puck7x Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 Holy crap! And I didnt notice this until an entire day later (I wasnt watching any news all day I guess) http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/12/2...uake/index.html Biggest Earthquake in 40 years, its the biggest disaster I can ever remember seeing (although I'm only in my early 20's) ... geez [Edited on 2004-12-30 by puck7x] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan21 Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 They're saying 21k now...just, wow. Those poor people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakiqc Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 That's horrible. 21K+ death, but also milllions of displaced people. People severly hurt, people who lost everything. Very sad:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_Habs_Fan Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 i think it's going towards the 50+. This is just horrible. Seen some video's and it's just nuts what you see. This is probably the biggest disaster since WW2. (ok 9-11 had a big impact) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafs Suck Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 I believe their was an earthquake in Turkey in 1999 that killed something like 60k... not positive... And can we please not compare this to 9/11. I dunno why everything gets compared to it. [Edited on 2004/12/28 by Leafs Suck] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan21 Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Originally posted by Dutch_Habs_FanThis is probably the biggest disaster since WW2.) I agree, this is going to take years and years to repair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_Habs_Fan Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Originally posted by Leafs SuckI believe their was an earthquake in Turkey in 1999 that killed something like 60k... not positive... And can we please not compare this to 9/11. I dunno why everything gets compared to it. [Edited on 2004/12/28 by Leafs Suck] cuz i was talking about the bigest disaster since ww2. And 911 was a big one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puck7x Posted December 29, 2004 Author Share Posted December 29, 2004 Is anyone else (The Americans here maybe?) disappointed with the American media coverage of this tragedy? Channels like CNN would rather show human interest stories, or celeb gossip then the disaster in Asia.... And when they actually do show the rare story about the disaster the story is usually about foreign tourists trying to get home, or about some cute finnish baby who was rescued... Who cares about the millions of Asians/Indians/etc eh? Am I wrong? Its sad, its all about ratings... and people eat up the shit CNN feeds them. Or, maybe CNN thinks that most people only care about stories "from home" (or about Americans in iraq) . Its much different on Canadian tv I've noticed. [Edited on 2004-12-29 by puck7x] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan21 Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Originally posted by puck7xIs anyone else (The Americans here maybe?) disappointed with the American media coverage of this tragedy? Channels like CNN would rather show human interest stories, or celeb gossip then the disaster in Asia.... And when they actually do show the rare story about the disaster the story is usually about foreign tourists trying to get home, or about some cute finnish baby who was rescued... Who cares about the millions of Asians/Indians/etc eh? Am I wrong? Its sad, its all about ratings... and people eat up the shit CNN feeds them. Or, maybe CNN thinks that most people only care about stories "from home" (or about Americans in iraq) . Its much different on Canadian tv I've noticed. [Edited on 2004-12-29 by puck7x] You're right. CNN has just been absolutly negligent in it's coverage of this, and, sad to say, it's the most international of the US 24/7 news networks. I watch the BBC news at 5 on a Public station here to get international news...the coverage on American networks of anything not involving Americans is pathetic. Examples from the last few days: The main lead in the story on ABC here at 6 on the 27th was the quake...for 5 minutes, then a 10 minute story on if it could happen here (In FL). Pffff. FoxNews's interview when I turned there was if Bush was giving away too much. CNN was discussing that very topic, then moved on to a stupid Gallop poll about the "most admired women...." And about the 9/11 thing....don't want to come off as unsympathetic to it, and it was a big event, but it's not even close to the size of this event. Once the total is fully realized (It will take a few weeks), this will be the biggest humanitarian disaster of our generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafs Suck Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Originally posted by Dutch_Habs_Fan Originally posted by Leafs SuckI believe their was an earthquake in Turkey in 1999 that killed something like 60k... not positive... And can we please not compare this to 9/11. I dunno why everything gets compared to it. [Edited on 2004/12/28 by Leafs Suck] cuz i was talking about the bigest disaster since ww2. And 911 was a big one. but 9/11 was terrorism. ie caused by other human beings. this was something that could not be prevented. no one knew it was coming. it's was act of nature. which makes it all the more sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33_ Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Originally posted by Leafs Suckthis was something that could not be prevented. no one knew it was coming. it's was act of nature. which makes it all the more sad. I agree that this shouldn't be compared to 9-11, as they are totally different situations. At the same time though, I find them equal in sadness. This disaster for the amount of life lost, and 9-11 because it was, as you said, humans who caused it. Also, I'm always critical of the American media, I think 95% of it sucks 95% of the time. [Edited on 12-29-04 by Fanpuck33] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan21 Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 As usual, Rex Murphey says it best: http://www.cbc.ca/national/rex/rex_041228.