Lovett's Magnatones

I'm not convinced this isn't a troll account.

You're creating a straw man, DON. The argument isn't whether Jim Nill did a good job of creating a contender, the argument is whether quality centers are available.

Why don't they I remember Timmons bragging about Vejdemo. 4 goals in 50 games this year. Maybe it's time to move on from Timmons?

Bergevin on centers, paraphrased: 1. They're not available, ever, and don't you forget it. 2. You have to draft them. 3. Alex Galchenyuk is a winger. So, the greatest team need isn't avaliable, and they can't develop it when they have their pick of any center in an entire draft. Sounds like he's admitting he can't do his job and he should resign.

I really think that the team peaked in 2013-2014 and 2014-2015 and Bergevin failed to recognize it. Not being snide, but he thought he was building a Chicago and lost sight of all that wasn't three inches in front of his nose. The goal of building a contender to compete year after year was lofty and highly suspect. Only the Penguins, the Hawks, and the Capitals (to an extent) have hung on at that level since the salary cap. And they have the best players in the game, which is why they've been able to shuffle around depth pieces to rejig contenders through multiple iterations. If you have Toews, Kane, and Keith or Sid, Malkin, and Letang, a couple of early exits can be tolerated to find the right mix. They should have gone for it in 2014-2015. They really had the team to make some serious noise and Bergevin's acquisition was Jeff Petry. Pathetic! He totally misread the situation and they went out much like they did this year-with a hermetic defense that wasn't hermetic enough to shut the other team out every game, which was pretty much the only way to the Cup that year and this year. The biggest indictment of Bergevin is player development. In five years, his only draft picks that have made the team full-time are Galchenyuk and Lehkonen. What do they have in common? Neither developed in the organization. Young players consistently struggle to find roles, even the most talented ones.

Eh? EH!

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I don't see him fired this summer. They've got one more season, realistically, to make some noise with the different deals coming up and the age of some players. There are too many balls in the air to have a new GM.

Goalie trades are a mixed bag, but if Price won't sign, or they have other ideas, this has to happen at the draft. I don't see much of a return on a one year deal, frankly. Unless it's futures. What team is a star goalie away from a Cup with a star center to spare?

No kidding. Those guys have nothing left to prove. They're the most successful players of this generation along with Crosby, Doughty, and Patrice Bergeron. This is what I mean when I talk about "impending Leafdom." Someone here, either CC or MoLG first pointed out that it's been so long for this franchise that we think guys like Max and Plekanec are real deal stars instead of great players.

Hahahahaha. That's right, I forgot. Imagine Weber and Lucic as 33 and 36 year olds? If this team isn't careful, they're going to turn into the Canucks.

He did. He got outplayed by probably the most consistent goalie of the last decade, but I wouldn't go as far as to say he's a major reason they lost. He kept the Rangers to 12 goals. The theme song of the series should be "Anything You Can Do, I Can Do Better." The Rags had an answer for everything. Had they not abandoned their neutral zone trap in Games 2 or 3, it could have been a short series.

This is the the question for me: Do we even want this guy to keep tinkering with the team? He traded a franchise player and fired a coach and the results were out in 6. He signed Radulov, great, but he also nickel and dimed him when other teams offered another year. The move worked, but it's the thinking that concerns me. The thinking being that Radulov was another short term bandaid for the offense. Which makes me wonder...does this guy understand the concept of "offense?" Because he certainly doesn't take it seriously. I don't have confidence in Bergevin making the right decision. He'll probably trade Galchenyuk and Beaulieu for Sean Couturier or Ryan Kesler. Can Bergevin learn the lesson? Maybe after this series. He's out of excuses about coaching, character and leadership. The team worked their ass off, they traded for the grittiest grits that ever gritted, and they have a guy good enough to make the top-6 on Team Canada! However, at this point, it's obvious he couldn't build an adequate top-6 with a 100 year head start. It's like Alec Baldwin said in Glengarry Glenn Ross "I told (Mitch and Murray) to do themselves a favor and fire your effin ass." The clock has struck 12, and MB is officially a pumpkin. He'll be gone at the end if next year.

Not if they paid even cursory attention to what happened in Florida this year. Flat hierarchies don't work. It's new aged BS, like Tesla or advanced stats.

Julien BriesBois

To trade references out for politics, Pierre is a lot like Newt Gingrich or Paul Krugman. The three of them are fine analysts, good enough to make you wonder, but they're well out of touch with what actually goes on and makes a winner in 2017.

Price was fine. He didn't steal any games, didn't lose any games. A couple of soft goals in six games. They have to be badly outshot for an entire game and dominated for him to steal a game.

That's a good point. Jumbo Joe is available. Wait...

Fire up the Random Excuse Generator *They're (#1 centers, #2 dmen, popcorn vendors) not available *Need to get (see above) at the draft *You have to spend a lot to give a lot, and some variation of above *I have a voodoo doll of Molson *Isn't this a nice tie?

Between the cultural differences and the impending Leafdom of the franchise, I would give it a three. Very in the offseason, but I don't think Max or Chucky is a Claude kind of player. Bergevin is going to ride Claude as he is the only credibility he has left. More guys like King and Davidson will come in, and hopefully a center. Don't see Max getting traded in the final year of his deal, but it's time to give the C to Weber. What the heck? Max/Chucky/Hudon Simmonds/Couturier? They went out like they came in. A bunch of smallish try-hards that didn't have the talent and didn't have the talent in the right places. Can this team win with Chucky and Max as their nucleus? I don't think so. I wanted to forward corp to be blown up a year or so ago, and I think that's what is going to happen.

With the exception of the 2 players not needing to be named, there's nothing for these guys to be ashamed of. They played their collective bag off. They simply didn't have the horses.

I've got a smaller TV and he hasn't even been in the picture on many shifts.

Why is Tomas Plekanec still on the 1st wave?

First chance of the period is a shot to the crest by Lynnfield's own, Brian Flynn.

That's definitely part of the story. Danault is no puck distributor and Radulov can only do so much.