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He's insurance for the 4th line if Poehling has a bad camp. Otherwise he's the 13th forward.

I keep seeing this name on the boards... Is there a Suter out there known for loving pie or something?

So with Byron and Armia both on 3.4m a year contracts, we're going to have a 4th line making over 7 million. That is lunacy.

At least Byron was giving us 20 goals when he got that kind of money. Aside from the controversial draft pick, this is Bergevin's worst move in the last year.

I like what the NFL does. If you don't get your pick in on time, the next team(s) can rush in and make their pick. I remember one year the Vikings were taking offers on their pick, but a trade with the Ravens did not get submitted on time, so the next team in line (who had been one of the teams trying to get the Vikings pick) rushed up and got the guy they wanted for free. I believe another team rushed in their pick in before the Vikings finally submitted their pick, as well.

Didn't they have a really tall goalie a few years ago? I looked all over their AHL rosters the last 20 years and couldn't seem to find it. Not sure if I was somehow overlooking him or if he didn't exist.

Seems like a fair price to me, though I don't think another right hand forward would have been a good fit for us. Toffoli, Suzuki, Caufield, Anderson. We already very right heavy up front.

How would one go about doing that? Asking for a friend...

What money? He's a 17 year old kid that might be making $75,000 in two or three years playing in the minors on an ELC. She went to the police with the allegations and got justice. And she is absolutely right about a text apology not being enough. If he didn't say it to her face or at least over the phones then it is hard to believe that he is sorry for anything more than getting caught. This wasn't some baseless allegation. He was convicted of a crime. Yes, some women use sex as a money grab. But assuming that every allegation against a "famous" guy is a money grab does nothing but empower such people to do bad things. It just lets them know that people won't (want to) believe it without proof. Look how many women had to come forward against Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, etc. before people started believing it wasn't just greedy women out for a payday?

This is baffling. If you're going to rebuild, then sure, ship out Atkinson. But for Voracek? What the heck?!?! You trade one of the few good players willing to sign long term for a similarly aged player with a bigger contract? The baffling moves continue.

I would hope so. I just brought them up to make the point that the majority of the fan base will quickly forgive him if he turns out to be a good player. There will be a token reminder every now and then, but largely it will be water under the bridge.

Let's be honest, if he is a legit NHL talent, by the time he is in the NHL making an impact, a big chunk of the fan base will have forgotten about it altogether or say something to the effect of "I don't like the guy, but he helps the team win, so go Habs!" As long as a player plays at a high level, most fans will overlook just about anything. Just watch the Kareem Hunt and Ray Rice videos. Rice was washed up and was thus blacklisted. But because he was still an elite talent, Kareem Hunt was snatched up an immediately and after an initial ruckus, that died down as soon as he started scoring touchdowns.

Of course it is not a sure thing that that is how things would progress. I'm not saying that it's written in stone that anyone who does this is going to become a sexual predator. But, there is no denying that that type of progression is how many, many sexual assaults happen. Things start out consensual and the guy takes that initial consent as carte blanche to do whatever he wants. I hope that you are right and I hope he does earn this second chance that he has already been handed. Hopefully has has learned the lesson early enough that he will actually change. Getting people to learn that anything sexual needs consent is incredibly important for our society.

I did some searching on this back when he was a free agent and I had a hard time finding anything about whether or not he stayed with that psycho. It sounded like he dumped her, but I couldn't find anything concrete. But given that he was run out of Ottawa, I'm guessing it wasn't something where he condemned her actions and dropped her immediately.

It's a slippery slope. The first few times, it's sharing a non-consensual picture. Then it's a video. Then it's not taking no for answer because you have to have something to show your buddies. The fact remains he did something sexual with a girl and not everything about it was consensual.

Only disappointing if he is the only D they acquire, at least in my opinion.

So groupies and puck bunnies deserve to be mistreated. Got it. Really enlightening thinking. You are incredibly naive if you don't think this kind of thing happens all the time. They have the law on the books for a reason. The only thing him being a "star" hockey player has to do with anything is how public the situation was. To me, it would send the message that the league doesn't approve of such behavior. They can't suspend him, but not drafting him forces him to go through the whole process all over again. He goes from getting a good ELC with bonuses to risking having a bad season and tumbling down the draft board. It is a consequence that must be faced. Poor dlbalr, in here trying to talk hockey in the draft thread.

Nobody is giving Savard 1st pairing money. He's not that kind of player. But he will get 2nd pairing money. I expect him to get a similar contract to Larsson. Ideally you bring him in along with a more offensively talented defender like Barrie and have a 2nd pairing calibre player on the 3rd pairing. But they can do worse than having Savard on the second pairing.

I don't give a crap about the public opinion. The FACT is that he committed a crime that involved sex. He photographed a sex act without consent and went out of his way to personally identify her in the picture. This isn't some kid who sent a nude to another person and was shocked that it got shown to friends. If you let the little things slide, you just enable worse behavior. You shut down behavior like this and you cut down big time on the number of people who develop into sexual predators. You think Cosby jumped right into drugging women? I'm not calling the kid a predator, but he is certainly more likely to become one than someone who knows it is not ok to do what he did.

I hope you never have to serve on a jury.

This is exactly why all 32 teams should have agreed to the request to not draft him. Let him prove that he won't repeat this kind of behavior and rehab his character. Make him serve out a punishment of going another year going through the draft process. His crime does not warrent never being allowed to play pro hockey, but it should have at least delayed that career. Stopping predatory behavior begins with stopping lower level crimes like this.

Not his girlfriend. Why is he having relations of a sexual nature with her? They BOTH showed poor judgement engaging in the act. But to photograph sexual acts and post them on social media without consent is more than poor judgement. It is a crime. And he went out of his way to show off who the picture(s) involved. He put thought into doing that.

What. The. Actual. F?

I remember thinking that he wouldn't be the same player, but I don't recall thinking it was a career ending situation.

Just like when they drafted McDonagh over Angelo Esposito, and when they didn't trade the picks used to take Pacioretty and Subban when Esposito continued to fall.