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Those goalie stats are pretty wild.

Sorry to jump in the middle of a discussion with a seperate point but.. Where do we think Gallagher is as a player now? On a mediocre team would he be a middle six? Exclusively a 3rd line guy? Or is he broken down to 4th line? Obviously his likelihood of injury would make any team weary but would he be a league min, 2M, 3M? What is he at now?

Hjorth... haven't seen that name before!

Yeah I think the issue there is that guys with bonuses being sent down is suboptimal for reasons @dlbalr understands 😛

I'm so curious what they are going to do. Is it basically confirmed now that price will have to go on ltir?

Is there an updated list of guys at camp still?

I mean just in terms of enjoyment... I do enjoy watching Anderson a lot.

What's the Karlsson trade for us now? Out Mike Hoffman Rem Pitlick In Tanner Pearson - chance of deadline move but likely not given injury history. Gustav Lindstrom - probably just not resigned. Nathan Legare - probably just not resigned. 2nd 2025 3rd 2025 4th 2025 + 2.3M Dead Cap for 2 Years Not bad but we are up in capspace now. Will be hard to be able to put price on IR. Any ideas out there?

I really don't remember the players union being this engaged before. Am I right in that? Or perhaps things normally are done quietly because players also don't want a media circus.

Funny how games look different. Found Tourigny very interesting. Roy to me really felt above the rest the team. Meanwhile, I only noticed Smilanic when he was giving the puck over and Ortiz was particularly sketchy imo. Though I agree with everyone that Mailloux was all over the place.

My idea wasn't them both at the point. Was to have a qb on the back with Souray with Caufield playing closer on the other side. Regardless I agree that having the traditional weber/Souray pp setup doesn't work. I just don't think that means a player with that shot isn't useful on the pp.

Maybe if you had Souray on one side and a Caufield on the other. Then the d can't cheat as easy but you'd ideally want the point shot to be able to do a good seem pass. It's just about diversity of looks.

Think Byron is retiring?

Yeah, he may have a rough rookie year adjusting to the speed (as many dmen seem to).

The whole bit about him not handling the puck well in his own end under pressure.. at the ohl level.. is a tad more of a concern I'd say. Considering he has more of a size and skating advantage there.

In my mind... we really got a 2nd for Hoffmann unretained before the season even started! That is a huge win. Everything else is just gravy on top... Petry will get a return of some kind. Win there. DeSmith will either outplay Allen or get claimed on waivers. Pitlick was likely just going to sit in the A or get claimed off waivers too.

I was oddly focused on rooting for him. Saw him in the Mem cup and loved his game. Bummed injuries have taken such a toll.

You said you didn't understand why Hoffmann was targetted as much as he has. I just said some reasons people do. Felt your comment was a tad hyperbolic going with the 19 year old 😛

It's not a 19 old Roy that he's taking a spot from. It's 23 Ylonen or 24 RHP. RHP probably will start the season in the AHL because of Hoffman existing. He'll need offensive minutes to boost value when one of these heading into their prime could prove themselves instead. He doesn't really help his teammates produce. He doesn't do anything on defense. Plays with the intensity of a slug. Basically just bad modelling for a player like Caufield who's best weapon is also his shot.

Yes but we aren't contending and don't have contracts that will really test our cap. My point was people won't be hating on him too hard because it doesn't really matter. he will still work incredibly hard and be a great leader on the third line till he can't play anymore. Meanwhile guys like Armia and Hoffmann are overpaid, don't bring intangible elements, and are preventing young guys. I just hope we don't turn on Gally over his contract when we aren't even competing.

Honestly... I don't know how much Gallagher's contract will actually impact us. We have like 6M free now... 10M next year... Cap goes up dramatically after that.. then by that point I imagine he's on ltir if we are being realistic.

Or Terry Ryan... Man 90s was a rough time for Habs drafting Newfoundlanders in the 1st round!

Brad Brown is in shambles

They'd save 1.1M each according to capfriendly by burying them.

I think players around the league don't like that and it's a bad rep hit. Plus they may not be great AHL influences and are taking development minutes away from guys. While simply eliminating any trade value. But they totally could.