Habs77

Sorry Koz... but at some point you're gonna have let go of this fantasy that Bulis belongs on the 1st line. He's a 2nd-3rd liner... and as I said I think the 3rd line has become more important than the 2nd line in today's NHL. Which is why I want Bulis there, it's where he can help the team most IMO. This team is currently so lacking in high-end talent that Bulis found his way to the top line... that doesn't mean he belongs there. He does have offensive skills, but lacks the finish of a 1st liner... that's the bottom line. Also, the 1st line is Koivu's line. Audette will eventually be replaced bu Perezhogin... these two would need some size/grit on that line to complete the package. Bulis - although he isn't small - doesn't fit the bill there either. I like Bulis a lot, but I want us to finally have a dangerous yet defensively responsible 3rd line... he's a perfect fit.

You guys see Nieuwendyk be helped off the bench after the OT winner?... it was symbolic of what this game meant. NJ put everything they had into tonight... they knew tonight was their last best chance to make it to the Finals. By winning tonight the Sens have won the series. Who would have thought Roger Nielsen would be the guy to decide the series... it's his speech that finally got Ottawa going, and saving Martin's job in the process. P.S. And I'm doubly happy since I needed Ottawa to win for me to have a shot at winning the playoff pool. :-^

Well last time I checked Vladdy will decide whether he signs or not... the Expos or MLB have no say in the matter. But if the Expos are in the hunt and I were Vladdy, I'd accept a 1-year deal just so the club isn't forced to trade me at the deadline and I can help the Xpos make it this year. In the end it's all up to Vlad.

Welcome aboard Westcoast...

I'd favor getting a 2nd mid 1st rounder than trading up... I'd be happy with Phaneuf/Bernier

If Juneau & Dackell go - either way they soon will - what will our 3rd line look like? Well Kilger has played centre much more than Bulis... and Bulis has said he really prefered playing wing where he could use his speed more. So why not simply do: Bulis-Kilger-Sundstrom ? Would make more sense to me... and Kilger would have the size AND speed to cover the bigger centers in the East. Due to Kilger's chronic lack of aggression I wouldn't miss his presence in the corners much either. And the fact we have 2 natural centers on that line is always nice when our guys gets thrown out the faceoff circle. My only concern about Kilger is does he have the required defensive awareness to cover the opposition's top line. P.S. If I were to convert anyone to centre, it would be Hossa. He too, like Bulis, is a natural center, and to me he seems completely out of place at LW... he was completely invisible when given regular duty on the 2nd line for the last 15 games while Ribeiro & Zednik were lighting it up. He also doesn't have that "edge" I like my wingers to have, his more passive style is perfect for the center... he'd be much better if he went back there. And he's VERY good defensively, which I did notice during his offensive no-show to end the season. Bulis - Hossa - Sundstrom or even Bulis - Hossa - Ward would be a good 3rd line... capable of being an offensive threat as well as responsible defensively. These days the 3rd line (or "shut down line") is more important than the 2nd line, which is why I favor upgrading it. Look at Madden's line for NJ... single-handedly shutting down the opposition's top line AND producing most of the offense at the same time. That's the kind of 3rd line we need here given how Koivu's line simply can't handle the other #1 lines head to head. What's left for the top 2 lines you will ask? Ryder - Koivu - Audette Zednik - Ribeiro - Ward Not much I know, which is why I wouldn't mind going with Kilger for now... then Hossa eventually as 3rd line center. As Perezhogin, Higgins, & whoever we pick this year come up our top 2 lines will look better and better but our 3rd line would be set... and to me the 3rd line, the goalie, and special teams are the key to winning in today's NHL. Feel free to discuss

For next year I see: - more offense: Hossa/Ribs instead of Gilmour/Petrov, Audette/Perreault/Czerk can only go up from here (if they're still here), Koivu/Zed/Bulis in same ballpark. - better defense: Souray/Komi/Hainsey? for whole year over Traverse/Dykhuis/Breezer - improved grit: Dwyer,Souray,Komi,healthy Rivet,Ward... Hossa also improves size on top lines. A healthy McKay could help more there too (compared to how much he helped last year, not hard to improve on that). - better goaltending: Theo just has to be. - better team chemistry: CJ coach from start of year takes control of team, a little less over-crowded with Gilmour/Petrov gone (hopefully more will go before start of year), unhappy Hackett gone, Breezer gone. - better coaching from the start of the season: CJ's first training camp to make team his own. So I see improvement in all areas... And yet that doesn't mean we'll make the playoffs, we definitely can... but we can definitely miss out too. Atlanta/NYR are two more teams that should contend for the playoffs and should be much improved over this year... plus all the playoff teams. So who knows if we'll make the playoffs, but we will be a better team next year. Then again... if we dump some of our depth to save $$ and then unlike last year the injury bug hits a top player like Koivu for example, well good luck chum. That's why they play the games, in the end anything can happen... just look at the Ducks/Wild. :ghg:

No problem, welcome aboard. As for the Perreault/Ribeiro debate... one more thing I'd like to mention is that although teams aren't exactly looking to add to their payroll in the present environment, since Perreault's contract expires before the new CBA it actually makes him more attractive to other teams IMO. I hope both Juneau (2M) & Perreault (3M) are dealt... but what are the chances of that. That would be 5M gone right there, plus Breezer's 4M, we still don't know if Czerkawski (2.6M) will be back either... although I'm hearing not. We'd be right about at the 40-42M payroll level GG wants. That'll depend on how much he have to pay on potential buyouts, and if we'll end up dealing some of them for equally pricey players (ex: Tverdovsky makes 3.6M... not much saved from Breezer's 4M) Bouillon might not be re-signed at all. Audette will probably dictate whether we have a good year or bad, if he can play 100% like he did before the injury then we're ok, but if he stinks like last year again... oh boy. He still has 2 years left on his contract... Perezhogin set to take his place when he's ready. This will another "in between" year for the Habs, but not as ugly than last year IMO. I'll start up that discussion on another thread.

