alfredoh2009

It was wishful thinking that DLR would be waived, and Hemski would be traded for Paajsrvi after he clears to have both swedes in Laval for the remaining of the season. The org like DLR, but he won't develop by playing limited minutes at the NHL level: he needs minutes --- i like him too. I hoped at one point he would become the next Pleks

I think DLR needs to play more minutes in Laval to further develop

He has chocked at the NHL level. with 3 players about to come back from IR, someone has to be waived. Froese has done as well as DLR, and is a righty with a profile more suitable for a 4th line

DeLarose and Paajarvi would look good in Laval Two underachieving sweedish "reclamation" projects

I guess we will not agree. I am not saying he is without fault. Your question was why thought he had performed as well as any other GM. I think he has performed as well as any. Anyone coming in would want to do their own evaluation, and then "tweak" the tam to their liking, before putting in a plan. MB has done more good moves than bad, his errors have been: Radulov and Sylvain Lefebvre. I think Markov had to go, the same way I think Pelks has to go this year; but for the rest, I do not think there are any better GMs available to take MB's place. For that reason, I would stay with MB.

In my view, Marc inherited an empty prospects pipeline due to Gainey's/Gauthier's dealing of draft picks between 2008-2011 when they didn't have 2nd round picks: https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/MTL/draft.html That crop of players (2008-2011) have not yielded any NHLers, they would be graduating now with the club or be part of the core of the team. Only Gallagher made it, and he is a mid-6 RW, and having a career year. From the 2012 crop, Galchenyuk, Collberg (became vanek) and Hudon are looking fine. Bozon's health is not on the Habs, and is unfortunate. The drafts since 20113 have not been too high up in the standings because the habs have done well during the season, MB did manage to patch together competitive teams except for 2015-2016 when Price was hurt. In 2016 the y drafter Sergachev, Mete, Bitten, etc which look promising. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Montreal_Canadiens_seasons the summer of 2017 was disappointing due to the mess with Radulov and Markov and the underwhelming performance of Alzner and Schelemko. With Weber's injury, Price's unerperformance at the begining of the season and Ben's and Petry's problems under CJ's system, the defence has played very badly. But overall, I believe that Marc bergevin has performed well, as well as any GM during his tenure. I do not want him fired. Not just yet.

Ok, I'll post something on the Bergevin thread.

I do not think we ever recovered: we have not won a cup in all those years after. I do not remember the André Savard years (was he GM when Saku got hurt against the Hurricanes?), but then we ran Gainey out for being a terrible GM. Gauthier was a disaster. Now MB. What I am saying is that I want to keep a GM for a couple of generations of players, and I believe Bergevin is a good as any. Including making mistakes

I get it, he had his chance. It sucks to be a fan of a team that will go into a rebuild and not contend for another 5 years. That's a long time. Whoever comes in needs to be a wizard or have superpowers to turn it around in less than 5 years. Firing MB and hiring anyone else is just setting us up to be disappointed again in 5 years from now.

It is a valid point of view. For me, it is too difficult to abdicate and accept that scenario. I want to believe that a "battle hardened" MB, if he survives this year, will do the right thing. I am a big believer on giving people a chance to redeem themselves after failure. I think MB is honest and that he truly wants to win a cup. The Habs are two players away: a tavares-like center and a Subban-like left-D (I know, I know)

The same can be said for Gallagher, Weber, Drouin, Galchenyuk . The Habs best players as a whole are "diminished" by the general lack of drive and competiveness from this team. I do not think it is realistic to think that blowing up the team and gambling that other teams will hand over a better ensemble of players in return is the way to go.

I share that view too. BCHabnut

100% agreed!

The Well, it hinges on trusting Bergevin and Timmins. If the Preds GM got such high praise fir last year's run after many disappointing years. And if the Bruins show so much promise now after performing so poorly before CJ was fired... I think we can let MB and TT show how they can get us out of the situation they put us in . That is unpopular. I think the media is having a field day pummelling the Habs management right now: but the players have not stepped up!

Good topic Commandant. My preferences are not popular, but here they are: i would definitely move Pleks but try to create some bidding from a couple of teams I am fed up with Petry more than Alzner, so I would shop him around I really believe that one of (Gallagher, A.Shaw, Lehkonen, Hudon, Carr, Byron) should be moved. Maybe two. For crying out loud: this organization has to evaluate and pick from these underweight & fightsty wingers. Specially with Sherbak ready to graduate next year I would not move Pacioretty, but I would remove the C after the season. Thank gives a handful of players that can be shipped out for picks and maybe packaged for an upgrade on Morrow as a depth defence. === I think the best path forward is to keep the core and to build through the draft by getting as many high picks as possible. The key signings to help next year should come at the free agency deadline i do not think the Habs will get much at the trade deadline === oh, of course you would need to get rid of Sly and hire a coach that can develop prospects

He showed up, first shift drove the net to screen on Jerabek's goal. Had a few good checks but looked lost on the offensive zone

How much worse can it be?! (waiving white flag)

Well, the DLR experience failed big time. Hope Danault gets well soon !!!

What a freaking soft pass p by Petry!!!!

"Frustrating to watch, this game is. But made it better, Beaulieu, Emelin and Deharnais would not have" ~ Yoda

"You should not tank, against you the odds are. Yrssss." ~As Yoda would say

I posted earlier that it may be to check DLR's potential, like they tried Danault another idea is that they are looking at options on right wing: if 27 or 92 play RW, that would make at lest one (if Not 2) RWs expendable

That's a fair point, but hope is the only thing I have to make sense of this forgettable season.

Then he'll fit right in in one of the Habs 4th lines: to quote Lafleur

May be is evaluation time before the deadline: seing how much upside delarose has prior to the trade deadline Hudon got a look at centre yesterday.