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10 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Y’know, I have never been a Tanquiste. But I’ve also long been pessimistic about how the Habs will look post-Weber/Price. If this year turns out to be a disaster and we then ship out a couple of core pieces at the deadline for a handsome return that really beefed up the prospect pool, I would not object to that.
That’s what I meant when I said no mushy middle. I want decisive action from Bergevin to beef up or tank before the deadline.
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7 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
Having pegged this group as a bubble team at the outset, I believe that the mushy middle is the best to be hoped for.
Bubble is fine...as long as they are on the playoff side. If they make the playoffs, I will be happy. If they miss the playoffs and get a lottery pick I will be consoled. If they just miss the playoffs and give a decent pick to Arizona, I will be pissed.
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15 minutes ago, BCHabnut said:
I sort of agree with hockeyrealist. This was a sloppy game overall. Very happy they stepped up and won, but they don't seem to have any cohesion on the ice. Take the win and build some confidence. Hopefully a better played next game with the same result.
Sloppy? Maybe. Hard to watch? Nope.
Also, six games is a tiny sample size. Last season they looked great early and faded. Let’s hope that this year is the opposite. Alternatively, if they are going to be bad, I hope that they are really bad. Playoffs or pain for Shane and no mushy middle, please. -
4 hours ago, hockeyrealist said:
Happy for the win, nice for the crowd to get to cheer and obv nice for the players to break the funk… but, they did not play well. Both teams were turnover machines, the Habs would have lost that gas me to most teams.
They still rarely made more than one good pass in a row, barely made some entries and defensive coverage was mediocre.
The team did seem due for some good luck so that is great but they did not play well enough to win most games.On back end Petry continues to fight the puck and make questionable decisions/poor passes.
Chiarot played best game of season for himself so far, made some decent break out passes.
Romanov continues to look lost, often out of position. Savard was mediocre at best.
Kulak and Nicky did not loom as scary as suspected and Niku at least showed some skills with the puck and made better passes than we are used to, Kulak made a couple smart rushes and didn’t look too out of place.
Seems to me last night the d did better at getting puck to forwards but only half the passes were successful (either due to poor pass or forward bungling it) but the consistent problem is poor passes/decision amongst the forwards going through neutralzone and entering offensive zone, terrible puck management and decision making. The dump and chase comes from these issues and it rarely generates offensive possession just contested pucks.
Happy for the win but it was still and ugly game and hard to watch.Really? You found a 6-1 victory (to end a 5 game losing streak where they scored 4 goals in 5 games) hard to watch? Are you really a fan of the Canadiens?
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Is it too early for a Pain for Shane, campaign?
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3 minutes ago, Commandant said:
Savard - Chiarot have been together and on the ice for 3 of the 4 Sharks goals (and numerous scoring chances).
Ive been saying for weeks now, this pair DOES NOT WORK.
They are simply two of the same style of defencemen, with the same strengths and weaknesses. Similarly Kulak, Wideman, and Niku are all similar.
Why they don't do
Chiarot - Wideman/Niku
Kulak - Savard
I simply don't understand.
You are not alone. I think that the only two people on Earth who think those pairings are a good idea are Ducharme and Richardson.
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41 minutes ago, zumpano21 said:
Kind of hoping the Leafs go up 3-1 and we make the come back, 4-3.
Here’s hoping we score a couple of quick goals, choke the life out of TO and coast to an easy win … and that Steve Dangle’s post game pain is back to being hilarious
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A) 45-25-5-7
B) 4th place
C) 15th
D) 25 goals
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35 minutes ago, dlbalr said:
Players' values go up after they clear waivers. We've seen that plenty of times. Besides, he was the throw-in, not the centrepiece of the trade.
Yes, I know. But still….
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Aggravated that Fla was able to get an asset for Juulson
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20 hours ago, Commandant said:
I think romanov will start the season with petry.
Id split the other two pairs.
Not enough speed in a chiarot-savard pair and not enough grit in kulak - wideman.
Id go
Chiarot wideman and kulak savard.
That makes sense…wonder if DD sees it that way?
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6 hours ago, dlbalr said:
So much for him pushing for a spot in camp.