Well I was refering to guys we would pick if we trade up to the 1-3 pick... Bernier wouldn't apply there. What I would like is for us to aquire another first rounder on top of the 10th we currently have.. so we could pick Bernier and a guys like Phaneuf for example. I rather have two mid first rounders than one top 3 pick. Two 1st rounders and two 2nd rounders in a deep draft would really give our prospect depth a shot in the arm... :/)

Since I haven't seen any of the prospect play with my own eyes I can't have a real opinion on who we should draft and whether it's really worth it to trade up. I can just go by the numerous reports & rankings available on the web, and frankly that's about as effective as driving with your eyes closed. Wherever we pick & whoever we pick, hopefully he turns out well... and isn't one of the requisite busts that exist in every draft.

Not a bad week for me... I had M. Shumacher, Button, JV, and Ferrari. :-^ If not for the bad luck of a 20 second ruined pit stop for Barichello he would have finished 2nd, and if JV's car hadn't stalled during hte 2nd pit stop he had 5th place in the bag. It could have have been a nearly perfect week, but it was still pretty successful.... and now, a 2 week wait for the next race :zzz:

So after Lucas seeing corruption rob him of his title in Germany, another champion fighting out of Quebec :que: got screwed. This time the best the bought/prejudiced judges could do for their local stud was give him a draw he didn';t deserve... this sport makes me :puke: Thankfully Lucas & Dorin have been making some decent $$$ lately and both have the opportunity to have a rematch to make things right. Personally I could never be a boxer, the shear frustration of having a few corrupt old geezers tell me I lost a fight I clearly won would drive me absolutetly nuts Anybody who knows anything about boxing knows our 2 guys are still the Champs :king:

Samsonov is damaged goods and that's why Boston is ready to deal him... he has a nasty wrist injury, and that type of injury is something you want to stay away from. Pronger missed a year, Souray has been in limbo forever, Rivet has had his bad wrist for years now... I wouldn't do that deal if I were Florida. Moreover Boston doesn't need to make the deal with Florida, as Fleury likely won't be taken 1st or 2nd... I'd say 3-6. We know Florida doesn't need Fleury with Luongo in their net, and if for example the Habs would manage to trade up they wouldn't take him either. Boston must be afraid a team interested in Fleury might get Florida's pick, so might aswell go after it themselves to be sure. I hope they don't get him, I don't want Boston having one of the many "local guy" quebecer goalies :que: who always come up big against the Habs. :hlogo: And as for the Habs trading up, I don't care which pick they'd potentially trade up to as long as we get Staal/Horton... so our center position would be set for the future. :-^

More on Gainey and how his contract with the Stars expires in June... guess he'd wait 'til after his contract expires before announcing his eventual taking over of the GM duties in Montreal if the rumors are true. http://www.rds.ca/cgi-bin/nouvelles?site=r...on&sport=#80464 We'll have to be patient.. :z P.S. Think Martin will keep his job if Ottawa is bounced by NJ, especially the way they've come out with no emotion so far? I had heard AS would go after if he became available, even if he had just signed CJ.... but will AS still be GM come June? Ahh, so many unknowns... :?- [Edited on 17-5-03 by Habs77]

You're talking like it's not already the case... since CJ has come in Koivu's line HAS been playing the top lines already. I'm not crazy about it either, but instead of having a Juneau-lead 3rd defensive line with nobody to cover... perhaps Perreault could benefit from lesser coverage and provide offense from the 3rd line like we haven't seen in years. Like I said, Sundstrom is a defensive specialist who can also produce offensively... then you could have Ward to add some size to that line. Like I said... it's only for 1 year, and it's the safest way to go given our other options IMO. Lineup could look like this for next year: (not great, but realistic) Bulis-Koivu-Audette Hossa-Ribeiro-Zednik Sundstrom-Perreault-Ward Dwyer-Kilger-McKay [Edited on 17-5-03 by Habs77]

If Juneau were to be dumped, Perreault would centre the 3rd line. Unlike MT, CJ likes sending out Koivu vs. the opponent's #1 line... so having a checking line is not as critical. And Perreault would be playing with capable defensive players like Sundstrom. I'd still prefer to have one, but for one year I could live with Koivu/Ribs/Perreault as the top 3 centers. If Ribs can't cut it, or if an injury occurs, we'd still have 2 centers capable of playing the top 2 lines. And someone like Kilger could come up and centre the 3rd line if that happens (and Gratton comes up to center 4th line). As for the PK in Juneau's absence (Dackell gone too btw)... we still have Sundstrom, Bulis, Kilger, Hossa who can play that well... and CJ also likes using the Koivu/Zednik combo on PK. Like I said, which ever way we go our center situation will :puke: next year. P.S. If we trade up and grab Staal/Horton in the draft... we'll be set at center: Koivu-Higgins-Staal/Horton. That would be nice, and obviously that will mean no Perreault or Ribeiro in our future. :-^

