MAK Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 wich one of the two will we in Mtl on opening night I think hainsey as an edge...but everything could change in the next few games. if they decide to keep streit, they would have to put hainsey in waivers..:: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaos Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 All things being equall, I and Montreal will keep Hainsey over Streit. They have more invested in him, and he has the bigger upside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett38 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Maybe Hainsey. Not sure yet. Lets wait till the end of camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I've been less than impressed by Hainsey so far in camp. He has all the skills but his brains just can't seem to follow. When he's not making judgment mistakes, he's slacking off. He also doesn't appears to have enough vision & hockey smarts to be a good d-man at the NHL level. I'd say right now, from what I've seen in pre-season, Streit is already more reliable than Hainsey. And Streit's just getting used to the NHL game, so that can only improve. The only thing I'm worried about Streit is that he gets fatigued as the season goes on. Heck, based on games so far even J-P Côté is doing better than Hainsey: POS NO. PLAYER GP G A PTS +/- PIM PP SH GW OTG S PCTG D 64 *Cote, Jean-Philippe 2 0 1 1 1 4 0 0 0 0 4 0.0 D 32 Streit, Mark 3 0 1 1 2- 4 0 0 0 0 3 0.0 D 65 Hainsey, Ron 3 0 0 0 2- 2 0 0 0 0 4 0.0 [Edited on 26-9-2005 by ap79] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phailak Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Neither one has really impressed me so far, but if I had to choose, I'd keep Hainsey. Maybe he'll have some flashes and we can trade him or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 In my opinion neither player is anything to write home about. Think Hainsey probably has the edge as he'd have to clear waivers (but then again Streit might prefer to return to being a star in Switzerland than go to Hamilton). In either case, I think we are talking about very mediocre NHL level players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycing Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Bouillon! But I'd still keep Streit if i had to pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie_Morenz Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Good job on the stats AP79. I pick Hainsey because of the possible upside. He is 6'3" had 2 points in 11 games with Montreal and a +3 in +/- in 2003-2004. He is young, 211lbs and will probably fill out some more. I think Striet is a good defenceman but we do have to get a little tougher back of the blue line or our guys are going to get pushed around. I think Hainsey is tougher but that's my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett38 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I think a lot of you guys are making sense. Both are not stepping it up, but I think Hainsey may have the upside. First Round pick, size, weight etc. Now he has to prove himself. Maybe do a good enough job so we can trade him...haaa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortcat1 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I'd go with Hainsey also. It may be that he'll be paired off with Komisarek. Last year, in Hamilton, when Komisarek came to the Bulldogs, Hainsey's game improved dramatically. Maybe Julien will respect that pairing but I doubt it. The problem with it is that if Hainsey only plays well with Komisarek, what happens if Komisared is gets hurt or sick. Do we see Hainsey slide down into mediocrity? Geezzzzz what a situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider-Man NL Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I would take Hainsey over Streit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckham Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I think they will keep both, for awhile at least. Hainsey is a valuable commodity. Once he settles in, he will be an NHL regular for the next dozen years at least. Streit is a valuable commodity because he has a lot of experience and could handle being the 8th dman in a similar fashion that Cristobal Huet is a good fit as a backup goaltender. Both Euros are smart, experienced, cost little to employ, and don't have high expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~moeman Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Pains me to say it but give Hainsey a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortcat1 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Originally posted by ~moemanPains me to say it but give Hainsey a chance. Doctor Fozzy says that if it hurts to say it then the best medicine is 'don't say it'. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~moeman Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Thnx Doc Fozz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 I think they'll end up using Streit. He's only got the one-way contract, so they'll probably try him out for a bit, and if he can't cut it NA. style, bring Hainsey back up. I think Hainsey has more potential, but he just can't seem to get his head into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~moeman Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Streit is the one that needs AHL seasoning. Hainsey is staying as the #7 Dman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 I agree with you ~moeman, but I'm pretty sure Streit *can't* go to the AHL... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diebels Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Originally posted by lazy26I think they'll end up using Streit. He's only got the one-way contract, so they'll probably try him out for a bit, and if he can't cut it NA. style, bring Hainsey back up. I think Hainsey has more potential, but he just can't seem to get his head into it. It's not true, Streit has a two-way contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Originally posted by diebelsIt's not true, Streit has a two-way contract. If so throw him to the Dogs to adjust to less ice and more hitting, call him up in awhile if Hainsey isn't performing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giddy for Bobby G. Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 The fact that they're playing together isn't bringing out the best from either competing for this roster spot, I think the first thing they need to do is split these two up. All things considered though, I think Hainsey needs a change of environment, whereas Streit could definitely use the AHL icetime more to his advantage, and give him some much needed confidence outside the Swiis league. My first thought is that this scenario sets Hainsey up to stumble while Streit steals his spot mid/late season, but man it has to be now or never for Hainsey the same way it is for Hossa. It can't send the right message to guys like Hossa, Plekanec or even Komisarek that mediocre and listless play will get get you an NHL job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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