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You’re the king of downvoting on this site. No surprise you’re always in the middle of it.

Yup that’s exactly what I said. Congrats on making that clear.

Well, apparently the Habs and many other teams are/were entertaining the idea of bringing in Voynov. That’s why we’re talking about it. It’s not up to you decide whether or not he should make a living in the NHL. You can voice your opinion, but it’s an extreme one and if he does indeed sign a contract in the NHL, many people will have disagreed with you. I’m done being criticized on a topic I’m not overly passionate about. I’m not a fan of what transpired. Let’s make that clear. But placing a hockey player on citizen’s arrest from the league is not how it works. He’ll be a good hockey player wherever he ends up. It’s also silly to think that adding a guy like Voynov would tarnish our storied franchise. We’re not exactly the talk of the league right now. Adding question mark Radulov didn’t seem to hurt us, but I’m not allowed to say that because what happened off the ice “is not the same thing”.

Aren’t you perfectly on board with that?

I think something like 7x7 or 6x7.5 would be reasonable for him. Neither of them were being fully reasonable.

You’re definitely correct but I connect the two. At this point, with a draft pick like Kotkaniemi at 3rd overall I’m believing more and more that we’ll have to suffer at least one more unsuccessful season, without a doubt. Although there is still the whole free agent period, which is how I would attempt to help the team out for next year. With that being said, I’ve always seen the rebuild argument being used in some firm way to argue that we’ll will certainly ice a competitive team in a few years through said method. Until this very season, I’ve pretty much gone into every season as a fan with some hope that we have a chance at success. I think having had Price for many years is part of that. With that being said, if it’s going to be guaranteed that we suffer for a year or two without the possibility of contending, I’d like to know that the management and coaching staff in place is going to create something that will definitely be successful in a few years. I understand that it may not work that way, but it’s perhaps why I’m never a huge fan of the rebuilding mentality. I’d rather try to keep some veterans who can at least hold the fort until the new age comes in.

I can paste quotes as well... The statement reads: 'Marta was stunned by the news today and she is devastated. She did not believe, and does not believe, that her husband intended to injure her and she believes that he is not guilty of any crime. 'She is worried about her family's privacy and concerned that she and her family are going to be subjected to ridicule, embarrassment and hatred because of this decision. 'In fact, she has already seen that beginning to happen. 'It is unfortunate that no one seemed to care what she wants, and that the authorities gave little or no weight to her view of the facts of the case. 'Despite this unwelcome news, she still expects her husband to be cleared of any criminal wrongdoing.' That was in 2014-15. It’s 2018 and there’s never been any news involving her name since.

I’ve seen this said twice now but why is it okay for him to play in Siberia/Russia but not in Canada or USA? Are the rules different there? Is it just because he would be in far away land? Is it because we don’t want him to make money, with a higher salary in the NHL? I’ve been asked such ludicrous questions in this thread such as how I would feel if it were my daughter. I’ve also been labeled a supporter of wife beating, which completely makes me disregard the opinion of those people, considering they are also wrong on their judgemental vision of who I am. I’ll I turn the tables and ask this. What would Voynov’s wife want? Does she want him to be able to play in the NHL? Considering they are still together, I’m sure she would like him to be as successful as he can be. Her opinion is more important than yours. But that’s right. I hear it now. It doesn’t matter what she wants. It doesn’t matter that she stayed with him. It doesn’t matter that he never did it again. One thing that seems very difficult and foreign for some fickle fans on here to understand is that I support players who wear the Montreal Canadiens Jersey. From Sergei Samsonov to PK Subban, to Shea Weber, to Sven Andrighetto, to Michael Ryder, to Erik Cole, I tend to love players while they are on our team. The same people who are judging Voynov here are the same ones who make fun of players while they are on our very team. You will never catch me perpetually making fun of a Habs player while they are on the team. In that sense and in only that sense, I wouldn’t be crying river if the Habs got a 35-40 point player in Voynov. I repeat, foreign concept to those who love to hate players on our own team. If that means I support wife beating in your twisted world, keep saying that out loud. But it’s completely inaccurate. As fans, it’s not up to us to decide who should be and shouldn’t be allowed to play in the league. Some people are treating me like I am the general manager. If Voynov doesn’t get through his legal matters and sign in the NHL, I wouldn’t bat an eye.

So what happens when the plan is to rebuild and 10 other teams secretly adopt that same plan as well? Will it be a short term solution for all ten of those teams? To actually be successful? I can think of many teams who didn’t turn it around in a couple of years after years of drafting, and trading for, top end young talent. Let’s say Edmonton, for one.

No one cares if you support him. And stop being a drama queen.

