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    Game#71 Thurs: March 14 2019 Habs vs Islanders 7:00

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    5 hours ago, JoeLassister said:

    15-1-0-0  if we include the GSP vs Diaz fight back in 2013 at the Bell Centre.

     

    I was there as well  :quebec: Little did I know at the time how long the actual whole event was, double fisting $12 beers x approximately 6 hours = I don't want to know what I spent that night

     

    If I was to guess my all time record watching the Habs I would say 7-2-1 at the Bell Center and 1-3 on the road. Not as good as you but I "Ole" the best I can

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    Deadline Day Discussion

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    20 minutes ago, Neech said:

     

    Will Domi be looking at the 8M range if he finishes with 70+ points?  I wonder if Bergevin will try to extend him this summer or wait till the next.

     

    I think that Bergevin is very value oriented, so if that means locking Domi up soon at a salary that is reflective his career now, or if it means waiting to see some production from him into next season, or if he waits till Domi is RFA, he will do whatever seems like the best deal at the time. It also falls on the shoulders of Domi's agent and his expectations. 

    2018-19 NHL General Discussion Thread

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    The Athletic just released a poll of 198 NHL players on a variety of topics. https://theathletic.com/840226/2019/02/28/the-2019-nhl-poll-best-player-most-overrated-players-weigh-in-on-the-best-and-worst-in-the-game/

     

    Best All-Around Player:

    Crosby - 48%

    McDavid - 25%

    Bergeron - 11%

    Barkov and Kucherov - 4%

     

    Game 7 of the Stanley Cup final — who do you want starting in goal?

    Price - 28%

    Fleury - 16%

    Vasilevsky - 15%

    Quick - 7%

    Holtby - 6%

     

    Who is the most underrated player in the NHL?

    Barkov - 26%

    Backstrom and Point - 8%

    Spurgeon - 6%

    Giordano - 5%

     

    Who is the most overrated player in the NHL?

    PK Subban - 23%

    Laine - 9%

    Ekbad - 6%

    Phaneuf and Erik Karlsson - 4%

     

    Which coach, aside from your own, would you most want to play for?

    Cooper and Gallant - 23%

    Trotz - 11%

    Maurice and Tortorella - 6%

     

    Which coach, aside from your own, would you not want to play for?

    Tortorella - 30%

    Hitchcock - 28%

    Babcock - 15%

    Carlyle - 11%

    Boucher - 3%

     

    What is the most fun city to visit on the road?

    Las Vegas - 26%

    Nasville - 19%

    Chicago - 13%

    Vancouver - 12%

    New York - 10%

     

    What is the worst city to visit on the road

    Winnipeg - 38%

    Buffalo - 15%

    Ottawa - 12%

    Edmonton - 8%

    Raleigh - 5%

     

    Which team has the best fans?

    Golden Knights - 28%

    Habs - 18%

    Preds - 11%

    Jets - 8%

    Hawks - 7%

     

    Which team has the worst fans?

    Panthers - 48%

    Coyotes - 18%

    Canes - 12%

    Flyers - 6%

    Isles - 3%

     

    Should the NHL’s current playoff format be changed?

    Yes - 60%

    No - 40

     

    Should NHL players play in the Olympics?

    Yes - 99%

    No - 1%

     

     

    My noteworthy takeaways from that poll include:

     

    *Price still being viewed as the best goalie in the world by his peers

    *Habs fans have been knocked off their perch as the best, I can agree with that based on what we've seen so far from Vegas. But let's see how they are after a few losing seasons

    *Subban is the most overrated player in the league 

     

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    Habs vs Wings 730pm

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    11 hours ago, xXx..CK..xXx said:

    It took me 59 minutes to realize Zadina was playing this game. 

     

    I thought he played okay, he found some open ice a few times but the puck didn't find him. My favorite part was when he took a wrister from the top of the circle and Price's glove was already there waiting for it, and then the look on Zadina's face. 

     

    On another note, Weber looks bad out there, he has to be playing through an injury. As we've seen before, this is what he does

    Will there be trade deadline moves in 2019?

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    Was hoping Bergevin would surprise us with a blockbuster. I didn't want a pure rental, although acquiring Nyquist for a 2nd rounder would have been easy to swallow. I had a hunch that whoever got Stone was going to also sign him to an extension, and I think I would have been okay sending one of our best prospects to make that deal. I would have liked Simmonds as well but only if he resigned. Other than that, not much out there that I feel we missed out on. It's too bad there weren't any high end LD available that we could have got our hands on

    Domi > Galchenyuk

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    2 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

    Domi has slowed down from his early torrid pace, but honestly, he remains an upgrade. First, coaches feel they can actually play him at C. Right away that's a win. Second, he brings a much more complete game, including playmaking. And third, he hustles and competes every night. Unless Galy really pulls ahead of him offensively, we win that trade.

     

    Bergevin used to drone on about 'attitude' - and his cluelessness on this was revealed when he prioritized trading Subban, who was definitely not the problem - but the real issue may have been that we had two key cogs whom we expected to be leaders driving the offence (Patches and Galy ) who were streaky, erratic players by nature. Guys like Domi and Tatar are not elite, but they are *reliable* and low-drama players who perform night in and night out. The result is a better overall team.

     

    Another post, another Subban reference, Habs must be on a losing streak. 

