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We are paying $1.5M for Moen, I'd rather move Moen and pay Jagr double that.

I know he isn't a UFA, but have read the Islanders will probably trade his contract before the draft. At $550k, I'd imagine there would be a bidding war for him.

Well, I hate to beat a dead horse, but if we could bury Gomez in the minors we could afford to pay for Jagr. Forwards: Cammi-pleks-Jagr Gionta-Eller-maxpax Desharnais-ufa/laich-ak46 White-ufa/halpern-Boyd/other Hamilton option Defencemen: Markov-emelin Subban-gorges Wiz-weber Gill Goalie: Price Nabakov Of course to afford this lineupaim order to be under the cap we would have to bury Gomez in the minors AND find a sucker/creative way to dump Spacek

I'd love to get him, but he would have to be cheap and Jagr and cheap usually have not gone togetherl

i hope the habs finally do sign this guy - I won't be holding my breath until its official though. Anyone know the seriousness of the ankle injury - ie. sprain vs. break?? It would be pretty cool if we can find a way to dump Spacek and have a D consisting of the following: Markov-Emelin Subban-Gorges Weber-Gill Diaz I'd like to inject youth and speed into this past year's slow/old D core that we had. If we can also fit Wiz into lineup and have Gill as the seventh Dman, with Diaz as a potential platoon from hamilton, we would really be set. Having a pairing of a solid offensive Dman on each pairing with a solid defensive partner who is also capable of moving the puck AND also having a defenseman on each pairing who isn't afraid to play phyiscal would really give us one of the best D's in the league

typical Bruins crap at the end of the game against TB. Isn't there supposed to be a rule against that crap in the last two minutes. There NEEDS to be suspensions for that kind of crap - Lucic would be a repeat offender many times over for that nonsense. BUt of course with their heads up their aXX will never take action against this type of BS and naturally with Coli Campbell's son playing for the Broons, there is no chance in hell of the NHL doing the right thing

I think over the past two years, I've made it pretty clear how much I liked Sk74. The issue with him was the same with a lot of hab prospects, rushing them through, before they were mature enough to be on the big team and then the team doing a lousy job of dealing with a kid they rushed.

O'Byrne's -18 isn't much different the Wiz's +/- the islanders. The Avs fell of the face of the earth in the second half. EVERYONE on that team sucked. I think we got a decent prospect from him, but we can't keep up shedding our defensive prospects - particulary ones that have the potential to be strong physical net clearing forces. Particularly when it seems every year we are shedding draft picks for defensive rentals. I also think O'Byrne is going to go on to be at least a solid #4 type dman for the Avs. I'm not sure if Bournavil is going to address the same type of concern we have with all of our offensive prospects - lack of size.

You gotta be kidding me?? Brian Murray should have been fired for following up the Kovolev signing with signing Gonchar. He is pretty much washed up, is a one dimenstional old Dman. He was great Dman in his day, but he is not an upgrade. On top of that you want to throw in Weber??? Haven't we already made that mistake by throwing in McDonough AND the rights to the other russian dman (name escapes me now - guy who bolted to the KHL), on top of that. That would mean we gave up three damn good defensive prospects for the honour of taking two has been lousy contracts. I really don't understand why people are so eager to give upon Weber. I think he can be a solid #3/#4 dman with a great offensive upside in a cojuple of years. Have we not learned from giving up on O'Byrne???

I thought that for a big guy he really doesn't bring a lot of physicality. There were a lot of nights where with less ice time (since Moen was on the top 2 lines), he had a lot less hits then Pouliot and Ak46. Being one of the bigger guys on the team, he needs to be more physical then he was and I definatley wouldn't want Ryan White to play like Moen did. After his last call-up Ryan White was hitting everything in site, Moen most nights was more of a pussycat then a tiger. Not what I'd want on from a guy who should be a 4th liner getting $1.5M.

they gave him a 3 year deal??? Damn, i thought he was only signed to a 2 yr deal. Well, that adds another guy to my dump list.

Nothings impossible, but given the length of Gomez's salary it is improbable. I said back in October that Edmonton would be a good trading partner for Gomez, given that they were trying hard to get rid of Souray and they needed a centre to play between and mentor their young wingers. We could then let Souray rot away in the minors. But given that Souray only has one year left now and Gomez sucked even more this year then last year, I think the Edmonton ship has sailed. Other teams that need to get to the cap floor like the Islanders or Panthers, probably wouldn't want to pick up a guy with the term that Gomez has left.

I really don't want to give up on Ak46 - i'd even be willing to give him a 3-4 year deal. IMO the guys we need to unload are Gomez and Spacek and the guys we absolutely shouldn't be resigning are Moen, Hamrlik, Halpern, Mara and Auld. I also don't want Gill back unless we do manage to get rid of Spacek.

I'd have no issue of adding Frolov on a cheap contract. The original posting I replied to had Frolov/Harntell as a replacement for AK46.

I don't know, I think Cammi, Gionta, AK46 are all guys that could be more effective in a different system.