Here's the way I see it. There are different ways of looking at it: - money: We have a team that has to cut payroll with the new CBA coming up, Perreault costs 3M per while Ribeiro makes under 1M. - trade value: That's a tough one, one is still unproven & the other has shown his limitations, costs more and will be a pending UFA.... in terms of value I'd tend to hang on to the one who's value is more likely to appreciate with time: the kid. - future plans: Which one fits in our future plans?... the answer is neither. Koivu is our #1 center, Higgins who is own the way will more likely be given a #2 role... I doubt we'll give him #3 duty to try and contain the opponent's top line right off the bat. The 3rd centre (besides Koivu & Higgins)will need to be someone who can handle the defensive role... Perreault & Ribs are both offensive minded and neither could fill that role. So keeping Perreault is the safer short term solution... whereas by keeping Ribs you give him the opportunity to surprise you and stick with the team, or at the very least by playing on the 2nd line all year his numbers will go up and so will his trade value if you want to trade him later. :hlogo: So since I don't want to re-sign Perreault after this year, he costs 3M per & we have a new CBA on the way, I'd trade him. With teams more money conscious after the new CBA, cheap kids like Ribeiro will be much more attractive on the trade market.... plus as I said he'll also have gained value by playing regularly for a whole year for the 1st time. If I trade one, I trade Perreault. But I'd look at keeping both and dumping Juneau instead... he has a bad back, provides ZERO offense and even his defensive ability is going downhill fast. And he costs 2M, he's in the last year of his contract too. Which ever way we go... the center position will be a weak link next year. Nothing new there.

Villeneuve ends up qualifying 12th... But the crafty veteran that he is, went off the track just a little a few times which put dirt on the track... so the guy following him qualified 17th :-^ way to Jacques! :/)

You too? hehe By the time the media starts talking about F1 every 2 weeks it's too late to make any changes and I'm screwed. 2 weeks between races is just too long to garner any sustained interest in the pool... makes me wanna :puke: It just happens I didn't want to change anything, so I got lucky. And technically shouldn't a discussion about a pool be in the "other" section? :contract: I have a feeling I'll be #1 in the pool on monday morning :king:

He was offered 2 years ago when Kovalchuck was the #1 pick... not last year, that I know of anyway. Not for the #1 pick, since Florida has Luongo of course. I think the team would be better served waiting a year or two to see how Theo does the next year or two. By winning the Hart Theo is getting paid at a premium, and if any sort of salary cap comes with the new CBA in '04 Garon might become an economical alternative providing he shows he can be just as good. Theo would also get a better return than Garon IMO... Theo is more of a proven commodity at this point, and well the HArt speaks for itself. Well just a few months ago he cleared waivers... sure his value has risen since, but how much his trade value has risen I'm not sure. As I said Florida doesn't need Garon in the least.... and if puck7x is saying a Florida scout was at the Bulldogs game the other night we need to look there for the "prospect' that would be included in the deal. Probably Hossa or Hainsey... I doubt Ryder has that much value, and I gotta believe Komisarek is simply off-limits. With the 10th pick I'd take the best available guy... and I'd try to get a third 1st rounder by packaging our two 2nd rounders. Three 1st rounders in the deepest draft in recent memory would be a nice way for AS to redeem himself... or at least try to :-^

3 shutouts in a row... nice But shutouts are a team stat to me... not just the goalie. Obviously Giggy has been great but the team in front of him have been solid since the 2nd half. I'll be watching the 4th game just to see if they can go a whole series without allowing a goal. Even after Minny's amazing run... talk about a rough way to end your year

This team won't be able to afford any help at the deadline.. they'll have to do it on their own. Their only shot at getting some help is if El Duque recovers fom surgery in time to help the team in late August... or in the playoffs if we make it that far. The biggest concern is that this is Vlady's last year on his contract :c< ... and if he refuses to sign an extension the team might be forced to trade him at the deadline... how ugly would that be. :nono: [Edited on 15-5-03 by Habs77]

Was apparently bought out by the Stars for his last season: - hopefully as with Robitaille we'll stay far away from him - another Gainey signing that didn't work out, just food for thought while Gainey rumors are swirling in Montreal. I'll still take Gainey over AS though... I rather have AS concentrate of scouting. [Edited on 14-5-03 by Habs77] [Edited on 17-5-03 by Habs77]

