sole exception of drafting Markov
Gainey- Koivu, Gomez and Mcdonagh
The Ghost- dragging the franchise into even more disrepute than Houle and giving the Squid away for the waste of space known as Rene Bourque
Bergevin for not getting more in the Subban trade and not getting a centre
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Benn's beard: C'est magnifique!!
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4 hours ago, DON said:
Thanks, I doubt Bergy would offer up a pick to get them to take a bad contract.
Habs don't have anyone vital that really would be missed badly. Losing a Beaulieu, Benn or Hudon/de la Rose just wouldn't be a big loss.
I think need all the assets we can get or keep so I can see Beaulieu being traded or a side deal being made so they don't lose a D-man. If Bergevin protects Plex over Hudon then he really is an idiot and I will be on the fire Bergy bandwagon. Plexs is done offensively and Hudon has potential
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It would be great if we could get Thornton but I doubt he wants to leave San Jose. Steal would be fine too
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On 2017-06-10 at 4:51 PM, hab29RETIRED said:
No bloody way. Julsson or Beaulieu, or even botha
ong with McCarron sure. I wouldn't trade Drouin straight up for sergechev. We are rail thin on D that can actually move the puck on the team and in our prospect pool.
Sergechev and a 1st is a massive overpayment. Beaulieu and pick would be more like it. I would like to see Montreal clearly win a major trade for a change and they certainly will not if they give up Serg or Gally for Duchene?
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I hope that Price follows Sid's good example and takes a lower salary so that the team can afford the talent to win. Also, I would remind you all that 3 years ago many fans and pundits thought that Rutherford had lost his touch. His recasting as a genius is revisionist history
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Yes we need to take these kinds of gambles and given our GM has earned the nicknames "Mark down Mark "and "Bargain bin Bergevin" we hope that he will do it with a young forward who still has the glimmer of potential. Also, our Russian contingent might help him get on track