PurpleHills Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 What's up with Tampa Bay? They keep losing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Beacuse they cant finish and they take bad penalty's. Not to mention they have lost their 6 games due to the fact that 4 of those games they only scored 2 times that wont work in the new NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33_ Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 John Grahame is no Bulin Wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonus Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Brian Eklund is no John Grahame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komisarek the Cruncher Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Originally posted by Fanpuck33John Grahame is no Bulin Wall. Give me a break with the "Bullin Wall"...the most overrated goalie in the NHL. The guy got on fire towards the late season and in the playoffs 2 years ago and now all of a sudden, he's a awesome goalie? His career starts are average, not more then that. I've read this many times this year in articles by NHL analysts, so I'm not the only one who sees clearly when it comes to Khabibulin. Tampa Bay is 13th overall and 6th in the Esatern conference with a 3.00 GAA, so its not like Grahame is that bad, its because they can't score. Everyone one knows that Tampa Bay has a strong offensive team and an average defensive team. They're the type of team that wins 5-3 or 6-4, not 2-1. They are 19th overall and 12th in the Eastern conference with a 2.89 goals scored per game. Defeinetly not Tampa Bay standard. Hope that this show you guys why they're not winning and stop saying that its because Khabibulin is gone, because its not...what as Khabibulin done with Chicago? He has the worst GAA (3.71) and save % (0.861) in the league amongst starting goalies. I'm really fedup of seeing people think that Khabibulin is a great goalie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonus Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 well... when bulin was good, the Bolts won. Are there any teams that are winning 2-1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathieug Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Tampa needs a decent #1. Grahame isn't that guy, for now. Maybe in a couple of years. Not now. He's not a bad goalie, don't be offended, he's just not good enough. He's running around his crease like a headless chicken. Looks like the game is too fast for him. Makes too much saves out of position. Tampa needs a #1 goalie and- right now- he isn't on Tampas depth chart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komisarek the Cruncher Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Originally posted by simonuswell... when bulin was good, the Bolts won. Are there any teams that are winning 2-1? In case you didn't notice, there are less big scoring games lately and more 2-1, 3-2 and shutouts then in the first month of the season. Just take a look at last night results.... Moreover, the Bolts were also scoring 4 to 6 goals a game was bulin was goaling. How hard is it to understand? I'm not saying that Grahame is a great goalie or that is better than Khabibulin. In fact, I think that Khabibulin is slightly better but there is not a big difference between the 2. Give Grahame the same goal support that bulin was getting and nobody would even be talking about him. The Bolts are losing because they are not scoring, which puts even more pressure on Grahame. No, Grahame is not a great #1 goalie, and no, the Bolts will probably not win a cup with him in net, but there biggest problem right now is a lack of scoring. 19th overall and 12th in the conference for goals scored...enough said. Its as simple as 2+2=4...you score 2, you allow 3 = you lose A 3.00 GAA in the new league is not a disaster... Its funny how people forgot that mid-season 2 years ago, bulin was benched because he was horrible and Tampa was looking into trading him and replacing him because they were awesome but felt that they woudln't win the cup with him in net. People only remember what they want to remember and what they are brainwashed to remember...bulin was great in the playoffs and now they see him as always being such a great goalie all of his career when is career stats are average. [Edited on 2005/11/12 by Komisarek the Cruncher] [Edited on 2005/11/12 by Komisarek the Cruncher] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_Habs_Fan Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Originally posted by Fanpuck33John Grahame is no Bulin Wall. Khabibulin is no Bulin Wall either anymore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Originally posted by simonuswell... when bulin was good, the Bolts won. Are there any teams that are winning 2-1? Nope. Can't win just scoring two goals any more. Got to score three now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_faerie87 Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Originally posted by JeanLucPilon Originally posted by simonuswell... when bulin was good, the Bolts won. Are there any teams that are winning 2-1? Nope. Can't win just scoring two goals any more. Got to score three now. Unless you're playing Florida! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Originally posted by Fanpuck33John Grahame is no Bulin Wall. Bulin is no Bulin wall. But yeah, he was a good goalie with Tampa and was a big reason to their Cup win. His stats might not have been great but Tampa had a bad defence. If your defence is bad and you win a cup (without Sens-ish offence) it must be because of your goalie. Also, St Louis is slumping and Stillman is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy9 Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 Vinnie Prospal with a hat-trick against the Flyers tonite! Thats the Tampa's answer to the fans. Bolts are back. Congrats, Václave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycing Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 Originally posted by tommy9Vinnie Prospal with a hat-trick against the Flyers tonite! Thats the Tampa's answer to the fans. Bolts are back. Congrats, Václave Must suck that the 3rd one came in an empty net... but hey... great stuff for anyone who has him in their hockey pool... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 Like what happened to Mark Bell the other day. He scored two and had was on a breakaway with an empty net and hit the post (like Bégin). That's gotta hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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