That sucks for Niki. There should have been a penalty AND supplemental discipline for that hit.
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1 hour ago, dlbalr said:
Vejdemo is a bit of a surprise as he was someone I had pegged to be in it for a while. He'll go on waivers tomorrow.
I thought that he had a decent game tonight.
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3 hours ago, Commandant said:
Well Brook is out at least 3 months.
Norlinder is NHL or SHL
Guhle is NHL or WHL.
These three arent options for Laval early in the year so if goloubef impresses there is an ahl spot for him.
What happened to Brook? I wouldn't be upset to see Norlinder in Montreal, but I would hate for them to rush Guhle. Since he played very little last season another season in the NHL would be best for his development.
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18 minutes ago, Commandant said:
Not every third overall pick can have the impact of Eric Gudbranson, Zach Bogosian, Jack Johnson, Cam Barker, Dylan Strome and Alexandr Svitov.
As for Galchenyuk, still a good pick when you look at that draft which is hot garbage.
Any list with the words, “Jack Johnson and impact” can’t be good 😊 Glad to see that you are back.
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1 hour ago, hab29RETIRED said:
Giving the coyotes the better of the 1st rounders is dumb and an overpayment. You are entitled to your opinion. I think under the circumstances that the price for Dvorak was reasonable. It was not a dumb trade. Not addressing the gaping hole in the middle of the line-up would have been dumb.
Ours will certainly be worse. I don't think our pick will necessarily be worse, the Canes potentially have issues in net, on D and in the room.
Giving up a second rounder in 2024, also limits our ability to sign RFA’s in the future as well. We gave up more for Dvorak than what we got fit KK.
Are you seriously criticizing the trade because trading a 2024 second round pick will preclude an offer sheet at that time?????!!! Dvorak is the better player right now and several other teams were interested.
So I should praise Bergevin for the idiotic 1st pick this year? NO. For failing to improve our D?? NOFor losing a guy he had been selling as the future of franchise for a late 1st rounder and a 3rd rounder? NO, except for Dundon's need for revenge I very much doubt that KK would be anywhere but Montreal. I suppose I should also stop criticizing the idiotic Sergechev trade, NO the idiotic handling of Mete and KK as 18 year olds, the first the Alzner signing over Markov, for not offering two years to Perry? The historical criticism is getting old and how do you know that Perry wasn't offered two years? Also, you are really going to criticize him for letting Perry go and signing Pacquette?
he has handed out stupid terms and $ to veteran marginal players (Byron as an example) Do you have another example, because I can't think of one, and played hardball with kids - when the league is going in the opposite directions. ... That is simply not true there are several significant RFA's that are not signed including Brady T. in Ottawa as most clubs are fighting hard to keep their RFA's cost controlled. It’s dumb declining teams like San Jose that continuously have handed out them and dollars to declining veterans. My point is, you can't reasonably attack Bergevin for giving contracts to veterans and then criticize him for replacing Perry with a younger player.
Look, this whole debate might make me seem like a Bergevin apologist but I really wanted him fired in 2017. If they had lost to the Leafs, I would have wanted him and everyone else fired. The organization really needs to stop rushing prospects to the NHL, most of the time it simply doesn't work. However, for all the mistakes Bergevin built a team that competed for the Cup. He deserves credit for that, and to attack him for refusing to let the Canes revenge wreak havoc on the team for years is misguided. He made the right decision to cut the cord with KK and he got a decent, cost controlled second line centre for a reasonable price.
In any case, I am sure that we will both agree to disagree and I am finished with this debate.
I see a clear YzerPlan. There is no clear coherent BergePlan.
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21 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said:
Of course it did. The habs were maxed out and exposed capwise. The Canes times their offer sheet perfectly. MB had spent his money; and only had Weber’s LTIR and the allowable overage to spare. We had plenty of wingers. Didn’t need another one. Centre and Offence from the D was where we had a need. Money should have been saved in case there was an opportunity in season to make an addition, even when you take KK out of the equation.
with the team of the deal we made with Arizona, we have to be careful what we wish for from the Canes this year. Mind boggling terms that MB conceded. Looked like a rookie GM through this hole mess and the draft.
