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Or win.

Hope not! Reinbacher is going to be on a low contract - would make zero sense! Massive overpay?

I like Dobson. But if reports are right that he wants $11m. How much are we going to have to pay Hutson. $12m? We would have close to $30m tied up to 3 dmen long term - Hutson, Dobson and Guhle.

I think we need to extend Hutson now for 8!yeara - won’t be able play info it next year!

It’s a good thing Lou isn’t a GM anymore. He not only has a dress policy, he had the facial hair policy😁

Sounds like the wife of the Sabres owner meddled a lot in hockey operations up me and Friedman also said that I think it was last year where the owner flew over and made a speech to the player on how he believes in them that really came across as weird and wasn’t all that well received. i still go back to when they fired Lafontaine - who had a longer term plan. They did some really dumb signings after that, and basically have been crap since. They seem to the East’s answer to the Vancouver soap opera.

Still won more playoff series than the leafs in last 20 years - and the Sabres haven’t made the playoff since 2011 !🤣

If were to move Matheson and 2nd for Andersson and could sign him in the $6.5M range to be a 2nd pairing RHD I'd do it. But no way would I sign him for the $8M+/8 yrs that he is looking for (and that would probably be from a lower tax state), as well as move our top prospects and first rounders. I'd like to get a RHD, but we need to figure out what it's going to cost to improve our 2nd line first - preferably with a big 2C than a playmaking winger (the other option Hugo - can't remember which suggested).

so has Ristolainen. Doesn't mean he is a legit top pairing dman on a good contending team. We aren't going to be a contending team if Andersson is our top pairing dman and he certainly isn't someone i'd want to be paying $8M+ got 8 years.

I get that he cap is going up. But we will probably have to pay $10m+ to Hutson. If Demidov is what we hope he will be, he will be making the same. If Reinbacher makes it and is a regular top 4 by the end of the year he will make more than Guhle. You still have to prioritize your core. Cap is going up, but we will still have 3 key plauers to resign over the next two summers (assuming we extend Demidov next summer). On top of that the more pressing need is a 2C. Anderson is not a legit first pairing dman. In two years he would be limiting our ability to retain higher priority players. I don’t mind moving prospects, but they have to be for guys that will be part of the core. I’d love to get Dobson, but it sounds like he wants $11m.

I dont want anything to do with that deal. He wants around $8m, let alone give up Florian who could be a key piece of our depth when we are competing. Way too much to give up for a middle pairing D and not address our hole at centre

Didn’t seem like it during the playoffs - on and off the ice! Arriving at a game on the road in an extravagant rental car. Stupid penalties.

That’s a joke projection. No way Hagens is falling that low!

It doesn’t make much sense to me to move prospects like Kapanan, or Mailloux and our pick, to only move up 2 or 3 spots in a draft where there isn’t enough separating players in the 12 to 16 range. We not only may end up drafting a player at 13 or 14 that isn’t as good as the guy we would have taken at 13, or 14, but those picks may not even turn out to be better than Kapanan or Mailloux. It doesn’t seem like it’s worth giving up Mailloux/Kapanan type prospects unless we could get into the 6-8 range. Last year, I would have mov d wither or both as part of a package to draft Buium or Parekh, but I don’t see those types of prospects in the 9-12 range this year. id rather move prospects like them or save prospects like them as part of package to fill the 2C hole.

I think they heard Tavares’s say how much he wants to stay for family reasons and are trying to use Duschane's as a comparable - which doesn’t work since he can give Dallas a discount since he is still getting buyout money from Nashville as well. i can’t see them letting him go, and will probably up their offer by $2-3m before July 30. They would be nuts if they didn’t. They don’t have much trade capital, limited prospects and picks. No way they can go into next year with losing both Marner and Tavares for nothing. Only way it would make any sense is that they were confident that they can sign Marchand, Bennett (or who by the sound of it may actually stay put), and only other high end UFA is Ehlers. what are their options? Trade Knies for Robertson? Or make a move for Suter? Sign Granlund? Neither of those two are replacing Tavares.

Yeah. Sutwr is is not the answer. If we can’t get a centre, it would be great to get Robertson (doubt it - would cost to much), or Ehlers.

Question is can they get thhat type of player. I’d love them to get a big 2C, or failing that Robertson, but would not be willing to give up Reinbacher + 1st and other prospects to do so. Mailloux- sure. But even than I’d want to know that we could resign him. i doubt if anyone other than Granland will make it to free agency - I can’t see the leafs letting Tavares go. Will probably settle for a salary between $6-$7m. for the what Zegras went for, I’d be willing to tale a one year flyer on him.

Loser mentality? How? I'd take him in a hearbeat. He is coming off a poorly contstructed team and grow up cheering for a loser franchise. But loser mentality? Really?? You want Suter over Tavares??? thank god you arne't the GM That sounds the type of dumb move that Bergevin would have made.

Well, just read about the Zegras trade. If that's all it cost, I wish we would have made a pitch for him. Low risk cost. Could turn out to be a huge steal for Philly!

If all Zegras would cost is a 3rd pairing man or even a 2nd or 3rd round pick. I would be all over it. We need scoring. If Marty can get him going as a winger or centre, I'd take a flyer - I think i also read that he's tight with Caufield, so who knows, considering how Marty has made Caufield a more complete player, may also do some magic with Zegras. I think he is in the last year of his deal. Zegras would probably cost more than Laine thought. Newhook for Zegras? If Tavares is still available, I'd still try and get him has well. Lundell would be my first option for a centre, but Tavares with zero cost would not be bad. Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky Dach-Tavares-Demidov Laine-Zegras-Heineman Gallagar-Evans-Anderson Guhle-Hutson Matheoson-Carriere Struble/Xhejac-Reinbacher Buys us time to let Beck and Kapanan to earn their spot with VERY strong play in camp, or marinate longer. Ideally, I'd want to upgrade the RD and if we could move Matheson and Beck and a pick for a RHD, I'd do it. Dobson would look great with Hutson!!

One of the potentially greatest outcome would be him winning a cup in Montreal!! Not only would we get our 25th cup, but imagine the angst and outrage in Toronto of seeing Tavares win in Montreal - they would be furious at Toronto management and ownership!!

They also have another high end centre prospect in Catton. Berniers isn’t going anywhere. So they may move Stephenson or Wright and would probably want to keep a veteran… so maybe there is an opportunity to get Wright.

If we stile out on all fronts and if the acquisition cost is low, it it worth taking a flyer on Zegras (ie prospect lower than Mailloux? Go into camp with one of the. As 2C options, while the other is the other second line winger?

Karlsson to me makes zero sense - even at 50%. Only way is even consider a Karlsson deal would be Karlsson-Malkin for Matheson-Gallagher-Beck+1st and even than o would let want more than 50% of Karlsson’s salary.

I have zero interest in Sillenger or Jenner, just trying to identify teams that have depth at centre and may be willing to move a centre if they are offered a good return to address other gaps. Johnson is still fairly young, had a productive year and is a natural centre. I think it’s a situation of them having too many centres. I want nothing to do with Lindstrom. We have enough injury prone players and we need somebody who is ready to be an NHL player next year, not 2-3 years from now. we have a prospect in Hage who may be able to be thr 2C in 2-3 years. If Granland ends up being the only UFA centre left left, someone will overpay in $ AND term. I’d rather have Kadri and 2C for 2 years and he can be a role player after that. He may still be good enough to be a solid 3C or at least a solid third line winger. He’s also a guy who plays with grit despite his size.