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Announcers are saying thats gonna be a suspension... but it feels like Larsson lunged forward after the puck putting his head into that spot.

It hit about 3 things before going in...

Darche has seen like 2 shifts on the PP in the last 6 weeks... Its clearly overstated.

Just like we heard about the Kaberle trade in advance Just like we heard about Erik Cole Just like we heard about Scott Gomez in advance Just like we heard which team was after Halak. The Habs under Gainey first and now Gauthier are like fort knox... shit doesn't leak from them. The only reason the Vinny trade leaked was because the lightning had 2 owners who were fighting over whether or not to trade him... one of them wanted him traded, the other wanted to build around him. The guy who wanted to build around him, leaked the proposed deal to try and get the Tampa fans to go crazy and kill the deal. The rest of our trades.... we hear nothing in advance. For all the rumors in this thread... find me the Kaberle rumor before it happened???

We keep assuming that Gauthier hasn't tried.... why? How do you know he hasn't made a trade offer that Shero hasn't rejected? The whole discussion is built on a straw man.

I think they sent a guy who can appease certain members (and I don't want to name more names, as these guys don't deserve the attention) of the French Press and do the press conferences in French for them (or help Cunneyworth with the French questions). At the same time they put a guy there who certain members the French Media can't credibly claim that Cunneyworth should be fired and replaced with his assistant after every loss; even though they still might like to try. If they put a legit head coach candidate there, it would happen.

Great other GMs have made mistakes. Why do you think Shero is dumb enough to make a mistake and take your offer? It doesn't make any sense to say... hey some GMs got ripped off before, so why can't we rip off the Penguins today? And again, before the league got re-aligned why would they trade one of the best players in the world to another team in their conference. It still doesn't make sense. Heatley was traded for Milan Michalek, the guy who was leading the league in goals until he got concussed earlier this week. Plus a draft pick. Cheechoo was nothing more than a throw in to make the salary cap situation work. On top of that, Lindros, Jagr, Heatley, Roy, all demanded to be traded, forcing their GM into a significant position of weakness. And as you said, Gretzky was never anything more than an Owner whose other businesses were driving him bankrupt so he made a desperate move that was bad for his hockey team in order to get 15 million in cash. Heck Sather didn't even have any input into the deal, it was all Pocklington.

What is this based on? If you or I on a message board can figure out that these guys get more as UFAs than they do signing long term extensions early, don't you think the players and their agents can figure out the same? We have no idea what they were asking for. Any guesses are baseless speculation and/or wishful thinking.

Okay, so that said... how much money is Gorges worth, and how much is too much? There has to be a line of what he is worth and what is too much.

Whats a columbus Seriously though, rookie was the only thing that scares me... now that dlbalr and yourself have pointed out that he has about 140 games under his belt as an NHL coach. I'm all in with this guy as our next coach (assuming the French Rule remains in place). I like him better than all the other candidates mentionned.

Depends what you mean by opposite of martin. Martin is two things as a coach.... a defensive coach and a hard ass disciplinarian. Carlyle might be more offensive, but he is also a hard ass too. If you really want to change things, it might be time for more of a players coach, a better communicator. We've had some hardasses who weren't good communicators for a while now in Julien, Carbo, and Martin. I wouldn't mind a change from that philosophy along with the change from a D first mentality, if we are trying to get a total change up from Martin. More of a gainey type behind the bench (not gainey obviously) but just that different communication style. Think the guy who took Kovalev for a walk, who massaged egos and got that guy going.

If they are forced to trade one of them down the road... the best thing about realignment is that we are no longer competing with the Penguins for a playoff spot... so we might have a chance. However that news is also relatively recent, and I think that before it was made official, there was no chance they'd trade Staal or Malkin to another eastern conference team.

Lucic gets 5 minutes and a game misconduct for a dirty hit from behind in a 5-0 game against the flyers. If he's not suspended, this league is a joke.

The cost for Turris was David Rundblad + a 2nd rounder. Thats equivalent to trading One of Tinordi/Beaulieu and a 2nd rounder I wouldn't touch that deal with a 20 foot poll. Bryan Murray paid a huge price for a kid with 46 points in 137 NHL games. As for Malkin, he also can play wing... I didn't see him ever really being on the market for the Penguins. I don't think they are interested in trading quality for quantity.

Don Maloney commits highway robbery at first glance.

Agreed that if Moen is ready there is no spot for him. However I do think one of Leblanc/Palushaj could play the left side. I think its much easier to move as a winger than as a defenceman.

I accept the apology.... I'm all good debating opinions, and like i said, if it wasn't your intention i apologize. Sometimes hard to read these things as the board has no inflection, no subtlety of language, just words. As for Cunneyworth, the sad part is that its 95% certain he will be fired one day... its just a matter of when. On that day, some members of the media will say "Cunneyworth was always the wrong choice, this market needs a francophone coach." Its not right, I don't agree with it, but I agree with the person who said it will become an issue one day.

Tremblay is clearly a better x's and o's hockey guy today than he was when he coached the habs. However the issue was his personality and how it clashed with our star players.... has that changed? I don't get the impression that it has. Has his short fuse been lengthened? I don't know that he would be a good choice for this environment.

Scratch Turris off the list. Ottawa bound. We're just waiting to find out for who

Maybe i've misread your other posts and if I have I apologize. But it has seemed like you've been on me for at least a couple weeks now. or did i misinterpret the little jabs of "You seem to be banging away on several of them." "So you do get it ? Wasn't sure, you didn't seem to."

Agreed, I'm no fan of Darche, but we're kinda stuck with him. Wonder if we see any other callups from Hamilton. I wouldn't be surprised if Cunneyworth tries Palushaj again, in a bigger role than Martin was ever willing to give him.

Fair enough, i just thought maybe you had seen it from a Dreger, or Lebrun, or someone who I hadn't seen.

Thanks all the better then. I really like the job he's done with St. John. And I'll debate opinions all day.... And there is a difference between attacking an opinion and attacking a person. You are very close to crossing that line. You've been hinting at having a problem with me for a while. If you don't like my opinions, I'm not forcing you to read them.

The point is to share and exchange opinions. Hey, if you don't like mine, you don't have to read it.... I'll even make it easy for you.... http://forums.habswo...ea=ignoredusers

I don't disagree with that. Doesn't change the fact that we fire coaches before or during their third season as if on queue. I bet no matter who we hire, vet or rookie we'll be having this same thread in less than 3 years.