Interesting Facts

[mrgodo]

Okay, Habs fans, I have stumbled upon a most interesting fact.

We all know the number of cups we have and we'll be adding to that collection soon enough. What I'd like to know is: Do you know who is tied for second in number of stanley cups?

I'll post the answer tomorrow if anyone can't figure it out. And I'd like to hear of any other interesting facts about the habs in return.

[Edited on 2005/10/18 by mrgodo]

[simonus]

maple leafs have 13. Detroit has 10. Don't know who else. Of the pre-NHL teams I think the wanderers had the most, but less than 13 im pretty sure.

[BTH]

Then there was Edmonton with 6. Islanders have 4. I think there's someone with 5.

[xXx..CK..xXx]

Hmmm, I also thought Toronto was the only team to have won it 13 times...and Detroit third with 10...

As for some facts, I thought these were interesting lol...Not solely about the habs but about the Stanley Cup in general...

The Cup's travels

The Cup has been to many places around the world as one of the most recognizable trophies in professional sports. It has logged more than 400,000 miles (640,000 km) during the past five seasons. Among the places the Cup has travelled:

the top of a mountain in British Columbia

the top of Mt. Elbert in Colorado

Red Square

a soccer game at Luzhniki Stadium in Moscow

a monument near Yekaterinburg, Russia marking the geographic boundary between Europe and Asia

an auto glass plant where the Colorado Avalanche head coach Bob Hartley worked while coaching minor-league hockey

an Aboriginal Métis Nation Settlement

a roller-coaster at Universal Studios theme park

the "Hollywood" sign in Los Angeles

on the back of Detroit Red Wings's Darren McCarty's motorcycle for a spin

on the back of Tampa Bay Lightning's Brad Richards' jetski, and later on his father's fishing boat on Northumberland Strait (both times, the cup had its own life jacket

in igloo in Rankin Inlet

the White House as a guest of George Herbert Walker Bush and Bill Clinton

a guest on The Late Show with David Letterman, Meet the Press with Tim Russert, and Late Night with Conan O'Brien

took part in the 1999 5K Celebrity Run Walk in Los Angeles for Women's Cancer Research

Misadventures

The Cup has also been mistreated, misplaced, or otherwise misused on numerous occasions:

A member of the 1905 Ottawa Silver Seven tried to see if he could drop kick the Cup across the frozen Rideau Canal. The attempt failed, and the Cup was not retrieved until the next day.

Weeks after members of the 1906 Montreal Wanderers left it at a photographer's studio, officials learned that the photographer's mother was using the Cup to plant geraniums.

Several members of the 1924 Canadiens, en route to celebrate their win at owner Leo Dandurand's home, left it by a roadside after repairing a flat tire. The Cup was recovered exactly where they left it.

In 1925, Lynn and Muzz Patrick, the children of Victoria Cougars manager-coach Lester Patrick, discover the Cup in the basement of their home, and scratched their names on the Cup with a nail. In 1940, both Lynn and Muzz would be properly engraved on the Cup as members of the New York Rangers.

New York Islanders' Bryan Trottier admitted not only to sleeping with it (as have, apparently, dozens of players before and since), but also to unscrewing the bowl as a food dish for his dog.

In 1988, the Edmonton Oilers' Mark Messier took it to a strip club and let fans drink out of it. The Cup wound up slightly bent in various places for reasons unknown. The Cup was repaired at a local automotive shop, and shipped back to the Hockey Hall of Fame.

Both the 1991 Pittsburgh Penguins and 1993 Montreal Canadiens tested its buoyancy, causing it to wind up at the bottom of Mario Lemieux's and Patrick Roy's respective swimming pools ("The Stanley Cup," Canadiens captain Guy Carbonneau observed, "does not float").

Sylvain Lefebvre of the 1996 Colorado Avalanche had his daughter baptized in it.

In 2003, the Cup was slated to make its first-ever visit to Slovakia with New Jersey Devils' Jiri Bicek , but it never arrived, having inadvertently been left behind in Canada; the Cup made the next flight out of Toronto.

On August 22, 2004, Walter Neubrand, keeper of the Cup, was en route to Fort St. John, British Columbia to deliver it to Tampa Bay Lightning head scout Jake Goertzen. However, Air Canada officials at Vancouver International Airport removed the 35-pound trophy before takeoff because of weight restrictions. The Cup spent the night in the luggage area, 750 miles away. It was flown to Fort St. John the following day.

Errors in engraving

There have also been errors on the engraving on the Cup, some of which also exist on the duplicate Cup found in the Hockey Hall of Fame:

In 1929, Boston Bruins player-coach Cy Denneny's name was listed on the Cup twice (once as a player and once as a coach), with one being spelled correctly and the other as "Cy Dennenny".

In 1952, Detroit Red Wings coach Tommy Ivan's last name was misspelled as "Nivan", and Alex Delvecchio's last name was misspelled as "Belvecchio".

In 1964, the Toronto Maple Leafs was misspelled as "Toronto Maple Leaes".

In 1966, the Montreal Canadiens was misspelled as "Montreal Canadiene".