(goaltenders are not included): CENTRAL SCOUTING SERVICE - NORTH AMERICAN RANKING -- AS OF: MAY 13, 2003 FIRST ROUND PLAYER LEAGUE TEAM BIRTHDATE HEIGHT WEIGHT POS SHOT GP G A PTS PIM 1 STAAL, ERIC OHL PETERBOROUGH 1984-10-29 6' 3" 182 C L 66 39 59 98 36 2 BROWN, DUSTIN OHL GUELPH 1984-11-04 6' 0" 195 RW R 58 34 42 76 89 3 VANEK, THOMAS WCHA UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA 1984-01-19 6' 2" 208 LW R 37 24 27 51 48 4 HORTON, NATHAN OHL OSHAWA 1985-05-29 6' 2" 201 C R 54 33 35 68 111 5 GETZLAF, RYAN WHL CALGARY 1985-05-10 6' 2.5" 195 C R 70 29 39 68 121 6 COBURN, BRAYDON WHL PORTLAND 1985-02-27 6' 5" 205 D L 53 3 16 19 147 7 SUTER, RYAN USA US NAT'L U-18 1985-01-21 6' 1" 183 D L 47 8 19 27 114 8 PHANEUF, DION WHL RED DEER 1985-04-10 6' 2" 205 D L 71 16 14 30 185 9 PARISE, ZACH WCHA UNIVERSITY OF NORTH DAKOTA 1984-07-28 5' 11" 186 C L 34 25 32 57 32 10 FRITSCHE, DAN OHL SARNIA 1985-07-13 6' 1" 198 C R 61 32 39 71 79 11 BERNIER, STEVE QMJHL MONCTON 1985-03-31 6' 2.5" 233 RW R 71 49 52 101 90 12 STONE, RYAN WHL BRANDON 1985-03-20 6' 1" 199 C L 54 14 31 45 158 13 POULIOT, MARC-ANTOINE QMJHL RIMOUSKI 1985-05-22 6' 1" 188 C R 65 32 41 73 100 14 O'SULLIVAN, PATRICK OHL MISSISSAUGA 1985-02-01 5' 11" 190 C L 56 40 41 81 57 15 FEHR, ERIC WHL BRANDON 1985-09-07 6' 3" 187 RW R 70 26 29 55 76 16 KESLER, RYAN CCHA OHIO STATE 1984-08-31 6' 1.5" 195 C R 34 9 20 29 36 17 STUART, MARK WCHA COLORADO COLLEGE 1984-04-27 6' 1" 209 D L 32 3 14 17 77 18 KLEIN, KEVIN OHL TORONTO ST. MICHAEL'S 1984-12-13 6' 1" 187 D R 67 11 33 44 88 19 STEWART, ANTHONY OHL KINGSTON 1985-01-05 6' 1.5" 239 C/RW R 68 32 38 70 47 20 JESSIMAN, HUGH ECAC DARTMOUTH COLLEGE 1984-03-28 6' 4" 200 RW R 29 19 22 41 40 21 TAMBELLINI, JEFF CCHA UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN 1984-04-13 5' 11" 186 LW L 36 25 13 38 18 22 KREPS, KAMIL OHL BRAMPTON 1984-11-18 6' 1.5" 187 C R 53 19 42 61 12 23 LAPIERRE, MAXIM QMJHL MONTREAL 1985-03-29 6' 1.5" 174 C R 72 22 21 43 55 24 FILEWICH, JONATHAN WHL PRINCE GEORGE 1984-10-02 6' 2" 208 RW R 51 27 27 54 45 25 SEABROOK, BRENT WHL LETHBRIDGE 1985-04-20 6' 2.5" 220 D R 69 9 33 42 113 26 BERNIER, MARC-ANDRE QMJHL HALIFAX 1985-02-05 6' 3.5" 198 RW R 67 29 29 58 43 27 CARTER, JEFF OHL SAULT-STE-MARIE 1985-01-01 6' 3" 182 C R 61 35 36 71 55 28 BERGERON, PATRICE QMJHL ACADIE-BATHURST 1985-07-24 6' 0" 178 C R 70 23 50 73 62 29 HENNESSY, JOSHUA QMJHL QUEBEC 1985-02-07 6' 0" 180 C L 72 33 51 84 44 30 RICHARDS, MIKE OHL KITCHENER 1985-02-11 5' 11" 185 C L 67 37 50 87 99 SECOND ROUND PLAYER LEAGUE TEAM BIRTHDATE HEIGHT WEIGHT POS SHOT GP G A PTS PIM 31 EAVES, PATRICK H-EAST BOSTON COLLEGE 1984-05-01 5' 10.5" 173 RW R 13 10 7 17 29 32 URQUHART, CORY QMJHL MONTREAL 1984-10-01 6' 2" 195 C L 71 35 43 78 28 33 BELLE, SHAWN WHL TRI-CITY 1985-01-03 6' 1" 220 D L 66 7 14 21 79 34 BOYLE, BRIAN USHSE ST. SEBASTIAN'S 1984-12-18 6' 5.5" 222 C L 31 32 31 63 46 35 PERRY, COREY OHL LONDON 1985-05-16 6' 2" 184 RW R 67 25 53 78 145 36 LIFFITON, DAVID OHL PLYMOUTH 1984-10-18 6' 1.5" 201 D L 64 5 11 16 139 37 COLLITON, JEREMY WHL PRINCE ALBERT 1985-01-13 6' 2" 195 C R 58 20 28 48 76 38 BACKES, DAVID USHL LINCOLN 1984-05-01 6' 3" 192 C/RW R 57 28 41 69 126 39 BURNS, BRENT OHL BRAMPTON 1985-03-09 6' 4" 188 RW R 68 15 25 40 14 40 EGENER, MIKE WHL CALGARY 1984-09-26 6' 3.5" 195 D L 40 2 8 10 210 41 