Habby1197 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 For Garth Murray, god no... http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/189021.html Edit: Added the Trade icon (for once there's a trade lol) [Edited on 2005-10-1 by sakiqc] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycing Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 wow. Can Murray here get sent down to AHL without having to clear waivers? This must be a factor if Montreal got him. Looks like Gainey is set on adding more gritty players to the team, or at least the Bulldogs. I'm guessing the chances of Latendresse making the team just increased. [Edited on 30/9/05 by Macaskill] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theberge43 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Weird move ? Clearly to clear a spot ... but weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycing Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Thinking more on this one, I'm guessing Sundstrom will play on that third line with Bonk and Bulis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theberge43 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Vendredi 30 septembre 2005 - (RDS.ca) - Les chances de voir le jeune Guillaume Latendresse commencer la saison avec le Canadien de Montréal viennent d'augmenter. RDS a appris que le Tricolore vient en effet de se débarrasser de Marcel Hossa, qui a pris le chemin de New York pour y jouer avec les Rangers. En retour le Canadien obtient les services de Garth Murray, un joueur de centre de 23 ans, choix de troisième ronde des Rangers en 2001. Il a surtout joué dans la Ligue américaine. Il a toutefois disputé 20 parties avec les Rangers et il totalise un but. Click here to find out more! Quant à Hossa, choix de première ronde en 2000, le Canadien devait le soumettre au ballottage avant de le céder à la Ligue américaine. Le Tricolore ne voulait pas courir le risque de le perdre sans obtenir de compensation en retour de ses services. Il a disputé 59 parties à Montréal, marquant dix buts et récoltant neuf passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habby1197 Posted September 30, 2005 Author Share Posted September 30, 2005 Yeah Murray can be sent down, so Latendresse just made the team IMO... 3 players left to cut, Mark Streit, Raitis Ivanans and one more... either Latendresse, Perezhogin... or Sundstrom gets moved. Stay tuned... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckham Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Wow, I didn't think they could find anyone out there that looked dumber than Hossa, but they managed. Murray looks like an extra from Slapshot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habby1197 Posted September 30, 2005 Author Share Posted September 30, 2005 I hate this move... Garth Murray? Give me a break... Hossa looked great this preseason, I trust Gainey, but this move STINKS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Crunch Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Holy shite. I guess Latendresse just got his spot from montreal. That hurts though. Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycing Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 I figure Sunny and Latendresse get a spot, while they send Perezhogin down to the AHL to dominate there. lol. Zednik - Koivu - Kovalev Latendresse - Ribs - Ryder Bulis - Bonk - Sundstrom Higgins - Begin - Pleks Although, Dagenais can stay, and Latendresse sent down, while Perezhogin may get a shot at the team if Dagenais falls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs71 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 This better be a joke cause hossa was gonna light it up this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Crunch Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 They traded Hossa to keep Sunny. They just did that to keep... My god. Can we pass that as the "extra consideration" for getting Kovalev in the Balej trade? Sunny better show me the damn money this season, Hossa looked great out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toren Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Yeah, I don't like this move at all. Making room or not, we got a bum ######ing return. Garth Murray will never be a regular on this lineup. I'd rather send Latandresse to Juniors and Perezhogin to the AHL for a year. Glen Sather is a smart man sometimes. Pick up the garbage Montreal is shedding. I think we took Edmonton's place as their the big apple's new Farm Team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs71 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 He looked good with bonk. why change a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycing Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Well, I'm sure the NYR are a bit upset they lost the chance to get Latendresse in the draft. I mean, it was the Rangers' pick that Montreal traded up for to snag Latendresse. What a steal. This makes it somewhat more even on all levels. lol. The universe balances itself, even for the Rangers it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habby1197 Posted September 30, 2005 Author Share Posted September 30, 2005 I'm really angry about this one, why not cut Sunny, send him down, hope he doesn't clear waivers instead? Hossa is a bigger, stronger, younger, cheaper, 3rd line option. Man... We better be making a right move here, I'm steaming mad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs71 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 If we wer gonna trade him we should have sent him to washington for witt. plus we would have to throw some picksin here too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toren Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Originally posted by Habby1197I'm really angry about this one, why not cut Sunny, send him down, hope he doesn't clear waivers instead? Hossa is a bigger, stronger, younger, cheaper, 3rd line option. Man... We better be making a right move here, I'm steaming mad. Don't kid yourself. Hossa doesn't have anywhere near the defensive presence that Sundstrum has. There aren't many guys in the league that do. He's an excellent defensive specialist, and as of right now, is still a better player than Hossa. The question is, would that have changed this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Horrible, horrible move! I don't see the need to find Latendresse a spot NOW especially at the expence of loosing a promissing Hossa. This is way too shortsighted and reeks lack of patience. If Hossa had a good first half to the season, they could have gotten a lot more for him. There was no need to rush this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zowpeb Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 I'm okay with dealing Hossa...he's never really amounted to anything for us and the organization has had years to evaluate him. Only problem I have is that I don't think we got equal value for him. I just think that some GM in the league would give up at least a 4th rounder, maybe even more. Hossa is still a guy who is pretty much NHL ready and still has some decent offensive upside in the "new NHL". Murray is at best a 3rd to 4th line player...and probably just a mediocre one at that... As for Latendresse getting his shot...I'm still not sold that this is a smart move with the new CBA. We have players rights for a limited amount of time and he's going to be UFA eligible before his prime years (generally considered to be 26-30). The long term implications of this move are questionable IMHO. I see no reason to have a kid like this continue to develop in the NHL when he could certainly continue that development in the QMJHL. I suppose they figure he's got nothing left to learn there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zowpeb Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Oh and Sundstrom is going to be a nice guy to have in a league that is cracking down on the clutch, grab, obstruction and interference. He plays a smart defensive game instead of one built on physicality and intimidation. Means we've got a defensive specialist who won't be as negatively affected by the new rules... I think Sunny will be quite valuable to us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycing Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Hossa is really unproven. Sure he had a good rookie camp, but obviously Gainey and Co. didn't think it was good enough. We've got other guys, better guys. Sunny is a proven guy who can get the job done night after night. He also holds much more experience than Hossa, and would be a better fit for a defensive third line. And as many were quick to point out all along, coach Julien and GM Gainey both like Sunny, so he was never really going anywhere. Personally, I don't love this move, but I don't hate it either. Murray will add some grit to our AHL team, and who knows, maybe he'll surprise us one day. I'm sure Gainey ran through his options, and this was the best thing he could do. Better than losing him for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toren Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Originally posted by ZowpebOh and Sundstrom is going to be a nice guy to have in a league that is cracking down on the clutch, grab, obstruction and interference. He plays a smart defensive game instead of one built on physicality and intimidation. Means we've got a defensive specialist who won't be as negatively affected by the new rules... I think Sunny will be quite valuable to us... Thank you! At least someone I can agree with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Napier Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Never impressed by Hossa . He's had a shot a few times already and done nothing with them. His numbers in the AHL are less than impressive so what makes you think he is going to do any better in the NHL? This is simply a move to get rid of extra bodies and trying to get something in return. I'm sure Gainey got the best he could for Hossa though I would rather he picked up a draft pick even if it was a later one but I don't know much about the guy we got in return so maybe it's ok. Hossa is getting on in years for a prospect and Gainey just gave up on him. He couldn't wait forever for Hossa to wake up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Napier Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Oh and I also agree that Sundstrom is a valuable player with the new rules coming in. He fills a defensive roll that Hossa couldn't carry out in a million years. We need guys like Sunny in defensive situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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