In 1984, Oilers owner Peter Pocklington included his father, Basil Pocklington, on his trophy. However, as Basil had no connection to the team, his name was crossed out with a row of Xs.

In 1996, Colorado Avalanche forward Adam Deadmarsh's last name was misspelled as "Deadmarch". It was later corrected.

In 2002, Detroit Red Wings goaltender Manny Legace's last name was misspelled "Lagace". This error was also corrected.

[JLP]

the cup replica is at the Hockey Hall of Fame, because that is the only way people in Toronto can ever see it!!!

hehehe

[mrgodo]

Hey xXx..CK..xXx, mighty interesting!

And to correct you, simonus, the leafs only have 11. We're not talking per city. You don't see the maroons in the totals for the habs.

So, Toronto is tied for second. Detroit has 10, i think the bruins have 5 and the blackhawks have 3. The NHL site has a full list. Or you could try habs.com. I like their graphic representation.

Anyway, who is tied for second with 11?

[Dutch_Habs_Fan]

Ottawa (although with different names)

[simonus]

Originally posted by mrgodo

Hey xXx..CK..xXx, mighty interesting!

And to correct you, simonus, the leafs only have 11. We're not talking per city. You don't see the maroons in the totals for the habs.

sorry to correct you, mrgodo, the leafs have 13.

The leafs franchsie was created as the Toronto Arenas, then changed their name to the St. Pats, then changed their name to the Maple Leafs. It's the same team. That's why it's 13. Toronto the city was won 14 (1914 Blueshirts).

[shortcat1]

Originally posted by mrgodo

Okay, Habs fans, I have stumbled upon a most interesting fact.

We all know the number of cups we have and we'll be adding to that collection soon enough. What I'd like to know is: Do you know who is tied for second in number of stanley cups?

I'll post the answer tomorrow if anyone can't figure it out. And I'd like to hear of any other interesting facts about the habs in return.

My great grand-mother told me once, when I sat beside her reading an Astérix book about how hockey was invented by the Gauls in Julius Ceaser's time... you know the one where Obélix uses a 'menhir' incorrectly shaped as a very dull scythe which was only good for cutting down the Roman legionaires but that suited the village very well so much that Assurancetourix, the bard wrote a song about it called "La roche que râpait les Romains" and, of course, since he was such a bad composer and an even worse singer so that he was again tied and gagged and left hanging grumbling a obout the fact that he couldn't share in the feast of barbecued boars because he was such a bore and it was better to be left hanging that to be a barbecued bore because you know that this would be a very tasteless thing to do and as bland a treat as you could ever not hope to have and... oh... ya... I forgot what I was talking about.... :eyes::eyes:

1954 - four years old - don't remember much except playing in the sand in the back yard and loving being around my mom

[Edited on 2005/10/21 by shortcat1]

[mrgodo]

You can blame Conn Smythe then. That makes 11 in my book. If they decided to change their name again, I'd say they start over. How many cups did the Quebec Nordiques win? Or the Atlanta Flames? Around Ottawa, people will try and tell you that Ottawa has won 7 times. But they don't like claiming the infamous title of being the team to have gone the longest without winning the cup (78 years and counting).

There's only one other entity to have won the cup 11 times.

Henri Richard

[simonus]

this doesn't make any sense. Why do the Coyotes have Bobby Hull's jersey retired?

Name changes are much less drastic than team moves.

If you believe name changed should void cup totals, then you have to minus one cup of the canadiens since the 1916 team was called the "club athletique canadien" instead of the "club de hockey canadien".

[mrgodo]

can't you find any joy in recognizing that the toronto maple leafs, not the toronto st. pats, not the toronto arenas, not the toronto maple leafs/st. pats/arenas combo team, just the toronto maple leafs, have the same number of cups to their name as Henri Richard.

You're a leaf fan, aren't you?

[simonus]

Originally posted by mrgodo

You're a leaf fan, aren't you?

That's a little outside the bounds man!

As a good habs fan I have no need to diminish the accomplishments of others in order to make my team look good.

[Dutch_Habs_Fan]

Originally posted by shortcat1My great grand-mother told me once, when I sat beside her reading an Astérix book about how hockey was invented by the Gauls in Julius Ceaser's time... you know the one where Obélix uses a 'menhir' incorrectly shaped as a very dull scythe which was only good for cutting down the Roman legionaires but that suited the village very well so much that Assurancetourix, the bard wrote a song about it called "La roche que râpait les Romains" and, of course, since he was such a bad composer and an even worse singer so that he was again tied and gagged and left hanging grumbling a obout the fact that he couldn't share in the feast of barbecued boars because he was such a bore and it was better to be left hanging that to be a barbecued bore because you know that this would be a very tasteless thing to do and as bland a treat as you could ever not hope to have and... oh... ya... I forgot what I was talking about.... :eyes::eyes:

I have no clue:?-:idea::?-

:guru:

[loved1986]

Who is tied with them for second?

[mrgodo]

As simonus will point out, no one.

By my erroneous estimation, Henri Richard has just as many cups as the Toronto Maple Leafs... 11. However, the Toronto Franchise claims 13 cups.