RICHMOND, DANNY CCHA UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN 1984-08-01 6' 0" 175 D L 36 3 18 21 44 42 WEBER, SHEA WHL KELOWNA 1985-08-14 6' 3" 190 D R 70 2 16 18 167 43 FRASER, COLIN WHL RED DEER 1985-01-28 6' 0.5" 175 C L 69 15 37 52 192 44 PICARD, ALEXANDRE QMJHL HALIFAX 1985-07-05 6' 2" 214 D L 71 4 30 34 64 45 MEYER, STEFAN WHL MEDICINE HAT 1985-07-20 6' 1.5" 194 LW L 70 36 16 52 90 46 BOLDUC, ALEXANDRE QMJHL ROUYN NORANDA 1985-06-26 6' 1" 178 C L 66 14 29 43 131 47 TARDIF, JAMIE OHL PETERBOROUGH 1985-01-23 6' 0" 207 RW R 68 31 29 60 32 48 OULAHEN, RYAN OHL BRAMPTON 1985-03-26 6' 0.5" 180 C L 61 21 22 43 6 49 STEHLIK, RICHARD QMJHL SHERBROOKE 1984-06-22 6' 4" 245 D L 43 8 16 24 105 50 MARTIN, LOUIS PHILIPPE QMJHL BAIE COMEAU 1984-10-02 5' 11.5" 172 RW R 65 23 53 76 63 51 SMABY, MATT USHSW SHATTUCK-ST. MARY'S 1984-10-14 6' 4.5" 202 D L 57 3 20 23 114 52 VOROSHNIN, PAVEL OHL MISSISSAUGA 1984-03-23 6' 2.5" 175 D L 68 9 27 36 81 53 HYNES, SHANE ECAC CORNELL UNIVERSITY 1983-11-07 6' 3" 210 RW R 25 8 8 16 32 54 DESBIENS, GUILLAUME QMJHL ROUYN NORANDA 1985-04-20 6' 2" 190 RW L 64 15 18 33 233 55 POTULNY, RYAN USHL LINCOLN 1984-09-05 6' 0" 190 C L 54 35 43 78 18 56 DUPUIS, PHILIPPE QMJHL HULL 1985-04-24 6' 0" 192 C R 68 22 34 56 89 57 DAWSON, AARON OHL PETERBOROUGH 1985-03-11 6' 4.5" 220 D L 65 1 8 9 76 58 MCDONALD, COLIN EJHL NEW ENGLAND 1984-09-30 6' 2" 190 RW R 34 28 30 58 51 59 BISSONNETTE, PAUL OHL SAGINAW 1985-03-11 6' 2.5" 211 D L 67 7 16 23 57 60 DOHERTY, JOHN USHSE PHILLIPS-ANDOVER 1984-03-25 6' 4" 213 D R 24 12 12 24 40 THIRD ROUND PLAYER LEAGUE TEAM BIRTHDATE HEIGHT WEIGHT POS SHOT GP G A PTS PIM 61 LOCKE, COREY OHL OTTAWA 1984-05-08 5' 8.5" 175 C L 66 63 88 151 83 62 MCCUTCHEON, MARK EJHL NEW ENGLAND 1984-05-21 6' 0" 177 C R 35 27 22 49 76 63 REDIKER, FRANK OHL WINDSOR 1985-03-15 6' 1" 200 D L 51 8 8 16 120 64 SHARROW, JAMES QMJHL HALIFAX 1985-01-31 6' 2.5" 170 D R 70 2 14 16 54 65 CROMBEEN, BRANDON OHL BARRIE 1985-07-10 6' 1.5" 200 RW R 63 22 24 46 133 66 CARLE, MATTHEW USHL RIVER CITY 1984-09-25 6' 0" 182 D L 59 12 30 42 98 67 WILLIAMS, JEREMY WHL SWIFT CURRENT 1984-01-26 5' 10.5" 184 C R 72 41 52 93 117 68 VRANA, PETR QMJHL HALIFAX 1985-03-29 5' 10" 174 LW L 72 37 46 83 32 69 MOORE, GREG H-EAST UNIVERSITY OF MAINE 1984-03-26 6' 0.5" 206 RW R 30 9 6 15 10 70 MACARTHUR, CLARKE WHL MEDICINE HAT 1985-04-06 5' 11.5" 180 LW L 70 23 52 75 104 71 SAUNDERS, NATHAN QMJHL MONCTON 1985-04-25 6' 3.5" 210 D R 69 1 13 14 241 72 CARCILLO, DANIEL OHL SARNIA 1985-01-28 5' 11" 183 LW L 68 29 37 66 157 73 REDENBACH, TYLER WHL SWIFT CURRENT 1984-09-25 5' 11" 184 C/LW L 60 17 51 68 35 74 MITCHELL, JOHN OHL PLYMOUTH 1985-01-22 6' 1" 182 C L 68 18 37 55 31 75 VANNELLI, MICHAEL USHL SIOUX FALLS 1983-10-02 6' 2" 190 D R 60 13 34 47 88 76 IRMEN, DANNY USHL LINCOLN 1984-09-06 6' 0" 182 C R 45 21 34 55 78 77 RICHARDSON, BRAD OHL OWEN SOUND 1985-02-04 5' 11" 178 C L 67 27 40 67 54 78 GERVAIS, BRUNO QMJHL ACADIE-BATHURST 1984-10-03 6' 0" 188 D R 72 22 28 50 73 79 ROCHE, KEN USHSE ST. SEBASTIAN'S 1984-01-02 5' 11" 185 C L 29 25 28 53 16 80 PEMBERTON, JAMES H-EAST PROVIDENCE COLLEGE 1983-10-02 6' 4" 215 D R 31 2 9 11 18 81 FITZGERALD, ZACH WHL SEATTLE 1985-06-16 6' 2" 205 D L 64 8 14 22 232 82 MORROW, THOMAS USHL DES MOINES 1983-10-21 6' 6" 198 D L 59 2 9 11 104 83 THOMPSON, NATE WHL SEATTLE 1984-10-05 