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zowpeb Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Latest estimates from this quake are at 60,000+ with a number of people saying it will end up over 100,000... That's not even taking into account all the people that will end up getting various diseases associated with this disaster. It's really f'd up. I can't even begin to imagine what it would've been like being even near this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puck7x Posted December 30, 2004 Author Share Posted December 30, 2004 Originally posted by ZowpebLatest estimates from this quake are at 60,000+ with a number of people saying it will end up over 100,000... That's not even taking into account all the people that will end up getting various diseases associated with this disaster. It's really f'd up. I can't even begin to imagine what it would've been like being even near this... Yup, its sad. But adding after adding up the current death tolls with the number of people who will die from the disease, in total more then 100,000+ will be dead. I remember this past summer when Haiti got struck by a hurricane and was flooded, the dirty-water diseases were the big killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33_ Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 The body count is up to 110,000, and many more will likely die from disease as a result of contamination. This is just unbelieveable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafs Suck Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 Canadian government is now giving 40 million. US only 35. Considering the size of our economies the US should be leading the world in aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombTHEice Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 Man what a catastrophe, it's very sad. These guys have lost everything ... their home, their family. BTW. For days there aren't any news about more than 1500 Austrian tourists ... it would be also the biggest tragedy for Austria since WW2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puck7x Posted December 30, 2004 Author Share Posted December 30, 2004 Deathtoll is up to 120k now. I saw a report on the news of a helicopter flying over an island that used to have over 10k people living on it, absolutely nothing is left, everything was wiped out. Unreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan21 Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 I've heard lots of Swedes have perished as well.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_Habs_Fan Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Only 5 dutchie's so far. But there are aproximately 30 people lost. I've seen a list of foreigners and most lost came from sweden. It's a popular holiday destiantion for the swedes i heared. I think 40 Million en 35 million is kinda low for such big countries like the US and Canada. Holland gives 27 million, and i'm not saying we are so good! I'm saying all those other countries are not giving enough!! (but hey that just for now, let's see what else happens, i just hope the best for those people out there!!I think they need it!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafs Suck Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Canadian government will now match every dollar donated. So if you donate one, these victims get two. Plus they have forgiven debt. A very honorable thing. Too bad other countries don't follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafs Suck Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Originally posted by Dutch_Habs_FanOnly 5 dutchie's so far. But there are aproximately 30 people lost. I've seen a list of foreigners and most lost came from sweden. It's a popular holiday destiantion for the swedes i heared. I think 40 Million en 35 million is kinda low for such big countries like the US and Canada. Holland gives 27 million, and i'm not saying we are so good! I'm saying all those other countries are not giving enough!! (but hey that just for now, let's see what else happens, i just hope the best for those people out there!!I think they need it!!) Canada's GDP estimated for 2004 is 958.7 billion The Americans is 10.99 TRILLION... Yet we give alot more aid... Shows you where Bush's heart is... I guess if they had oil, it would be a different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33_ Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 First of all, the 35-40 million the US is giving is just the immediate aid. I've seen that when all is said and done, the US will give around 100 million. Secondly, I think it is EXTREMELY generous for the US to give that much, considering we are embroiled in Iraq and Afghanistan, and are currently in a budget defecit. If things were different, the US would be able to do a lot more. Another thing I found interesting is that a number or times I've seen people on TV saying the US is giving away TOO MUCH money given our circumstances. Remember, the aid the US gives them is in addition to the 25% of the UN budget that we pay for, must of which goes toward humanitarian missions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan21 Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Originally posted by Leafs Suck Originally posted by Dutch_Habs_FanOnly 5 dutchie's so far. But there are aproximately 30 people lost. I've seen a list of foreigners and most lost came from sweden. It's a popular holiday destiantion for the swedes i heared. I think 40 Million en 35 million is kinda low for such big countries like the US and Canada. Holland gives 27 million, and i'm not saying we are so good! I'm saying all those other countries are not giving enough!! (but hey that just for now, let's see what else happens, i just hope the best for those people out there!!I think they need it!!) Canada's GDP estimated for 2004 is 958.7 billion The Americans is 10.99 TRILLION... Yet we give alot more aid... Shows you where Bush's heart is... I guess if they had oil, it would be a different story. Agreed, it is amazing. I mean, more then 200,000,000,000 for Invading Iraq, and 35,000,000 for this....jeez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_Habs_Fan Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 I heared the states already made more money avail. AFter some complaining from the UN! God Job. There is already over a Billion dollar avail! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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