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Bring back the Maroons?

It would be cooler if they put a micro-cam on his helmet showing the game from an Ovechkin "First Person" perspective.

or not.

yes. Still more bounces to come though.. It's Habs vs. Toskala now

he likes to bash his head against solid objects - I feel bad for him - a lot of heart but... come on I smell another goal soon that or the Habs tie it with 45 seconds left and a lame turnover leads to the winner in overtime

b/c there is a conspiracy!!!! dun dun DUN!!!

Jokinen ties the Ottawa game at 4

hehe - how'd you pack of old women like that? what a goal!

there you go, things are looking up

3rd period + leafs = lose, if you can't beat the leafs in the 3rd in 07-08 you didn't show up should be a good show

here are some pie-in-the-sky suggestions "Six hockey executives who could turn the Leafs around"... http://www.thestar.com/Sports/Hockey/article/296584 Read the very last one at the bottom of the whole page.

has Antropov ever scored a shootout goal wtf? why do they keep sending him out?

there ya go padding the lead ok, back to lurking

look, I can get tired of cliche "the refs are against us" posts as much as the next guy

Leafs OTL = 5 league leaders relax

and why is that?

If it works and Tavares actually goes for it (hard to see) I'm sure the NHL will fill in the loophole shortly thereafter. The one problem is the NHL hasn't actually been very flexible from his point of view so maybe he's po'd enough to stick a finger in their eye?? Who knows.

Did anyone see this yet? Desperation move: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...ory/GlobeSports (lives in Oakville eh? Hamilton is just as close )

Wow wamsley - that was the best post in the thread. Coherent, insightful, useful analogies. Thanks for taking the time. you've given me new hope! :-D well, not really.. but I like your thoughts

Well I don't think you totally disagree. I would say the age cut-off would be closer to 40 than 30 but if an age cut-off is even needed it goes towards my point which is the rivalry is fading away. I'm not saying you can remove history and it is the history that will keep the rivalry from ever dying completely. Obviously it was once the greatest rivalry in hockey. Now it is a bit of a museum display sort of thing. Fun b/c of the great history not b/c of the present. None of the great incidents or periods of real blood-and-guts rivalry took place involving any of the current players on either team or even close. And sport rivalries - involving some real hate - cool off without being renewed with new fresh outrages. You mention the pre-99 sens and that is my point: the 99-2007 period is full of stuff that makes the fans blood boil in Toronto and Ottawa/Kanata. That's almost a decade. Habs-Leafs not so much. If the Leafs had been defeated by the habs in 93 that would have been awesome. But instead Leaf fans hate Kelly Fraser and Gretzky. Leafs fans may get annoyed by a rehash of the Montreal cup total but also it might secretly cheer them up a little since if cup total = awesomeness they don't look so bad (unlike in any other comparison). Every other teams fans tell them their cup total is meaningless. An earlier era might have found this more upsetting (as you mentioned. Right now Toronto fans have 0 hope of ever catching Montreal. The idea is ridiculous. Anyway... blah blah blah... I am not disputing the rivalry that was. It was once huge. Of course. As big as it gets. Part of a long history. But its fading away. Leaf fans still have someone to hate. I'm in my 30s too and live in Toronto now. I've played rec hockey for 6 yrs here plus some coaching, pick-up, Bulldogs games, marlies. Anyway, I've been mostly a lurker so what right do I have to complain? I love the game day threads here - esp when working late - but I just found this thread disappointing. "leafs fans think they'll win every year" etc etc um... no My real concern is with habs fans. There should be a better thread on the habs board about the leafs than the other way around. Actually pls excuse this incoherent post. And excuse the party pooping. I'm kind of down with no playoffs to be honest. This thread wasn't meant to be an equivalent to the tmlfans habs thread I realize that. And if I want to see a different kind of thread why don't I get off my ass and do some writing?

I have a funny feeling Toronto will lose tonight. They have been wildly all over the map this season and tend to throw in a stinker every now and then - even when it is a "big game" or against an injury-laden opponent. 2006-2007 - Regular Season - Power Play - POWER PLAY OPPORTUNITIES: Toronto 16 out of 30

Uh, actually it is. Especially for the last few years. The only time I've ever heard people say that is in frustrated self-mockery. Sorry guys I don't get this thread. Turning off lurker-mode.. The Habs are becoming the Vancouver Canucks of the East. Well, only in the sense that they have no "real" rivalry. (Nothing to do with long term suckage and questionable uniform design). Canucks fans like to hate on Edmonton and Calgary from time to time but the hate never gets returned as Calgary and Edm are laser-focused on each other. It looked like maybe Colorado.. but no.. due to the Luongo trade the situation settled down quickly. Poor no-rival Vancouver. The sad fact is the blood has been slowly draining from the Leafs-Habs rivalry for decades and now its on its death bed. From the anti-leafs tone of habsworld, maybe more so on the Leafs side. We once had a good thing going with Boston but that fell apart too. We should remember what a real rivalry is like since the Nordiques were the real deal. I've never seen a Leafs fan truly lose it over the Habs. Anti-Habs sentiment is reflex for some but lacking in passion. The proof is countless Leafs fans will talk to you, knowing you're a Montreal fan, endlessly about the perceived shortcomings of their team. However if there is even the hint of a Sens fan in the room not a single word of criticism will be heard and the only talk is about how much the sens suck. Future humiliations the sens will suffer etc etc Toronto fans hate #1 the Sens #2 the Sens #3 Philadelphia. the Habs are #4 for many but for others there's just a grudging respect. Mostly b/c the Habs have had and are what the Leafs believe should have been theirs. And its hard to really hate what you idealize. The Borje Salming thing and the 40 yr cup anniversary thing were just sad reflections of real celebrations teams with prouder histories put on. Living in Toronto is like living in the hockey version of the 40-year old virgin. While Montreal is the guy who has always had the success. You are jealous. But secretly you want to be that guy. With that said, the leafs forum has a thread like this every year: http://www.tmlfans.ca/forums/index.php/topic,49851.0.html While habsworld, the site of the, by far, classiest team in hockey has just this thread??? Why can't we have a thread that discusses the leafs - beyond worn out clichés - but from a Montreal perspective? By far the best thing for a real Leafs Habs rivalry to reemerge would be the Habs eliminating the Leafs on Saturday with some overblown pseudo-questionable reason thrown in. Something leafs radio show callers will bring up for years. (Also if the Habs picked up Daniel Alfredsson it would help)

et voila... http://www.nhluniforms.com/

-Hearing about the team is what I would expect. And what is wrong with that? -Recently what you heard from the majority about Domi was either: why was he signed to 2 years? I hope he gets bought out, and my God look at the size of his ego. -Belak is a whipping boy. -McCabe is widely believed to be decent but overpaid. Kaberle gets the most praise from most in Toronto. Sorry but most leaf fans sit around talking about the frustration and futility of being a Leaf fan not about how awesome the team is. In fact most of the criticisms leveled here sound exactly like Leafs fans talking among themselves (when no known Sens fans are in the room). Except for the bit about Toronto being across from Cleveland.

tell my wife, I've just about convinced her to move to Montreal