The people who grade the draft as an A- are looking at it from strictly a draft analysis type of way. If most experts have players in range 3-8 as having the same value, any of those picks are going to qualify as an A in pretty much any of those positions. Similarly, picking the consensus 23 pick at 40 won't seem as much more of a steal than perhaps picking the consensus 28, simce both players were steals anyway. Lastly, picking the consensus 40 at pick 32 won't necessarily seem as as much of a reach, even if pick 30 was available. On the other hand, those fans who had it in their minds that 3 is really better than 4 and 22 is really better than 27 on consensus mock drafts will grade the draft differently because they are looking at things from a different angle. For instance, I personally don't think Kotkaniemi has the skill that Zadina does but others will look at the position playing a factor considering their skill potential is still fairly close. In that sense it's a win for us since he's a center. I had the draft graded as a B- in my mind as well but I do see both perspectives. A- is looking at it objectively and compared to other teams, we probably had an A- draft. I look at it from the perspective that we were at an advantage compared to other teams heading into the draft, however. It's fine to say that Kotkaniemi, Ylonen and Olofsson were projected to be 1st round picks, but Zadina, Akil Thomas and Jared McIsaac were as well. Considering the advantage we had, I graded it relative to the hand we were dealt.

The same people who are complaining about this situation right here are the same ones who poke fun at the types of player Bergevin acquires due to intangibles instead of skill. We were going to draft Tkachuk just because of "character" and that's just one example. What Voynov did in 2014 was terrible. I'm a good person and I care about the "women and children". With that being said, what he did 4 years ago would not take away the 35-40 points he would be guaranteed to put up with us given a full calendar year. Will we sign him? I completely doubt it. Whoever signs Voynov will still get that 35-40 point defenseman and that in and of itself should be good enough to crack some smiles in the locker room.

Yeah and you look wonderful around here with all your constant positivity and hopeful attitude in every topic including this one. I don’t excuse Bergevin for anything but this wouldn’t be a bad decision just because your feelings are hurt about something he did that has nothing to do with hockey. Voynov’s a good hockey player. It’s completely besides the point. People laugh about Bergevin and his character and attitude expressions and then they are in awe when he talks to someone who has had character issues. Give me a break.

What it’s not okay to do is to claim that everything we heard is absolutely accurate and then use it to create some attitude and character narrative in relation to the Habs. This is considering his own wife said there were no translators during questioning and that the police already had assumed they knew everything that had happened beforehand. Women stay with their abusers, sure, but the fact that they stayed together, have had a child since, and nothing more has ever transpired between them makes me indifferent to whether or not he becomes a Hab simply because of his past history. Voynov’s a great player and whoever signs him will likely have a good player on their team. Not a woman abuser who chug’s Vodka during the intermission.

I mentioned it as well but it’s a mistake to think we’re stacked on right D. There’s a substantial difference between having a far superior right defense corps compared to left d than having a stacked right hand side. Truly having an actually stacked right side, would allow us to carry Mete, Alzner and Schlemko just fine.

So what? It’s not like we’d be the only team interested. Let’s not mention anything about the fact that the incident happened in 2014 with the couple having had a child together since in 2015 and still remain married. I don’t care if we get Voynov but it’s interesting to see the fan base joke about Bergevin and his character and attitude claims and then want him executed once he *may* have interest in a player with character issues and actual skill.

Voynov would be nice. Right hand shot makes it look less enticing to most though.

Having been born in Montreal, Canada, if I were a professional hockey player, it would be a dream of mine to play for the Montreal Canadiens. More so than any other team. So something is wrong with them.

I’ve been totally against the rumors on Pacioretty simply because nothing has come out of them, but at the deadline, the Hockey Night in Canada crew (especially Kypreos) kept alluding to the fact that it’s “common knowledge” that Pacioretty wants out of Montreal. Since nothing has happened I’ve taken that with a complete grain of salt but the more time passes by and the more often you hear something like that, though Friedman is from the same crew, the more you have to believe it. I still don’t see us trading Pacioretty before the trade deadline, if at all, but if it happens, this is a trade that I will hope we get a great return on.

An injured Weber would dismantle the chances of most teams who rely on him for a season. I’m sure if you put a little truth serum in his morning coffee, he’s hoping to be healthy and actually contribute to the success of the team. If Weber doesn’t get traded from Nashville, the team takes a completely different path and so he can’t just look at their team and say I wish I was there because the exact same thing would be happening. The type of thought you are displaying is very short term oriented and truthfully should only happen after years on his new team rather than two. Only one of which he played. In 10 years, it’s possible he thinks to himself “if only”. It’s also possible he thinks of the change in positive light.

I’m definitely biased but I don’t see him in Toronto or Boston. Tampa would be a powerhouse with him. I really don’t see him signing anywhere else, actually. 1) Islanders 2) Tampa 3) San Jose 4) Dallas 5) Toronto 6) Montreal 7) Vegas Guess I don’t see him signing here in Montreal either...

Romanov was compared by Timmins as a slightly more energetic Emelin. This was was immediately after I found myself hoping we had drafted our new Koivu and Markov.

At this point, one has to admit it looks beyond unlikely that he signs here. I’m going to just be generic and predict he resigns with the Islanders. Anything else would be... exciting.

I’m almost certain he doesn’t think of things that way so don’t fret about it. Feel bad for him for having got injured for most of the season, not because of Nashville.

We should have drafted Patrick Hornqvist with the 229th pick.