6' 0" 190 C L 61 10 24 34 48 84 BOLDUC, JEAN-MICHEL QMJHL QUEBEC 1985-02-27 6' 4" 190 D L 68 5 14 19 164 85 GUYER, GINO WCHA UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA 1983-10-14 5' 10" 184 C L 33 10 9 19 8 86 SHAW, EVAN QMJHL QUEBEC 1984-03-24 6' 2" 202 D L 26 1 3 4 24 87 STEWART, DANNY QMJHL RIMOUSKI 1985-04-23 5' 11.5" 173 LW L 65 19 21 40 144 88 JACQUES, JEAN-FRANCOIS QMJHL BAIE COMEAU 1985-04-29 6' 3.5" 217 LW L 67 12 21 33 123 89 WERNER, STEPHEN H-EAST MASS-AMHERST 1984-08-08 6' 0" 197 RW R 34 13 21 34 4 90 POTTER, COREY CCHA MICHIGAN STATE 1984-01-05 6' 2" 183 D R 32 4 3 7 26 FOURTH ROUND PLAYER LEAGUE TEAM BIRTHDATE HEIGHT WEIGHT POS SHOT GP G A PTS PIM 91 SVAGROVSKY, DAVID WHL SEATTLE 1984-12-21 6' 3" 205 RW R 68 17 25 42 47 92 DIXON, STEPHEN QMJHL CAPE BRETON 1985-09-07 5' 11.5" 185 C L 72 28 42 70 54 93 LEHUN, JONATHAN WCHA ST. CLOUD STATE 1984-02-22 6' 0" 170 C L 31 7 7 14 18 94 DONALLY, RYAN OHL WINDSOR 1985-02-04 6' 4" 210 LW L 65 11 15 26 108 95 96 HOFFMANN, JAMIE USHL DES MOINES 1984-08-20 6' 2" 195 C R 60 14 25 39 120 97 ROBERTSON, JOSH USHSE PROCTOR 1984-08-25 5' 11" 186 C R 34 37 44 81 38 98 VIGILANTE, JOHN OHL PLYMOUTH 1985-05-24 5' 11" 180 C/LW L 65 15 24 39 31 99 JARMAN, KEVIN OPJRA STOUFFVILLE 1985-03-12 6' 0" 184 LW L 46 43 36 79 51 100 MOULSON, MATT ECAC CORNELL UNIVERSITY 1983-11-01 6' 1" 195 LW L 26 12 8 20 18 101 COOK, TIM USHL RIVER CITY 1984-03-13 6' 4" 200 D R 59 3 12 15 62 102 103 MILLER, ANDREW USHL RIVER CITY 1984-02-17 6' 2" 165 LW L 49 14 11 25 26 104 MARJAMAKI, MASI WHL RED DEER 1985-01-16 6' 1.5" 184 LW L 65 15 20 35 56 105 HRDEL, ZBYNEK QMJHL RIMOUSKI 1985-08-19 6' 2" 194 C R 65 10 14 24 131 106 LANDOLT, SHAUN WHL CALGARY 1984-10-02 6' 1" 202 RW R 75 15 25 40 71 107 108 WATHIER, FRANCIS QMJHL HULL 1984-12-07 6' 3" 198 LW L 72 9 18 27 143 109 BROWNLEE, CHAD BCHL VERNON 1984-07-12 6' 2" 184 D R 58 8 16 24 63 110 GRAVEL, MATHIEU QMJHL SHAWINIGAN 1984-10-19 6' 3.5" 195 LW L 72 24 26 50 60 111 MORIN, TRAVIS USHL CHICAGO 1984-01-09 6' 1" 170 C L 60 21 26 47 46 112 LABRECQUE, GUILLAUME QMJHL HULL 1985-06-13 5' 11" 185 C R 71 17 31 48 27 113 FLOOD, MARK OHL PETERBOROUGH 1984-09-29 6' 0.5" 176 D R 68 5 24 29 18 114 BRODZIAK, KYLE WHL MOOSE JAW 1984-05-25 6' 1" 191 C R 72 32 30 62 84 115 MELANSON, MATHIEU QMJHL CHICOUTIMI 1985-08-31 6' 0.5" 185 LW L 69 20 27 47 62 116 O'BYRNE, RYAN BCHL NANAIMO 1984-07-19 6' 5" 210 D R 41 5 10 15 118 117 RODNEY, BRYAN OHL KINGSTON 1984-04-22 5' 11.5" 193 D L 67 8 52 60 60 118 HISEY, ROB OHL ERIE 1984-09-24 5' 9" 173 C L 73 28 46 74 56 119 LABELLE, OLIVIER QMJHL HULL 1985-07-15 5' 11" 188 RW R 69 16 18 34 86 120 MORRIS, TY AJHL ST. ALBERT 1984-02-02 6' 1" 200 LW L 58 28 54 82 226 FIFTH ROUND PLAYER LEAGUE TEAM BIRTHDATE HEIGHT WEIGHT POS SHOT GP G A PTS PIM 121 DAWES, NIGEL WHL KOOTENAY 1985-02-09 5' 7.5" 170 LW L 72 47 45 92 59 122 TRAVIS, DAN USHSE DEERFIELD ACADEMY 1983-11-26 6' 3" 220 RW R 25 16 27 43 30 123 KOZAK, RICK WHL BRANDON 1985-08-19 6' 2" 187 RW R 38 9 6 15 87 124 SUDA, JUSTIN OHL KINGSTON 1984-09-29 6' 2" 199 D L 66 4 3 7 58 125 SELDEN, BOBBY USA US NAT'L U-18 1985-01-30 6' 1" 198 D L 47 5 5 10 51 126 GIBBONS, RYAN WHL SEATTLE 1985-01-01 6' 4" 210 RW R 67 9 6 15 91 127 ROUSSIN, DANY QMJHL RIMOUSKI 1985-01-09 6' 1.5" 190 C L 71 20 34 54 87 128 HANSEN, MATTHEW WHL SEATTLE 1985-01-18 6' 3.5" 198 D L 51 3 18 