bleu_blanc_rouge Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 these theo - ribs for lecavalier - kubina make more and more sense suddenly... I mean.. they wont go with graham as #1 goalie, will they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleu_blanc_rouge Posted August 5, 2005 Author Share Posted August 5, 2005 oh and if we lose our #2 center we could sign some1 like allison.. he'd be signable for 3-3.5 mill a year since he missed 2 seasons.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theberge43 Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 If we loose our second center it's for Vinny who would be our 1st center ... still I think it's bad for the habs. TB just saved 7 000 000 $ to sign Vinny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaskHabFan Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 C'mon, thats a bad trade, Vincent is not worth Theo and Riberio is just starting to come on, Price is not gonna be ready any time soon. Stop this nonsense, Vincent would be a good addition next year if he is a UFA, thats it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy10 Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Khabibulin isnt worth 27 million......that's alot of $$$ to throw into a Goalie.....The Hawks seem to be throwing around alot of loot these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33_ Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 TB knew they were going to lose Khabi to FA, that's why these rumors started in the first place. Even with Grahme as their only goalie, TB would be stupid to make this trade. Yes, Theo is my favorite habs and a Vezina winner, but Vinny and Pavel are both All-Stars. Ribs? The guy hasn't proven anything yet people. And if we made this trade, who's our goalie? Buffalo reject Martyin Biron? Cujo? Burke? Come on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycing Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 No way, Montreal won't trade Theo unless we get a starter back in return. Plus, Montreal is now sitting with 8 defenseman... I highly doubt we'd trade for Kubina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortcat1 Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Boy, that's a kick in the crotch for Tampa Bay. As to the Théodore trade, I'm pretty confident that we can forget that. It wouldn't be in the best interests of the Canadiens to do that and Gainey wouldn't shoot himself in the foot that way. He's got a starting goalie who is considered among the best in the league, he'll keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theberge43 Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 I agree that trading Theo isn't a good idea ... but man I want Lecavalier here ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANFALCAO Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 theres no way gainey will make that deal first of all if we trade theo who will start in net for us danis, price ,huet danis and price are not ready to take the starter roll and huet is injured and i dont think hes a number 1 goalie ,sure we would have a good offensive team and a good denfensive team but goaltending wins you cups ,just ask tampa last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANFALCAO Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 plus theres a good chance that Lecavalier will sign here nect year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theberge43 Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Originally posted by DANFALCAOplus theres a good chance that Lecavalier will sign here nect year I still don't see us having cap room to sign him next season ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonus Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 if lecavalier is traded it will be for a defenseman(have no idea which one), prospects, and/or picks. I dont think ribeiro's rep is as good in other markets as it is in le journal de montreal. Trading Theo and ribs? Why dont we just trade patrick roy and mike keane for a small guy and a B+ goaltender? We just got swept by tampa bay last year and now you want to restock their goalie pool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33_ Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Originally posted by MacaskillPlus, Montreal is now sitting with 8 defenseman... I highly doubt we'd trade for Kubina. Yeah, but Kubina is a better overall defenseman than anyone we have, with the possible exception of Souray. Getting him and Vinny would be amazing for the Habs, but not at the price of Jose Theodore. As for not having cap space, if Vinny wants to come, there will be room for him. As of right now, it is estimated the Habs payroll this season is around 35-36 million. That leaves 3-4 million to sign Vinny. In addition, if he comes, Bonk, Koivu, or Ribs is gone, freeing up a minimum of 1.5 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy10 Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 I think it's time to replace Koivu....I like the guy, but I think we just need to change the chemistry and size up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonus Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 i dont know about moving koivu the second we get an elite winger for him to set up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theberge43 Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Koivu is a solid leader and 2nd line center ... that's it he ain't 1st Center material ... but since we only have Ribeiro and Bonk he's first. With Vinny he would 2nd ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy10 Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 I could go for that...Koivu 2nd line, but we really need to get some new large blood up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theberge43 Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Anyways ... I think Vinny would be a great fit in MTL. Bob should do everything he can to get him period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33_ Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Hey TheBerge, why is there a Panthers logo behind Al Montoya in your sig? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theberge43 Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 I think Bob hasn't done anything spectacular in the UFA pool this year. I think he has to take a chance on Vinny this year. Taking the wait next year approach isn't good. 1. If he doesn't demonstrate to Vinny that he wants him in MTL now, Lecavalier could sign long term in Tampa Bay. 2. Most people can aknowledge that Vinny has been mostly inconsistent in his carreer. But he was name the World Cup MVP, and detroyed us in last year playoffs. The only thing that 'waiting one more year' would do is get his price higher. 3. Trading for him now wouldn't cost Theo IMO. Feaster is in a difficult situation. Taking less than Vinny's value this year or loosing him for nothing next year. Look at what LA gave for Roenick (ok not the same situation, but still PHI had to add a 3rd pick just so LA would take him !). We will start to see this kind of situation more and more often, like in the NBA. All this to say : if Bob can get Vinny for a decent package it will start a new era in Montreal. At least he has to try !!! :bow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 During all this talk about Lecav, I think many of you are completely missing the point. Next year he's going to be UFA and unless T-Bay signs him long-term, there's every chance he's going to test the market and find somewhere else to play. For once it's not the Canadiens hamstrung by their players, it's another team. T-Bay is under the gun and therefore will have to accept *less* in any potential trade talk. Gainey would surely love to have Lecav, but it isn't a necessity, while T-Bay *must* make some kind of decision - be it contract or getting something, ANYTHING, for him at all. I find it highly improbably that Theo would be part of any deal in this situation. In fact, one of the things I heard, and I think I wrote this elsewhere, is that Price was drafted because T-Bay asked them to do just that to be part of a potential trade for Lecav. I think Ribs and Hainsey (I've heard his name associated with this deal a lot) are far more likely to be packaged in a trade than Ribs and Theo. Now, I'm not going to speculate on who might actually be included in a trade, however I will say this: T-Bay will probably get less for Lecav than they would have hoped because of the inherently bad situation in which they find themselves. I suspect it's far more likely that Biron, the name of the other goalie most associated with these talks, will actually be going to T-Bay and not Montreal. Perhaps a wait-and-see approach to who Tampa pulls in as netminder is the first step in all this dialogue. For instance, if T-Bay somehow ropes Cujo in for a fairly elevated price, signing St.Louis and Lecav both is going to impact their salary structure very significantly. BUT, and this is critical, to defend a Cup, you *need* a goalie of significant calibre. Biron won't fit the bill. Look for the Bolts to find a serious goalie in the next day or so and then revisit the Lecav issue when their salary structure is more certain. There are a few blocks that seem to be lining up, ready to tumble, in the next couple of days. A) Tampa addresses the goalie issue. B) Lecav issue dealt with C) Impact on the Lecav deal or non-deal Da) If deal, then Montreal will probably be virtually finished except for signing RFA's. Db) If no deal, there are significant rumours that Montreal is in the mix for both Selanne (Sax apparently went to Gainey to ASK him to look at Selanne) and Kariya (rumoured to be told by Habs management to wait until Lecav situation was resolved) will potentially be in the mix as a package deal, much like their package with Colorado. We've had our two "impact" UFA signings, now it's all about tinkering to see how best to improve the club for the season. Don't rule out a grab for a defender either, in all of this. I doubt Gainey is completely satisfied with what he has on the back end, so far. Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Oh, I am just BEGGING someone to tell me how to get that Yank flag changed to a Canadian one! PLEASE. <--------------- Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theberge43 Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Originally posted by Fanpuck33Hey TheBerge, why is there a Panthers logo behind Al Montoya in your sig? Because he is on my roster in my Fantasy League ! Like Latendresse ! Drafted him before the habs did ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonus Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 id be fine with ribs/hainsey for lecavalier... perhaps tampa would be if they cant get him signed. I dont think montreal burns a 5th pick for a potential trade, only if the deal were done would they do that. go to control panel->edit profile and change your country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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