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So you're saying that secondary assists are equally as important when compiling point totals? And to answer your question, yes, I do think that the voters actually do research and put actual thought into their vote. This is their livelihood and they are basically the best at what they do. He was among the league leaders in points by a dman when he went down and yet still only received two stinking 4th place votes, while playing 82% of the season. Connor McDavid only played 54% of the season and was still a finalist for the Calder But we don't have any other coach. This coach was selected by the GM because he fits the style that the GM wants to play and believes is successful. Therrien is going to be Therrien, so if there's blame to be had it should be on Bergevin. But I'm not one to pass blame onto a management group that has brought this team to an Eastern Conference final, a semi-final and a 2nd overall finish in the regular season. It's very much true that Subban rushes practically never led to goals. He'd make some nice plays to make us "oooh and ahhh", but the end result wasn't a goal. Personally I love the individual plays, but I'm a fan. It is terribly frustrating as a player or coach to have someone go against what the rest of the team is doing. Everyone on the ice is expecting one thing but they get another and they don't know where to go on the audible play. Is there a stat out there for turnovers per possession of puck? Seriously, I'd like to know Hockey is a team sport and it needs everyone pulling in the same direction. This day and age everything is so precise and telegraphed from a game plan point of view. Otherwise it may as well be my rec league where it doesn't matter if a guy tries to do too much. I'm just going to leave this here as well: "Just physically, he's man mountain. When he looks at you, you know business. He's as good a human being as I've ever been around, period. So he doesn't have to say much - all he's got to do is look at you and you snap into shape. He makes you a better coach. If you haven't been cross-checked in the ribs by him you find out what that is, too. He cuts a big swath out there. He shoots it so hard no one wants to stand in his lane. But what I like about him best is when he walks into the dressing room you know it's business. And so he's a culture-type person. He makes your franchise better when he walks in the door. Bar none." -Arguably the best coach in the world, Mike Babcock describing Shea Weber

The thing is it looks like Price and the rest of the team actually did buy into the system and want to win with it and we're having success with it per past years and the beginning of last year. It really is too bad Subban couldn't get on board with it. I really don't think it has anything to do with being a "robot" or talk like that.

If we are talking recent Norris trophy voting, look no further than last season. Not more than 4 seasons ago, not since an apparent drop off in play, 2015-2016.....last season. Weber - 1 2nd place vote, 1 3rd place vote, 4 4th place votes, 3 5th place votes Subban - 2 4th place votes So either Norris votes matter or they don't, not whichever narrative you are trying to portray at the particular time