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The Chicoutimi Cucumber

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  1. Commandant wanted Hughes. Smart boy, that Commandant!
  2. Allow me to intervene in this argument between Habs29 and hockeyrealist as follows: Montreal was 19th overall in GAA for the 2019-20 season. That suggests a mediocre back end for sure. Montreal was also 1st overall in GAA for the 2019-20 playoffs. That suggests an elite back end for sure. http://www.espn.com/nhl/statistics/team/_/stat/scoring/sort/avgGoalsAgainst/seasontype/2/order/false What explains this wild contradiction? The most obvious independent variable is Carey Price. If Price shows up in Beast Mode, the Habs suddenly become elite defensively. (And unlike other guys such as Hart, we know from extensive experience that Price's excellence is never a "product" of the D in front of him. He is the difference-maker). That tends to support Habs29's view that our "elite team D" really boils down to one man being superhuman. There's another thought, though, which is that we have the kind of defencemen who can raise their games for limited stretches and become really hard to play against. Remember "The Trident?" No one was talking that way during the regular season. What happened was that old war-horses, in particular Weber and Chiarot, got some rest from the long stoppage and came back strong; their decidely average mobility is rewarded when the refs stop calling interference in the playoffs; and - maybe this is the real key - they are able to bring their physically punishing A-game night after night because they know it's only going to be a finite battle. They do better in a sprint than a marathon, in other words. The restoration of Kulak was also significant. Suddenly we had a decent second-tier rushing defenceman who could play meaningful minutes. It wasn't all Petry. If the above is correct, then what can we expect for 2020-21? The addition of Jake Allen - assuming that he is used properly - should increase the odds of a rested Price not crapping out. That alone should make a significant bump in our team defensive numbers, moving us, say, from 19th overall to perhaps low teens. The addition of Edmondsun may help to spell off Chiarot a bit. But I simply don't believe that Weber and Chiarot can play with that level of intensity over 82 games. Weber will be yet another year older to boot. So I'm not expecting the "Trident" or any equivalent to be a thing all season. Trident members will be what they were last regular season. Between a resurgent Kulak and Romanov, we should be able to meaningfully improve in the puck-moving, offence-from-the-back-end dimension. All things considered, then, I would not be surprised if the Habs turn in a better-than-league-average team D performance next season. We will be better than 19th overall; maybe we'll even flirt with the top-10. Calling the Habs' D "elite" (as hockeyrealist wants to do) seems a stretch, however: an unduly optimistic reading based on a ridiculously small sample-size of 10 play-in/off games.
  3. But that contract turned out to be very smart by the Isles. In other words, they were right to sign Streit, we were wrong to let him walk. As for Souray, I was baffled at the time that we kept him, given that the team at the time was garbage and had no chance of doing any damage even if it squeaked into the playoffs. He could have secured a king's ransom. God bless Bob, but he sure made a lot of mistakes. Letting Hainsey and Beauchemin go for nothing...giving up Ribeiro for free, when the franchise had zero C...letting Souray and Streit walk...losing Grabovski for a bottom-pairing D-man on a team desperate for C...the Gomez disaster, of course...it just was not an era marked by strong asset management.
  4. It’s ancient history, but those were very costly wasted assets. Either guy would have helped improve the blue line in their time. I guess Habs29’s point is that the Habs have a too-long-standing practice of squandering D-men. You could even add Streit to the list - allowed to walk as a UFA, he emerged as a very good puck moving d-man on the Island.
  5. Well, we know every team in the league is banging down MB's door to try and get Domi + Mete 😉
  6. You know, Dumba was quite productive until he dropped off this season. I'm not sure I agree that he should be written off as a "defence only" guy. Rumours are flying hard in Van about a Boeser-Dumba move. One could argue that that makes sense for both sides. Count me among those who don't see MB getting especially creative with the D. I suspect we will stand pat and hope the Czar looks good.
  7. Mea culpa, for some reason, when I wrote that, I was remembering it as a 3rd-round pick. That's what I get for writing messages at 6:30 in the morning 😬
  8. I was shocked Vegas was dispatched so easily. That’s not a slag on Dallas, but Vegas seemed like a battle-tested complete team with depth up and down the roster. Oh well. Tampa’s injuries will complicate its path. A Dallas-NYI series might be the most boring Final imaginable, except for Barzal.
