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It is all well and good for fans to be a bit petty and spiteful, but Bergevin has to deal with the 29 other GMs and is a 2 way street as far as offer sheets. So likely dosent pay to go around pissing them off and then next thing you are looking at is a $5-6m offer to Galchenyuk/Gallagher that must be matched.

Yes, a bias for sure, thought White was super back when with the Hitmen as a centre and if given a regular shift I think will do fine and adds just a bit more toughness and grit than yapper. Not that I am a big Max hater, just we dont need anymore bottom six signings.

Really? Max was 41% on PK faceofffs, White was 57% and better overall faceoff guy and if White stays healthy he should be fine 4th line centre. White and Dumont were both fine on faceoffs in limited duty. And I would prefer to see both on roster before Max again. Canucks didn't seem keen on resigning Max? Habs already must have 9 guys for bottom six and Bournival, Leblanc or some other Bulldog will likely get injury call up and I would go with youth over goofball type. LaPierre showed up to play only 1/2 the time and the other half he added nothing.

Malcolm Subban must of loved seeing Rask get signed to long term deal? I guess he will have to prove himself in AHL for couple years anyways and who knows how many years Rask will actually play of that deal, in Boston anyways? At least Fucale wont be too old when Price's deal is winding up. Could Fucale play in AHL in the 14-15 season or will he still be too young?

yes, seems Wings are well run, doing fine and should have a good team again this year and will be nice to see them play the Habs more.

I would think Canucks might want a Moan, Plekanec, Gionta, or Bourque for Edler or Bieksa. Habs would be looking more for top 4 d-man and not another #5-6-7 d-man that Tanev is, got lots of those. But Tanev for DD might be part of a good deal also.

I don't know what trades were done; but only had a 1st rounder in; 00, 05, 07, 08, 10 & 13. And made 3 finals in this period, so whatever trades they have done couldn't have been too bad, don't think they even used any buy-outs and their prospect pool is pretty good?

Sure, it seems some thought Poirier was picked higher than should of and I thought Poirier would of been good @25, but more as a gritty 2 way forward, not top 6. Which is the "same type" as I think Gregoire is? But I haven't seen either play and thought Timmins maybe got another quality late rounder like a Hudon seems to be.

I see Gregoire had 2 goals in pre-season game. Was he quite underrated due to injuries and might be quite similar player as Emile Poirier?

Since 2000 Wings have only had 6 1st round picks and none in 8 of those years and of the 6, 5 are with playing Wings or AHL farmteam, with 1 bust being a goalie. And 2nd round picks are even more impressive, since 2000 every 2nd rounder is either promising prospect or NHL, with only 1 bust and 1 Russian who stayed in Russia. Frk, Howard, Ouellet, Hudler, Tatar, Abdelkader, etc etc. So I can see only 2 busts (to date) in first 2 rounds in 14 years? Hard to criticize that isn't it? So, not a chance it is "unfair reputation", they are, hands down, one of best on draft day. And Timmins and crew also are one of tops in recent year, I agree for sure.

Landskog I see as close to a PPG player once team improves and has a bit of depth up front, Duchene is a solid player as is O'Reilly and who wouldn't want to lock up MacKinnon. Sure one of this kids may bust, but odds are Sakic didn't make a big mistake, maybe waste a few extra $$ that didn't have to, but doubt he will end up wanting to buy Landeskog out? I see the UFA long term deals as more risky and prone to flopping (DiPietro aside), no fact based, just seems like that to me.

why not Mantha, seems like a big promising prospect? Wings took him and they tend to be fairly good in their picks.

sure, I more or less agreed anyways, was more just devils ad., and majority of long term contracts must be considered failures for teams. But, I still think you are underselling Landeskog and maybe contract is 1 or 2 years too long. But he also is golden boy for Colorado PR, unlike Duschene or Statsny, so likely off-ice reasons played a part to longer deal, in a positive way?

Maybe off-ice stuff was media overblown? But, I am not quite sure about "bridged contracts", but Colorado basically gave out what Subban was asking for last year (not that long likely but similar)? What if Landeskog put up 100pts with Mackinnon and then Colorado tried to sign? Or Subban puts up 30 goals and 80points and wins 2nd Norris this year? Bergevin wont look quite so smart? Landeskog being captain I guess may be quite similar to Detroit in fall of 86, got a super young player and weak rebuilding team, what they got to lose? As long as injuries don't derail him, he should be a super player.

Don't think Morin was much of a target for trading up, I would guess a forward, like Horvat or Domi around 10 and maybe Mantha or Rychel around 20? but I also never thought McCarron would be pick #25.

I just thought was interesting to actually hear offers for the different 1st round picks, even if none were acceptable to both sides.

I might be looking to trade Markov before Diaz, but I just don't even see the need for any trades by Habs at present and doubt any will be made anytime soon

Interesting videos of Flyers and Columbus. Flyers were strictly concerned with d-men and had Morin @8th which seems way too high, but it is the Flyers. From Columbus's video, Columbus had several offers for 14th pick, Buff offered 16th and 2nd rounder, San Jose offered 18th or 20th, a 2nd and 3rd rounder and i think Leafs offered 21st and a 2nd (all likely looking to get Domi @14th is what they guessed). They got a call from Bergevin for their 19th pick, but didnt want to trade down as they wanted Rychel. They offered their 27th pick to Oilers and Sabres for two 2nd rounders. With the thought that Dano would still be available in 2nd round.

I know this is still way off thread topic, but might as well beat dead horse, Jonus Brodin and Justin Shultz did that just last year, cept without the AHL part.

Tinordi showed he was fine as a #6 or 7 d-man playing 11-12minutes/game against 3rd/4th lines. Is that NHL ready, on the right track; but? He did not dominate AHL, was he even an AHL all-star, don't think so? rookie of year, no. But do the Habs need a Tinordi-type d-man, for sure; but is that a reason to rush him? could be good enough reason, I don't know?

i agree with Mr Cucumber. And it likely is hard to find a player who, to his detriment, spent too much time in AHL? But things can be so variable, strength/needs of NHL roster, attitude of prospect as well as management's master plan, etc chances are Tinordi will fill in for Yemelin in October and may even push the Cube to the pressbox after that; but if he was kept in AHL till after the new year i dont think would hurt his develoment one bit and would be a big plus for Nygren, Dietz, Ellis, Beaulieu, Pateryn to be able to partner up with him..

Waste a year? playing 25minutes in AHL and being a team leader vs 12-13minutes against bottom six opponents in NHL, which is better? I don't know, but basically playing twice as much would seem an OK way to develop and also the Bulldog rookies and youth would benefit from his leadership. I would guess Drewiske will be in AHL full time mentoring the young players, unless are multiple injuries at d.

I wouldnt say Tinordi is a lock. I still think 1 more year with big minutes and a bit weaker opposition in Hamilton might be better for him? Pateryn has plenty of size and is more experianced, Nygren has more experiance vs men.

I didn't know Thrower's age was an issue for contract Was good to hear Bennett hit 195lb target, he started out on fire last year, till Michigan went in the tank. He is a strong skater and rusher with puck, but will his offense be good enough to offset defensive weakness (like Beaulieu who was even pushed around by small NHLers) I think 13-15 goals would be a very promising year or target for him as a senior and the captain.

Diaz has started career on exact same pace as Markov, so may be a bit early to ship him out and Markov might be better one to go and free up more cap space? Tinordi may be better served to play big minutes in Hamilton and let Pateryn/Nygren play 6th/7th d-man?