You seem oblivious to the point that Montreal had plenty of cap room to sign Kk to the bridge that they wanted and could have matched the Canes ridiculous offer and rightly chose not to do so. What are you talking about” mind-boggling terms” that Bergevin agreed to? The whichever of the two picks Arizona gets is top ten protected. The Coyotes get the best pick unless either of them is in the top ten then they get the lower pick. That is a tidy bit of business. Perhaps you think a first and a second an outrageous price? Then you shouldn’t like the Canes giving up a first without protection and a 3rd plus an extra 1.5million for a player who scored 5 goals last season. You really need to give the Bergevin bashing a rest.
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57 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said:
And paying $5.5m for Drouin was better??? I’d rather take a chance for 1 more year, than be locked up with a guy like Drouin who actually did have attitude and entitlement issues.
id rather pay him than old guys. The Alzner contract is certifiable insanity. The Sava f deal is better, but it’s for a mediocre player. I would have like to see what KK does at the same age as Suzuki. I’d gladly have not signed Hoffman - who shouldn’t have been signed until KK was - and paid Kk more.
The Drouin trade was probably Bergevin’s biggest mistake as it’s impact will resonate through the organization far longer than the unfortunate Alzner contract. I would have liked to see KK with the Habs for years but Kk not agreeing to a contract has nothing to do with the Hoffman signing. Since the cap system was established ufa’s get paid first and more and Rfa’s get less. The Hurricanes leveraged the CBA to get KK but had to wildly over pay to do it. Good for them. May De Angelo wreck their room, may their goaltending be porous and may Kk be their leading scorer with 45 points.
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14 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said:
He needed to match, he didn’t. Than he overpaid for Dvorak, when everyone knows that next year’s draft is supposed to be hood and deep, and the following year is also very good. So now we get to ensure we are a bubble team, but one that probably doesn’t make the playoffs.
I can see KK breaking out and us again moving a young player and overpaying for am average player who has probably reached his peak, or is pretty close to it.
He didn’t need to match. He should not have matched. He did not match. Paying over 6 million/ year for KK is madness.
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On 8/8/2021 at 6:04 PM, alfredoh2009 said:
first time I listen in, now I regret not doing it before: good show! 🏆
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.
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1 hour ago, Neech said:
Danault consistently drives possession against the other team's best players, and is an underrated passer who can chip in 40 points over a full year. He is a truly elite shutdown centre while not being a minus on offense, which in my opinion is more valuable positionally than a middle-6 wing and merits 2nd line money. The C position has gone from a strength to a weakness unless we make a major addition, Suzuki and KK will no longer be sheltered.
True, but LA is very soon( season after next) going to be paying their no offence 3rd line center $5.5 per year. That’s a big tab in a hard cap system. I would have loved for the Habs to re-sign Danault but not at that price.
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2 hours ago, Neech said:
I'd rather pay Danault that money over the next six years than Gallagher or Anderson.
I don’t want to be rude, so all I can say is that’s a seriously misguided thought. Gallagher and Anderson will provide far more value. If Danault was a reliable 15-20 goal scorer instead of a guy who often looked like he couldn’t score into an empty net, I would have been fine with the Canadiens re-signing him at that price. LA will be regretting that contact sooner rather than later.
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2 hours ago, Habsfan89 said:
Wonder if we offer Tampa Drouin and a 2nd for Sergachev they would accept it lol😹😂😹
They might accept a 1st (next years draft) and a second if we kept Drouin
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2 hours ago, dlbalr said:
That's the public commentary and I'm sure that's the plan but when you go under the knife that many times for the same injury, the third one isn't going to magically fix everything. When his best attribute is his shot, that many surgeries is a giant red flag, regardless of what specialist did the last one. It's not like he played well after coming back from the last one either; he struggled considerably.
The only reason I suggested Drouin in trade because of the risk/ reward. Getting Tarasenko is a risk but Drouin’s value has to be at an all time low as well.
Oct. 26, Habs vs Kraken, 10 PM
in Habs & Hockey Talk
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The way things are going this looks like it might be a SEASON summary😢