huzer Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 More juggling! Looks like these will be the lines: Hossa-Ribs-Ryder (wasn't that an AHL line at some point last year?) Zednik-Perreault-Audette Bulis-Junuea-Dackell Langdon-Kilger-Sundstrom Begin reinjured his shoulder against the Oilers, so it looks like he's back on the shelf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch_nl Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Zednik needs a new enviroment so it might be a good call. Hossa on the first line? What? Why? I'd rather try Bulis, Audette or Sundström. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted November 6, 2003 Author Share Posted November 6, 2003 I'm just hoping that it helps putting a few players back at their natural position. Ryder has always played his off wing (RW), Kilger a C, I would like to see them try a few games with Hossa back at C. The Habs have made every effort, it seems, to take every center they have and turn them into LWs...Higgins, Hossa, Bulis, Kilger, Chouinard,. Playing Robidas on his off side defensively killed him in Montreal. I know C is a more demanding position to play, but it would seem the NHL adjustment itself would be difficult enough without having to learn the responsibilities of a new position. Then again, if the Habs didn't do the above, we;d have no LWs, either. Hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsaku Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I'm just hoping that it helps putting a few players back at their natural position. Ryder has always played his off wing (RW), Having followed Ryder pretty closely, I can assure you RW is his natural position and he's also a right handed shot(even though that idiot Pat Hickey says otherwise). He's been playing LW with those bums Audette and Perreault and pretty much carried that sorry line on his off wing. Can't wait to see him on Koivu's wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted November 6, 2003 Author Share Posted November 6, 2003 Originally posted by HabsakuI'm just hoping that it helps putting a few players back at their natural position. Ryder has always played his off wing (RW), Having followed Ryder pretty closely, I can assure you RW is his natural position and he's also a right handed shot(even though that idiot Pat Hickey says otherwise). He's been playing LW with those bums Audette and Perreault and pretty much carried that sorry line on his off wing. Can't wait to see him on Koivu's wing. Thanks for clearing that up for me. I thought my mind was playing tricks on me that I had seen Ryder shoot rightie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs77 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 The forwards lines are perfect. The vets are the problem, put them all together... which forces them to start playing or they'll be exposed. Let the kids play together, without the black cloud of an underachieving vet to bring them down. Either the vets wake up and the team can return to .500 form... or they keep sucking and play themselves right out of town. It's a win-win situation. On defense... Breezer is getting a promotion, will get more minutes now that he's with Markov. And we know what happens when Breezer gets more minutes. But on the other hand it can't be worse than Rivet, so why the hell not. Rivet is demoted, will play less minutes with Bouillon... which is fine by me. The problem is if they switch up Bouillon for Hainsey next game... the poor kid Ron might never recover from playing that loser Craig. Ward is out, Begin too most likely, Juneau questionable. So this leaves us with: Hossa-Ribeiro-Ryder Zednik-Perreault-Audette Bulis-Sundstrom-Dackell Langdon-Kilger-?? callup? I would play Bouillon on the 4th line and Hainsey on D in that case instead of calling a kid up. The last thing I'd want to do is subject another kid to the circus in Montreal right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted November 6, 2003 Author Share Posted November 6, 2003 if Juneas is out, I couldn't see Sundstrom centering a line when the Habs have 2 natural centers on the 3rd/4th lines (Bulis and Kilger). I would almost imagine Kilger centering Bulis and Dackell, since that seemed to be the Habs initiial plan before Chad was injured. As far as filling in the 4th line, if it's just for a game or two, and the Habs don't want to bring up a kid, recall Dwyer for the 4th line. I guess if nothing else (just speaking positionally, of course) the Habs could have: Sundstrom-Bulis-Dackell Langdon-Kilger-Dwyer as the bottom 2 lines, and those don't exactly install confidence, though. But I don't know what else they could do after losing (potentially) Juneau and Begin (that seems more definite). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonavistaman11 Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 Good to see Ryder on the top line, he needs to get going and when he does he should put up some good numbers. I was talking to his father the other day and he said Michael has lost a lot of confidence over the past few games, since scoring his first goal he's had a ton of bad luck, hitting posts, being robbed, and not getting any bounces. This is also affecting the overall game, he hasnt been the same player that he was in his fisrt 4 or 5 games. Also gettin his vehicle ripped off last week must have some affect on him, hard luck for the kid. Hopefully things can turn around for him and the rest of team. WHERE THE HECK IS ZEDNIK???? :ghg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAussiePosse Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 we need koivu back. then zednik is back on track. then the lines are more scrambled and we can trade the guys who are in the way bulis-koivu-zednik, and we can breathe a sigh of relief. ribeiro and hosse will have to work something out. i'd actually like to trade juneau and perreault (who wouldn't), and try ribeiro as 2nd line centre, and hossa 3rd line. He's defensively competent, and could pot good points for us too. sure, juneau has sadly been one of our better players, but hell, i'm not afraid to welcome ovechkin before the 1/4 way point of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs77 Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 Originally posted by huzerif Juneas is out, I couldn't see Sundstrom centering a line when the Habs have 2 natural centers on the 3rd/4th lines (Bulis and Kilger). I would almost imagine Kilger centering Bulis and Dackell, since that seemed to be the Habs initiial plan before Chad was injured. I agree with that. It's just that Julien mentionned earlier this year that Ward & Sundstrom could both play center... which was news to me. And he did already use Ward at center once. He didn't even mention Bulis as a possibility at center... he much prefers the wing. I'm thinking the 4th line is an energy line, tough line. Kilger fits much better in that mold than Sundstrom. But yes my initial thought was to use Kilger to center the 3rd line... but that would leave us with a 4th line that made no sense. Hell I'd rather have Hossa, a natural center who actually PREFERS playing center, center the 3rd line... and move up Bulis: Bulis-Ribeiro-Ryder Zednik-Perreault-Audette Sundstrom-Hossa-Dackell Langdon-Kilger-callup But NO, continue insisting on playing Hossa where he's most uncomfortable... let's not risk actually getting the kid to break out. *sigh* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsaku Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 Habs77, I also think we should try Hossa at center at least for a few games, but its just that with his puck carrying skills, it might be a disaster. Well, we never know and I'd like to personnaly hear what Marcel has to say about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habitual_hab Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 Originally posted by Habs77Hell I'd rather have Hossa, a natural center who actually PREFERS playing center, center the 3rd line... and move up Bulis: Bulis-Ribeiro-Ryder Zednik-Perreault-Audette Sundstrom-Hossa-Dackell Langdon-Kilger-callup But NO, continue insisting on playing Hossa where he's most uncomfortable... let's not risk actually getting the kid to break out. *sigh* My sentiments exactly. Older brother Marion said as much during the off-season: Marcel prefers center and that he (Marion) would love to play with his little bro at C and him on the wing someday. Hmmm, Marcel for Jason straight up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasthabsfan Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 So Koivu isnt playing tonight... TSN seems to think he is which is why Yanic is sitting http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=59713 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habitual_hab Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 I thought that it was discovered that Koivu has a torn ligament rather than just a sprain. :?- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs77 Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 A slight tear... which explained why he missed 6 weeks instead of 4. Remember how the last time he was supposed to come back he was slotted for the 4th line... to "ease him back" because he hadns't played in weeks? Now 1st line right off the bat, kinda shows you how desperate we have become in these hard times. And I'm not surprised one bit about Perreault sitting, I told you that play on the 3rd Oilers goal was so ugly he should be traded for that play alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonavistaman11 Posted November 8, 2003 Share Posted November 8, 2003 The team played well against the Sabres. We just need some goals. :ghg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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