puck7x Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 A detailed look at Kyle Chipchura... http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=725 Great work Dan. [Edited on 2004-12-3 by puck7x] Chipchura , Player of the Month for November http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=740 [Edited on 2004-12-9 by sakiqc] [Edited on 2004-12-29 by puck7x] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckham Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Ouch. Bad timing. Chipchura and his team have gone into the tank big time. :puke: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puck7x Posted November 11, 2004 Author Share Posted November 11, 2004 Originally posted by beckhamOuch. Bad timing. Chipchura and his team have gone into the tank big time. :puke: He's coming off a 3 point game, I wouldnt call that tanking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckham Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 But overall, he seems to be falling into the "nothing special" category that the scouts quoted said about him. But I guess you can't expect too much with the 18th pick in a weak draft year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montreal Posted November 14, 2004 Share Posted November 14, 2004 Originally posted by beckhamBut overall, he seems to be falling into the "nothing special" category that the scouts quoted said about him. But I guess you can't expect too much with the 18th pick in a weak draft year. That's ok, he will still be effective even he he becomes only nothing special. If he continues to improve his foot speed, shot power, and acceleration, he'll likely have a very solid career in the NHL playing an effective 3rd or 4th line role, a big forward that will work hard, take the body and is solid in his own end. That's not exciting at this point of his career, but in 5-10 years when he's perhaps helping to win a cup, he'll be the kind of player we' are glad we have. The question for me is more about what kind of offensive upside does he really have? Some people tried to tell me they see him as a 1st line center in the NHL, I can't say I agree at all, but I could see his upside as more of a 2nd line center in say 4-5 years, if his offensive game continues to progress and doesn't top out. For me I was disappointed at the time of the draft. To me I was hoping we would take someone with a lot more upside, but I understood the pick made a lot of sense in building a team position by position. I can't say I'm not happy with the pick now though, after watching him at the rookie camp. I think he will likely make a very good 3rd line center or checking line role, but time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckham Posted November 14, 2004 Share Posted November 14, 2004 But he has to have the drive and intensity to become any kind of an NHL player. The book on Kyle was that he didn't have breathtaking skills, but he was a character player and a winner. He hasn't shown that. I think what will hold him back is not a lack of physical skills, but mental skills. I think he has the physical tools to be a solid NHL player, but not (so far) the character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montreal Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 Originally posted by beckhamBut he has to have the drive and intensity to become any kind of an NHL player. The book on Kyle was that he didn't have breathtaking skills, but he was a character player and a winner. He hasn't shown that. I think what will hold him back is not a lack of physical skills, but mental skills. I think he has the physical tools to be a solid NHL player, but not (so far) the character. I can't say I agree. He looks good to me. We'll see how he'll progresses 3-5 years from now. Character is also hard to really guage from the stands or from the couch/computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckham Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 To be fair, the P.A. Raiders have played most of their games on the road to start the season, and play 7 of their next 8 at home, I think, to balance things out. there is still time to turn things around. Also, Chipchura has been in on 50% of his team's offense, even though he missed a game. That is higher than any of the other top draft picks from 2004, and probably from 2003 as well. The closest are Picard at 40% and Schremp at 37%. Most of the top picks returning to junior started the year slowly, but most have got things rolling of late. Hopefully Chipchura and the Raiders will get some momentum from this home stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternGuy Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I'm going to go watch him play when he comes to Saskatoon this winter and I'll post a topic about him if you guys want to. They're in the same division as the Baldes but for some reason the Raiders will only play their first game here in December on January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckham Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 That would be good. Thanks. Raiders continue to average 2 GPG, Chipchura continues to average 1PPG. If he was in on half of their scoring a year ago, he would have had over 100 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckham Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Kyle has 10 games left to win an invitation to the WJC camp. Most of them are home games, and he is on a 4 game point scoring streak, so things are looking better. From the sound of it, Brent Sutter is only going to invite about 28 players to the main camp, so there will be fierce competition. Luckily for Kyle he is a left handed shot, the competition is far less for left handed forwards than righties. Especially if Patrice Bergeron, Nathan Horton and Brent Burns all show up. Besides those three, there is Jeff Carter, Corey Perry, Anthony Stewert, Ryan Getzlaf all shooting right. It would be virtually impossible for Chipchura to crack that group. Playing the left side with his defense and faceoff skills, as well as being a WHLer will all work in his favor. But he still has to pick up his play for these last games, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckham Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 I forgot there is also Eric Fehr, Travis Zajac and M.A. Pouliot for right handed shooters. Plus Steve Bernier and Jeremy Colliton. Some of those will end up playing centre, likely Bergeron and Horton, perhaps Zajac and Pouliot. Kyle will have to make it as a LW, where the holdovers are Nigel Dawes and Mike Richards that I know of for sure. Jeff Tambellini, Daniel Paille and Maxim Talbot are all gone from last year. [Edited on 2004/11/24 by beckham] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montreal Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Chipchura picks up a SH goal tonight, only 3 goals behind last years totals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckham Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Chipchura is going to be in very tough to make the WJC roster. Ryan Stone, David Bolland, Stefan Meyer and Andrew Ladd have made big impressions in the Challenge series so far. They have all shown a lot more quickness and intensity than Kyle. On the plus side, he was matched up against the Yunkov/Voloshenko line most often in the last game, and neutralized them pretty effectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckham Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 After watching him a second time, I doubt that he will make the national team. He takes to long to process out there. I wouldn't pick him, but maybe Sutter will if he has a specific checking role in mind for Chipchura. It is pretty safe to say that he will take some time to make the NHL and not be any sort of an offensive force when he does. His upside seems very limited and he will have to work really hard to make the NHL as a grinder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puck7x Posted December 4, 2004 Author Share Posted December 4, 2004 Chipchura injured himself in practice this morning, he's out for the season. Thats some pretty horrible news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckham Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Ouch! Tough break. Really glum news all round on the habs's prospect scene. Time to write this year off and start over next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckham Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 What was Chipchura doing practicing after 3 games in 3 days and all the travel? Common sense would have been to give him the day off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toren Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 You think this sucks as a habs fan? Try being a Prince Albert Raiders fan. Their only shining star is done for the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckham Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 That really hurts on top of Komisarek. The team's top two prospects both with potentially career hampering injuries. Watching Kyle in the games against the Russians, his style does seem quite herky-jerky, he seemed off balance a lot and his stops and starts weren't very smooth. That would lead to muscle and tendon pulls. But I'm still a bit pissed that he was even on the ice on Friday morning. He played Tuesday, had a big game, flew to Red Deer following that and probably got in late. Played the next two nights along with (probable) practices each day, flew out Thursday night and probably didn't get back to Prince Albert until the wee hours of the morning, then Anholt has him out in a practice the same day? :nono: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckham Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Just as the Raiders are starting to turn things around and score some goals. They brought in a few new players and look like a different team. I'm sure that Kyle would have had 5 or 6 points in the past couple of games and averaged a couple of points per game for the balance of the season. Also, by the look of the WJC selection camp, I think he would have gotten an invite as least. Bummer, bummer, bummer...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckham Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Story on his injury at www.paherald.sk.ca. Tough kid! :/) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakiqc Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Originally posted by beckhamStory on his injury at www.paherald.sk.ca. Tough kid! :/) THanks for the link. I posted it on the HW Front Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckham Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Article about Dustin Boyd's invitation to WJC training camp states that he was only added on because Kyle was injured. So Chipchura would definitely have been at the camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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