  9. Agree. The Habs seem to be banking an awful lot on Eyeontheprize's analysis of how Edmundson plays under a zone D system.And maybe it'll work out, at least until Julien is fired. But in the context of this constrained marketplace, that seems a mighty generous contract for a guy who will likely not have teams banging down the door to pay him over $4 mil. Of course he hasn't signed yet. But i don't like the rumour much. When you think they traded a meaningful pick just to have an edge in signing him...they must really like this guy. I know MB signed Petry, and thank God. But if you look at the kind of d-man he seems to prioritize, it's Weber, Alzner, Chiarot, now Edmunson - even though Petry and Kulak were every bit as important to the little playoff run we had as were Chiarot and Weber. MB threw away Sergachev and Markov and couldn’t play hardball enough with Subban before shipping him out. I'm not crazy about this apparent preference for D-men who resemble the player Bergevin was over guys who can skate, move the puck, and create from the back end, especially on a team starved for offence.
  10. The main argument is that Edmundson players better under a zone system, which is what the Habs use. The inference is that he may be a legit second-pairing guy in that context. (This is the kind of analysis you never seem to get from mainstream media). And yes, he seems to be a built-for-the-playoffs guy, according to the advanced stats.
  11. Excellent analysis here: https://www.habseyesontheprize.com/analysis/2020/9/13/21434309/joel-edmundson-video-analysis-advanced-stats-canadiens-trade-blues-hurricanes-defensive-system
  12. I'm pretty sure that Winnipeg can do better than a problematic #2 C and a #5 d-man and 'some other stuff' for an elite talent like Laine. Smart GMs don't trade a core player for a middling team's spare parts. Like I joked in another thread, Domi + Mete is the new Ryder + a 2nd...
  13. Ok well if that’s true then it’s a great deal - provided we sign him.
  14. Don’t get this deal...I suppose if we sign him a 5th is reasonable for a potential bottom pairing guy, but it has a faint whiff of ‘we have so many picks we can throw them around at will.’
  15. No, no, of course, Lehkonen is a fine player. A prototypical 3rd line, checking FW. I meant that he is sewage offensively, which is correct. And if Danault is looking at wingers like that, he is probably going "holy cow...I'll be lucky to get 35 points next season"
  16. "I'd consider moving Danault - no one is untouchable, and his comments about not wanting to be just a checker strike me as a bit ominous, if we see Suzy and KK as imminent top-6 C. But his departure would represent a really significant step back at C for this team. I could only see him being dealt as one piece in a high-impact deal bringing back major player(s). More likely by far, he stays put." The implausibility of going from that to the conclusion that I "want to hitch the Habs to two unproven but promising rookies" is what led me to conclude it was a smart remark. But no harm done, it's all good
  17. At least read my post before making smartass remarks
  18. True. But as it stands right now, our W are pretty weak - and a C looking at being on the third line is probably contemplating linemates like Lehknonen, Weal, etc.. Ugh. So no matter how much the coach says, "hey, feel free to play offence," if you're playing with plumbers, you're gonna get sewage.
  19. I'd consider moving Danault - no one is untouchable, and his comments about not wanting to be just a checker strike me as a bit ominous, if we see Suzy and KK as imminent top-6 C. But his departure would represent a really significant step back at C for this team. I could only see him being dealt as one piece in a high-impact deal bringing back major player(s). More likely by far, he stays put.
  20. The problem is that they reportedly want impact, NHL-ready D. We have two guys who qualify, one who MB almost certainly will not trade, and the other locked up only for one more year. The rest of our D is middling-to-mediocre at best. There's no fit. On your wider point, yes, it may be a propitious year to either sign or peel away an impact player from another club in cap/revenue purgatory. We'll see...
  21. I tend to agree with your analysis of what would tempt Winnipeg, but MB is not trading Weber. Especially not for a guy who has been a bit of a "problem." The only time he doesn't care about "character" is when he's trading away a stud defensive prospect for a francophone #6 FW. I will be shocked if Weber does not "age out" in Montreal, much as Chara has done in Boston. 99.99% sure Laine ain't gonna be a Hab.
  22. Hall is a legit top-line W, but if you look at his career stats, he's been quite inconsistent. That 53-point season in NJ raises the harrowing spectre of signing him to a huge deal and getting back a guy who gives you 55-65 points. That'd be just our luck. I am a huge skeptic, meanwhile, of "rumours" about "character." All I give a sh*t about is if the guy produces, not whether he conforms to the NHL's preferred ideal (which really only solidified in the 1990s) of a character-less robot. See Phil Kessel, derided for years as a fat slob and a "problem," but in fact a consistently dangerous and electrifying player who now happens to have a Cup ring - unlike a lot of the talentess androids/workout demons the NHL loves to canonize. Doubts aside, if the Habs do land Hall, I will be on board and hoping he delivers his A-game, rather than moaning about his contract. If you sign a big-name UFA you're going to overpay. It's practically an immutable law of nature.
  23. One never knows...but I suspect to land a big fish like Laine you're going to need to give back some elite or near-elite assets. I could see Domi + Petry + pick being of some interest, but Petry's age and contract status would probably kibosh the deal.
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