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is 537 points in 587 games not a clip under a PPG as I suggested? are the stats exaggerated? Because they equate to 0.91 PPG, if that isn't the epitome of a clip under a PPG then please enlighten me as to how I am classically exaggerating. Although I had a feeling he was close to a PPG player his whole career, I still went and did my homework before making the claim in my original post, perhaps you should have done the same instead of now knowing what the front half of your foot tastes like, unpleasant I imagine.

He has averaged a clip under a PPG his entire career, which is more than anyone on this roster or anyone who has been on this roster in what feels like 20 years. A career that might I add is entering its Prime years, with a player who has the tools to remain a significant player because he does not build his game around Speed. Speed is the first thing that goes on a player, and usually when a Player who builds his game from speed loses that, he declines much faster, and when the opposite occurs, they remain effective for much longer. See Jagr, and Chara as prime examples of that, 2 players at 2 different positions who were elite for many reasons other than foot speed, and remain effective long into their twilight years because their greatest strengths never truly dwindle as losing a step does. Point is Tavares could easily be effective until he is 35+ because he is not a point producer because of his speed, but because of his strength, shot, high end individual skill and hockey I.Q. If anyone in this fanbase or in upper management is ready to walk away from a deal that would land him here, after the years of trying to find someone just like him, for any reason other than he doesn't want to come here, or the price to get him is simply astronomical and insane to pay by an standards, then I really don't know what to say.

Re: Tavares Mr. Lovett, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent responses were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. Billy Madison is one of my favorite movies

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain

What does Tavares have to show for his entire career? Carrying the Islanders on his back in the first round vs the Florida Panthers? Or, like Evander Kane, Keith Yandle, and the other rumor mill stalwarts, is he supposed to be as good as Crosby and McDavid just because he's available? I can picture a day...far off into the future on a wooded lake in a forgotten town around July...Carey, Shea, and Tavares talking about the time of their lives at the cabin...those two tournaments in the Olympics on a heavily favored team that went all the way. Oh, the memories!

Fair enough. He wants to stay, so he's not a winner!

"Classically" exaggerated? I didn't know you wrote in Latin or Attic Greek. I can't even read to the bottom of this. Time to refresh the ignore list...

Tavares would go well with the rest of the Habs that can only get it done with a red maple leaf on their chests. He's always been below the top-tier guys like Crosby, Jumbo Joke, McDavid. I think he's PPG for the next couple years and then slides. Pass.

Where Are They Now? 2011-2012 Edition Claude Giroux-94 Jason Spezza-84 Ilya Kovalchuck-83 Henrik Sedin-81 Patrik Elias-78 Ray Whitney-77 Maria Gaborik-76 2012-2013 Edition Martin St. Louis-60 points Eric Staal-53 Mike Ribeiro-49 Pavel Datsyuk-49 Claude Giorux-48 Hank Zetterberg-48 Tavares-47 Andrew Ladd-46 Henrik Sedin-45 The list gets better as the years go on, but you get my point. I don't remember half of these players being dominant. Four or five years out on a Tavares deal could get really stinky. "His whole career" is classic Link67 exaggeration. Tavares had four or five years out of (8?) that are PPG. Don't get me wrong, I've seen him take over games. But the time to sell the store was 2014.

2009-2010 82 games/54 points 2010-2011 79/67 2011-2012 82/81 2012-2013 48/47 2013-2014 59/66 2014-2015 82/86 2015-2016 78/70 2016-2017 77/66 I said: "Tavares had four or five years out of (8?) that are PPG." That is exactly correct. If you based your claim on career points instead a season by season tally you're using the wrong methodology. Since you know, we're talking about how many seasons he was PPG.