21 24 129 PAVELSKI, JOE USHL WATERLOO 1984-07-11 5' 11" 194 C R 60 36 33 69 32 130 STRACHAN, TYSON BCHL VERNON 1984-10-30 6' 3" 205 D R 56 6 22 28 99 131 BROWN, PAUL WHL KAMLOOPS 1984-07-21 6' 2" 184 RW R 67 21 35 56 229 132 MCIVER, NATHAN OHL TORONTO ST. MICHAEL'S 1985-01-06 6' 1.5" 185 D L 68 5 10 15 121 133 CURRY, MIKE USHL SIOUX CITY 1984-09-20 6' 3.5" 182 C R 52 6 13 19 58 134 JOANISSE, ANDRE QMJHL DRUMMONDVILLE 1985-05-15 6' 3" 220 D L 60 1 2 3 140 135 HENDRY, JORDAN CCHA ALASKA-FAIRBANKS 1984-02-23 6' 0" 190 D L 33 3 5 8 10 136 WALLACE, TIM CCHA UNIVERSITY OF NOTRE DAME 1984-08-06 6' 1" 180 RW R 36 5 5 10 24 137 GOOD, DALE ECAC CLARKSON UNIVERSITY 1984-01-13 6' 3" 200 D L 30 2 3 5 53 138 BLANSHAN, CODY CCHA UNIVERSITY OF NEBRASKA-OMAHA 1984-02-14 6' 1" 200 D L 36 0 4 4 99 139 ROSEHILL, JAY AJHL OLDS 1985-07-16 6' 3" 195 D L 49 4 1 5 204 140 JELINEK, PETR WHL MOOSE JAW 1984-06-19 6' 0.5" 208 C L 59 17 23 40 103 141 SIMMONS, STUART OHL BRAMPTON 1984-09-26 6' 0.5" 212 D L 62 3 14 17 92 142 PAIEMENT, JONATHAN QMJHL SHERBROOKE 1985-03-07 6' 0.5" 200 D L 71 4 14 18 118 143 BITZ, BYRON BCHL NANAIMO 1984-07-21 6' 3" 200 RW R 58 27 46 73 59 144 KUTNY, VLADIMIR QMJHL QUEBEC 1985-05-22 6' 4" 195 LW L 66 7 12 19 37 145 MILAM, JAMIE CCHA NORTHERN MICHIGAN 1984-05-05 6' 0" 200 D R 33 3 17 20 18 146 STORTINI, ZACK OHL SUDBURY 1985-09-11 6' 3" 217 RW R 62 13 16 29 222 147 GELECH, RANDALL WHL KELOWNA 1984-02-02 6' 2.5" 206 C/RW R 48 6 2 8 33 148 PORTER, CHRIS USHL LINCOLN 1984-05-29 6' 1" 210 C L 59 13 22 35 74 149 JOUDREY, ANDREW SJHL NOTRE DAME 1984-07-15 5' 11" 191 C L 53 27 51 78 16 150 QUINCEY, KYLE OHL LONDON 1985-08-12 6' 1" 194 D L 66 6 12 18 77 SIXTH ROUND PLAYER LEAGUE TEAM BIRTHDATE HEIGHT WEIGHT POS SHOT GP G A PTS PIM 151 MONDOU, BENOIT QMJHL SHAWINIGAN 1985-05-03 5' 10" 165 C R 60 11 51 62 33 152 GRENZY, MICHAEL USHL CHICAGO 1984-02-06 6' 3.5" 190 D L 51 3 13 16 48 153 BONNEAU, JIMMY QMJHL MONTREAL 1985-03-22 6' 2" 216 LW L 65 1 5 6 261 154 LOJEK, MARTIN OHL BRAMPTON 1985-08-19 6' 4.5" 220 D R 65 1 13 14 47 155 YACBOSKI, DARRYL WHL REGINA 1985-01-13 6' 3" 216 D L 37 2 3 5 63 156 COURCELLES, SEBASTIEN QMJHL SHERBROOKE 1984-11-19 6' 0" 212 C L 71 18 27 45 166 157 TROJOVSKY, MATEJ WHL REGINA 1984-10-12 6' 4.5" 220 D L 70 3 6 9 229 158 STEMPNIAK, LEE ECAC DARTMOUTH COLLEGE 1983-02-04 6' 0" 190 RW R 29 17 23 40 26 159 COURCHAINE, ADAM WHL VANCOUVER 1984-05-23 5' 10" 171 C L 71 43 42 85 24 160 RORABECK, RYAN OHL TORONTO ST. MICHAEL'S 1985-02-27 6' 1" 173 C L 55 11 19 30 20 161 SULLIVAN, MIKE OPJRA STOUFFVILLE 1984-09-14 6' 4" 190 C L 49 24 37 61 14 162 IHNACAK, BRIAN OPJRA TORONTO ST. MICHAEL'S JR A 1985-04-10 5' 11.5" 178 C R 46 40 46 86 66 163 SCHMIDT, JEFF WHL KAMLOOPS 1984-10-01 6' 2.5" 195 C/LW L 57 9 30 39 43 164 HAYEK, MATT USHL LINCOLN 1984-03-27 6' 2.5" 185 C/W R 56 4 6 10 26 165 HARTMAN, MATT USHL SIOUX CITY 1984-08-04 6' 0.5" 182 RW R 56 15 18 33 69 166 TARNASKY, NICK WHL LETHBRIDGE 1984-11-25 6' 1.5" 218 C L 69 9 20 29 84 167 BOISCLAIR, MAXIME QMJHL CHICOUTIMI 1985-02-14 6' 0" 196 LW L 74 15 24 39 132 168 WILKENS, JAKE BCHL VERNON 1984-03-06 6' 1" 202 D R 57 6 18 24 154 169 CHAUMONT, BOBBY OHL SUDBURY 1984-11-21 6' 0.5" 192 RW R 68 23 30 53 31 170 JENSEN, CHRISTIAN ECAC YALE UNIVERSITY 1983-01-27 5' 10" 178 RW L 29 9 15 24 16 171 KOVAR, ROBIN WHL VANCOUVER 1984-04-02 6' 1" 198 C R 