I hope he has the same mild concussion as Crosby. I hate the bruins, despise them, loath them. While I don't like teams that tank for a few years and accumulate #1 picks to restock and hate how the french media go ga-ga over the lightening because of the quebecers on the team, I really HATE, DESPISE and LOATH the Bruins. Did i make it more clear how much I HATE the bruins??? Just like I hate the flyers (for the same reason as the Bruins), I was hoping the flyers would knock the bruins out - and rooting for the flyers is not easy - because they are almost as dirty as the bruins. But as I said after the bruins knocked off the habs, the big bad boys from boston pretty much had a fairly easy path to the final 4, because the flyers have no goalie. Anyway, I'd much rather root for a team like TB who tanks it then root for the cockroaches from boston. I'm also hoping for a TB-Nashville final out of spite for the CBC. The habs took the bruins to seven games because they have one of the best goalies in the NHL. the flyers got swept because they played goalies that would be iffy in the AHL playoffs. I'd say sweeping the Caps is a little more convincing then beating going to the wire and beating them in 7 games. They also didn't need Roloson to steal games the same way as halak did in the habs wins.

I don't see how Frolov is an upgrade over AK46. Andrei has been much more consistent then Frolov and he plays a more physical game.

BTW, It really sucks to be in Montreal in May without Hockey. Just got in last night for a business trip, was really hoping the habs would still be playing during my trip. It sucks to be staying so close to the Bell centre and seeing trucks lined up for some other event.

I really hope Bergeron is out for more then 1 or 2 games. The Bruins deserve to lose their best player to a concussion at a critical time the way they go head hunting!!!! With the exception of the flyers, no team deserves to lose their top guy to concussions as much as these two do. I'd mention the Pens, but I think with Crosby out most of the year, karma already caught up with them for employing Matt Cooke.

I hope the habs sign both to 10-14 year deals at a reduced rate, rather then just the usual habs 2-5 year deals. Those are two guys I want to see in a Habs uniform for a LONG time!

Hell, to me it would be a no brainer to take a flyer on Frolov, if we could sign him for under $1.5M and then eat Gomez's salary.

Hey when the habs let Boucher go, I lamented the fact then and at that time the reply was that the Penguin has a solid track record and what has Boucher proven in the NHL and that we should let him learn to fail somewhere else before we hire him. Well that decision turned out well. Boucher has taken a non-play-off team from last year and took them at least as far as the Penguin coached the habs to, not only beat the caps in less games (sweep no less), but also beat the Caps in a much more convincing manner, has his team playing a much more exciting brand of hockey, he is a coach who has a real system, which doesn't require his goalie to be the first star in every game to win. I've been lamenting his loss since we let him go, so I'm not about to stop now.

Gomez is supposed to be at his best in the playoffs and wasn't he something in the 30 percentage range on the draw. At least Laich is a guy who can get 20 goals, plays an honest game, plays a two way game with a real effort and brings the kind of physicality that Gomez can only talk about. The only drawback with trying to pick him up I see, is that someone may get stupid and actually pay him 2 to 3 times what he is getting or like a #1 or #2 centre, kind of like the deal Madden got few years back - in which case, I'd pass on him.

If we picked up Souray, I think we'd have to eat his salary as well. only advantage is that its only for one year. The guy sucked even in the minors and was injured as well. To make that trade, you just have to hope that Souray gets hurt and stays on LTIR. I'm hoping and if ownership is really serious, the need to eat his salary. The two best moves Sather made in the last 10 years were trading away Gomez and dumping Redden to clean up part of the mess he created. PG needs to do the same with Gomez and Spacek. The only difference is that at least Spacek is only signed for one more deal and he has a salary that with enticements can be moved.

I think the restrictions on your post, pretty much is self-serving to say we have to keep Gomez and give him another chance. There is no way anyone is going to be dumb enough to trade for Gomez unless we were to go to a team like the islanders or panthers (who wouldn't want to pay that much to Gomez anyway, even to to get to the cap floor) and say that we will give gomez and our 1st and 2nd and third pick for their 5th pick. I doubt if some owner was dumb enough to give Mike Milbury another shot at the GM's job, even a complete idiot like Milbury wouldn't trade for Gomez. The only options I see for Gomez is give him another chance (one that i don't support) or move him to Hamilton for 1 year and then hope either changes in the CBA will allow us to dump his lazy ass, or someone will be willing to pick up his cap hit in 2012-13 when his salary is considerably less then his cap hit. On the other hand, i do see someone like Florida who needs to get to the floor willing to pick 1 year of Spacek's if we packaged Spacek and say a third pick for a 4th or 5th pick. incentive for the team would be they may also be able to pick up something else for Spacek at the trade deadline by moving him again. I wouldn't mind dropping in the draft to unload Spacek's salary, in order to have a shot to solidify our D by being able to have flexibility to resign Markov/Wiz/Gorges/Gill or if we dump Gomez, resign Markov/Wix/Gorges/Bieksa. I don't know everyone is so concerned about who to pick up if we dump Gomez??? How hard is is to pick up a centre that can produce 45 points???? IMO, ownership should eat Gomez's cost for this year and then move him, or hope the new CBA allows better options to deal with lousy contracts like Gomez the in 2012-13. For next year, I'd much rather have ownership step up eat Gomez's salary and move him the following year. I'd rather have the habs go after a centre with size like Brooks Laich and peg him into a third line role and give Eller a shot at the #2 spot. I'd also rather have Desharnais on the wing rather then continue using him as a centre. If Eller shows he is not ready to make the move, you move Laich to #2 - which is still a hell of a better option then a lazy gomez, who can't score, backcheck, or win a faceoff of his life depended on it.