     

    "They are reliable and low drama players who perform night in and night out. The result is a better overall team". 

     

    That sounds sort of like the reason why I prefer Weber ?

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    Feb. 16, Habs vs Lightning, 7 PM

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    4 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

     

    Good analysis! The sky is not falling, no. But of course three losses spark anxiety. 

     

    I'm less optimistic about the boldfaced part. I heard (and made) exactly the same sort of comments around the early phases of the Gainey rebuild, and again the exact same when we had studs like PK and Patches coming up. In fact, similar things were said around 1996 when players such as Koivu, Tucker, Valeri Bure, etc., were emerging. After 25 years of this, and especially after having seen Price's peak years squandered by incompetent GMing, I'm done buying into these hypotheticals. Let's hope the Habs do manage to build a genuine contender for once, but I'm tired of swallowing this kind of anticipatory Kool Aid. I'll believe it when I see it - not before.

     

    I don't understand the "squandering" of Price's prime, you say that as if we would have kept Subban and Pacioretty the Habs would have hoisted cup #25 already. "Incompetent GMing" didn't give those players away, they were traded for similar value players. The only difference between now and then, is that there is a crop of high end young roster players and prospects in the system. Habs still have prime Price, Weber is showing no signs of slowing down, Petry is having a career year, and their best forwards are all between 18-26. Add in Suzuki, Poeling, Brook, Romanov pushing for a spot and the cap space available to add an elite UFA if they want. This is not the same situation as any of the previous times you've mentioned. 

    Permanent Trade Proposal Thread

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    7 hours ago, Commandant said:

     

    Ok, without even debating the PK/Weber trade (which i still say his a loss cause of age).  here are some losses.

     

    - The 2017 trade deadline... Andrighetto for Martinsen, Draft picks for Ott and Dwight King.   (Didn't address team needs, gave away assets for players who didn't add to the team's offense), minor loss

    - Andrew Shaw for 2 second rounders (Alex DeBrincat and Chad Krys).  I like Shaw but he overpaid. 

    - Acquired Stefan Matteau, traded Devante Smith-Pelley (small loss, but a loss)

    - acquired Parenteau and a fifth for Briere (Briere had 1 year left on his deal, Parenteau had 2, we ended up buying out Parenteau's second year). 

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    Overall he wins more than he loses, but no one is perfect and those are losses IMO.

     

    I don't understand how someone can consider a trade a loss based on age, especially less than 4 years in difference. Players start to decline at different ages and Weber hasn't at all yet, and I haven't watched enough of Subban to know if he is, but judging by his production this year he certainly might be. Not to mention all the other reasons I believe the trade was a win, but yes no need to rehash that old debate. 

     

    The other trades you mentioned are very minor losses, and hardly worth mentioning when compared to the robbery he committed on his wins.

    Trade Deadline Planning

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    On 2/9/2019 at 1:48 AM, illWill said:

    Moves I'd like to see happen but would settle for just one of them:

     

    Trade some high end futures for a top 4 LD under team control. 

     

    Add a 4th line center. I was hoping for Boyle but oh well. 

     

    Acquire a top 6 RW. There are plenty available so it is a buyer's market. The price on a rental should be low so perhaps we can get a Vanek type deal. 

     

    If Weise is considered a top 6 RW, then that's 2 of my 3 wishes granted already ?

    Trade Deadline Planning

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    Moves I'd like to see happen but would settle for just one of them:

     

    Trade some high end futures for a top 4 LD under team control. 

     

    Add a 4th line center. I was hoping for Boyle but oh well. 

     

    Acquire a top 6 RW. There are plenty available so it is a buyer's market. The price on a rental should be low so perhaps we can get a Vanek type deal. 

    13th Annual Regular season Prediction Contest

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    This thread is a good read, Habs are on pace for 100 points after 2/3rds of the season. Lots of hockey left but it is safe to say that this team has exceeded most fan's expectations. Lots has gone right so far in terms of health, rebounding, and development, so here's to hoping that continues and they can make some noise if they make the playoffs. 

     

     

     

     

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    If you could retire ONE more Habs number - whose would it be?

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    #79

     

    I think any player who plays their entire career with one team and was one of the best players, if not the best player on that team for said career, deserves to have their jersey raised. And I don't think it should matter that Montreal had such high standards before, this is a new era. There are 5 times as many teams now than there were for the first half of Montreal's existence. 

    Trade Deadline Planning

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    26 minutes ago, TurdBurglar said:

    Only remote possibility of something like that working is if we are throwing in the picks, not Edmonton. Or swap Alzner for Hudson.  Still don’t want to get strapped for 4 more years of Lucic.  

     

    i am intrigued in the rumours of Hamilton being available in Carolina.  Only reservation is why is everyone so eager to trade him away.

     

    An Alzner for Lucic swap only handcuffs us for one extra year and 1.375m against the cap. I would rather have Lucic on the roster than Alzner but I wouldn't try making this move unless Edmonton threw in something good to make up for the difference in salary and term. 

     

    Hamilton would not and should not be a target for us, he is a right shot dman and we need lefties. I don't think I even need to bring up the perceived attitude and character aspects. It bugs me that it seems that every time Montreal has a positional need, those players aren't available. And when they are strong in a certain position, there are an abundance of those players available. One of these years the supply and demand have to line up with what we are trying to accomplish. 

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