71 13 29 42 73 172 HIRSCH, TYLER WCHA UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA 1984-01-04 5' 10" 165 RW R 35 9 11 20 30 173 TETRAULT, ERIC QMJHL ROUYN NORANDA 1985-07-06 6' 3" 190 D L 55 0 3 3 192 174 PSZENYCZNY, DAVE OHL SARNIA 1985-02-18 5' 11" 197 D L 68 13 14 27 116 175 LARMAN, DREW OHL SARNIA 1985-05-05 6' 2.5" 180 C R 67 4 14 18 25 176 KELLEY, CHRIS USHSE DEERFIELD ACADEMY 1984-04-04 6' 1" 200 D L 25 1 15 16 14 177 BALAZ, VLADIMIR QMJHL SHERBROOKE 1984-01-28 6' 2.5" 180 LW L 65 13 9 22 30 178 BYFUGLIEN, DUSTIN WHL PRINCE GEORGE 1985-03-27 6' 2.5" 275 D R 56 10 29 39 78 179 KENNEDY, PETER WCHA UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA 1984-05-24 6' 2" 175 D L 10 0 1 1 6 180 CUNNING, CAM WHL KAMLOOPS 1985-06-04 6' 0.5" 197 LW L 71 7 13 20 54 SEVENTH ROUND PLAYER LEAGUE TEAM BIRTHDATE HEIGHT WEIGHT POS SHOT GP G A PTS PIM 181 JOHNSON, CHARLIE ECAC HARVARD UNIVERSITY 1984-01-30 5' 11" 180 LW L 25 2 13 15 6 182 SVARNY, IVAN OHL BELLEVILLE 1984-10-31 6' 1" 185 D L 65 5 11 16 69 183 MURRAY, BRADY BCHL SALMON ARM 1984-08-17 5' 9" 165 C L 59 42 59 101 30 184 STONER, CLAYTON WHL TRI-CITY 1985-02-19 6' 3" 225 D L 58 4 12 16 85 185 BECKER, BROCK WCHA MANKATO STATE 1984-05-14 6' 1" 176 C L 35 12 11 23 26 186 GOODSELL, JESSE QMJHL CHICOUTIMI 1985-02-21 6' 2" 201 LW L 59 4 14 18 88 187 NOVAK, BRETT WHL PRINCE ALBERT 1985-04-28 6' 0" 180 RW L 70 10 11 21 38 188 GREIG, ALEX OPJRA GEORGETOWN 1983-12-12 6' 2" 205 D L 46 2 18 20 97 189 GERMAIN, DAVID USHSE NORTHFIELD-MT.HERMON 1984-04-25 6' 0" 182 C L 29 14 30 44 48 190 FLETCHER, TODD USHSE CHELMSFORD 1984-08-18 5' 10" 163 C L 27 23 36 59 23 191 ZAPPALA, JOEY ECAC YALE UNIVERSITY 1983-05-07 6' 1" 205 C L 27 9 6 15 8 192 REESE, DYLAN NAHL PITTSBURGH 1984-08-29 5' 11.5" 195 D R 56 11 30 41 98 193 GIMBLETT, JESSE OHL OWEN SOUND 1985-01-04 6' 2.5" 215 LW L 68 13 22 35 81 194 MOULTON, TYRELL WHL PRINCE GEORGE 1984-12-28 6' 0.5" 196 D L 62 2 13 15 135 195 BOUTIN, JONATHAN QMJHL SHAWINIGAN 1984-10-21 6' 2" 200 RW R 62 8 13 21 72 196 MCGREGOR, BRYAN BCHL VERNON 1984-06-27 5' 11" 192 C/RW R 58 44 46 90 41 197 HASTINGS, RYAN OHL SUDBURY 1985-03-08 6' 2" 216 D L 57 1 6 7 67 198 REGIER, STEVEN WHL MEDICINE HAT 1984-08-31 6' 4" 183 LW L 61 11 10 21 114 199 SYVRET, DANNY OHL LONDON 1985-06-13 5' 11" 189 D L 68 8 14 22 31 200 ROHLFS, DAVID NAHL COMPUWARE 1984-06-04 6' 3" 219 RW R 53 30 14 44 36 201 SCHULTZ, GREG EJHL NEW ENGLAND 1984-02-01 6' 6" 215 RW R 34 3 8 11 110 202 LECLERC, BILL USHSE ST. PAUL'S 1984-04-26 6' 0" 186 D L 25 3 11 14 21 203 HEMINGWAY, BRETT BCHL COQUITLAM 1983-09-28 6' 1" 185 W R 60 42 50 92 50 204 LAMARCHE, ALEXANDRE QMJHL BAIE COMEAU 1985-03-24 5' 10" 182 LW L 54 5 1 6 243 205 ORTIZ, RAY USHSE BELMONT HILL 1984-06-10 5' 11" 180 RW R 28 20 10 30 2 206 HURLEY, SEAN USHSE NORTHFIELD-MT.HERMON 1983-07-25 6' 3" 194 D L 24 8 18 26 37 207 DENNIS, STEPHEN CCHA MIAMI UNIVERSITY 1983-07-27 5'11.5" 180 D R 36 3 2 5 26 208 HARTWICK, MIKE USMHL BOSTON MIDGET 1983-09-29 6' 3" 220 D L 67 20 27 47 107 209 WILLIAMS, GREG OHL PETERBOROUGH 1985-01-22 6' 2.5" 201 RW R 64 9 3 12 64 210 BABIN, NOAH USHL GREEN BAY 1984-03-11 5' 11.5" 190 RW R 57 3 11 14 54

Where did you hear about the Panthers scout being at the Bulldogs game? Hope it's Hossa and not Hainsey, maybe Ryder or even Beauchemin who knows... I doubt it's to scout Lindsay or Blouin