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Yup drafting Euros sure did hurt us when we took Markov in the 6th round... surely there was a Canadian kid available instead. or Emelin in the third round. or Koivu in the first round (who was our only good first rounder for like the entire decade of the 90s) or Plekanec in the fourth round. and you can go on down the list. Yeah, you can argue that Andrei Kostitsyn was a bad pick, but he's pretty much the only Euro first rounder we've had. Anything later than that is a crap shoot and we've had plenty of Euros who turned out well. But this is besides the point.... you don't make vague generalizations like "Lets not draft Euros, lets draft only Canadian kids." I'd prefer our scouting department isn't concerned with where the kid is born, but how he plays on the ice, and the attitude he has off it. Those are both things specific to an INDIVIDUAL and are not common to people all born in the same area. To believe otherwise is bigotry, plain and simple.

Poor Diaz, he got confused, Mayer told him about the goat and Mr molson, but he gave MT a picture of himself screwing a goat while drinking a Canadian. Could happen to anybody.

The Sedins did not fight back against Marchand because non-retaliation was crucial to the Canucks' entire game plan. They went into the series with a lethal power-play. Vigneault's plan was to let the Bruins draw penalties and then kill them on the PP. The crime in that incident was NOT that Sedin was following the game plan and being a great team player willing to take punishment and humiliation in order to help the team win. It was that the refs declined to call the series in any fashion resembling an actual organized sport, and absolutely not in any fashion consistent with how penalties had been called before that. So a Marchand had free rein to bitch-slap star players all he liked without any fear of being penalized. The Canucks could not win that kind of series. The list of blood-and-guts Euros goes on and on. Lidstrom. Datsyuk. Zetterberg. Forsberg. Chara. Plekanec. Koivu. Salming. Alfreddson. Pleaknec. The Sedins (one of whom merely racked up an iron man streak of 600+ games - wow, what a pussy). Mats Naslund. Etc. etc. etc. This whole thing is a ridiculous trope. Remember when Ottawa dealt Hossa for Heatly and all the fans were excited that they'd finally "Canadianized" the team? How'd that work out? Last I checked, Hossa is the guy with Cup rings and Heatly has degenrated into a whiny mediocrity. None of this has any effect on the stereotype, of course. When a Canadian player is a lazy slob or a bad team guy, that NEVER says anything about Canadian hockey, right? But when a Euro is, well, that's all the evidence we need. It's called confirmation bias, and it's mostly a bunch of bunk.

For Dillon I would hapilly give Diaz a 2nd a 3rd as well as a prospect or DD whichever they prefer. Also, if I was going to trade one of either Patches or Georges its got to be Georges. Patches contract is simply to good not to keep and players like him are infinitely harder to acquire than players like Georges

This is the trade proposal thread so here are a couple proposals... Gorges, Pleks, and Sven to Colorado for ROR and McGinn Diaz, Pacioretty, Bournival, Fucale and a pick to Winnipeg for Buff and Kane Emelin, Leblanc and Bourque to Edmonton for Yak Moen and Murray to L.A. for King Gionta to N.J. for draft pick Briere to Anaheim for draft pick DD and Markov to Chicago for Saad Picks and Prospects to Nashville for Josi Subban Tinordi Josi Beaulieu Pateryn Boullion/Drewiske Buff - ROR - Gallagher Kane - Gally - Yak Saad - Eller - McGinn King - White - Prust