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You think the Habs needs to bend over backwards for a 130th-150th ranked prospect, just becasue he is french? I would bet that there are many higher ranked, english/european prospects that are in exact same boat and havent heard one word from many NHL clubs.

I see the same play as i did in world juniors and in several other games throughout the year. But if i remember correctly, Subban played the exact same way in junior and would go end to end and turnover puck, a la Gomez, once in offensive zone. But couple years later and Subban has bought in to team play and is the #1 d-man; while his dumb penalties/turnovers still happen, they are at a much lower rate. Maybe Randy Ladouceur can be named Hamilton head coach and straighten Beaulieu out this season, as he did with subban?

Subban is the MVP of skaters, but Price is only one i cant see trading. What if Columbus offers up Nash for Subban as a main deal (with all the normal extra picks/players/prospects tossed in), would you not consider it? As valuable as Subban is, Nash would instantly upgrade team's weakest aspect, offense. Dont think you hear Plekanec complaining; 2 birds with 1 stone; a All-Star power forward on LW and not have to fight Subban in practice anymore. But,have no fear, i highly doubt Bergevin has trading Subban at top of to do list.

What is name of kid?

If Bergevin wants to put his stamp on team, anything is possible, but i would make it cost an All-Star top 6 forward plus stuff at least before ever offering Subban.

Ryan Murray will be chosen at #3 and he is ready for NHL, but too young for AHL, so as soon as he is drafted, Bergevin will likely have to make room on roster at #6 d-spot for the kid. Which may only ential Weber and Diaz being dealt and maybe Beaulieu tossed in as well, in a Plekanec package deal for a top centre?

Sure, i know splitting hairs a bit, but got to question list just to be a bit arguementative and it is super you guys are breaking down prospects, profiles are well done.

Good profile Why so low with this guy (and Sutter?), wouldnt he be a bit better choice than ones such as; Pearson, Zharkov, Nieves? Basically point/game, average size, your profile and physically active point to a good all-round player? Or are you thinking he is like Luke Sutter and has little offensive upside, even though both had 100+ PIMs and bout 30 goal seasons? You might compare them to Ryan White?

Alain is not a paid scout is he, but he is entitled to his own (seemingly) uneducated opinion? Which french player did he say was a caparable to MacMilan and available at 113th 4th round 2010 whom Timmins missed? Just some fictious imaginary guy eh? Only 3 QMJHL players were selected in 4th round 2010 and Habs drafted 1 of those (Morgan Ellis), i know he isnt from Quebec so dosent count in RDS way of thinking, but got to admit he was another fine 4th round pick? MacMilan is now average sized forward, who just finished freshman year in NCAA and was 2nd line player who is a good skater, played on PK and PP and was much better towards end of year, so Timmins may have found another draft steal. He will play at least 2 more years in NCAA and possibly even 3? MacMilan, like Tinordi is not heavily built, and about same bodytype as Pronger, who is 6'6" and listed as 220lb or so

Tinrodi says he is now 220, but he still looks very slim. I doubt he will ever be that 240+ unless he works out with Rodger Clemens.

45th eh, i wouldnt worry too much about concussion and with his drop, like u say could be a nice steal in 2nd round. Semantics is all it is.

Havlat eh? His M O seems just to be too Russianish ?

Another good profile sir. Pokka seemed very mature and i initially thought he was older and already drafted when saw him play at world juniors, just so many solid looking d-men in draft.

You are making a big assumption about pick being a forward (chances are you are correct but?), especially with many top ranked players being d-men. As Timmins says, he is looking for "Best Asset" at #3.

I still see a clone of Subban in Beaulieu, with all the pros as well as cons when he played with Bulls. He has a long way to go to improve his defense, has taken Subban a couple years and it will for Beaulieu as well, but the kid can really skate, has nice shot and does not lack confidence that is for sure. 1 full year in AHL at least should do wonders for him. Ellis is almost opposite of Beaulieu and super defensively but will never be a big offensive d-man, better than Gorges but no Subban. Once he bulks up a bit more he should be a soild d-man come 2013-14 and is likely just behind Pateryn in depth chart, who already is NHL size and also a good shot-blocker as well. Not sure how Bournival's game will translate to pros? May be a dandy 3rd line centre down the road? Seems most have jumped on Tinordi band wagon and with good reason. If he was used on the PP the team would give up fewer goals,haha. If he can pack on 5 or 10 lbs he likely wont be in AHL very long before 1st call up, but you can see Charlie Coyle is almost a match for him, as Coyle is NHL size and Tinordi does need to add more strength for sure, as he wont be playing vs any 16 year old kids in AHL and would have his hands full with Stall's, Malkin's and Perry's of the league (but most NHL d-men have trouble with these guys also).

And was at that point ol Serge Savard and many others got quite upset? I remember the 2003 one where McGuire was ranting (i know, that goes without saying) about how skilled Kostitsyn was and if not for siezures he would of been top 5 for sure, but dont remember 2005 draft at all.

I agree, just dont thnk Shawinigan can compete with the other 3 teams, hope so, but will see in a couple hours how they fare vs Edmonton's big skilled d-core, Curtis Lazar is one super young player to keep eye on.

I think the refusal to deal away any UFAs at any deadline year after year, only to watch Souray/Kovalev/Strait/Koivu/Pouliot/ etc all walk for nothing on July 1st, along with nickle and diming the draft picks to add role players, like Sopel/Mara/Moore, has been killer.

I think if you flip back through the 44 pages on this topic, you will see Galchenyuk is in no way a sleeper and likely the favorite at #3, even though all likely agree Grigorenko has all the talent in the world, but it is between the ears that no one is sure of, or willing to risk a once in 32 year top 3 pick for the Habs on? Maybe Timmins and staff see otherwise and whomever they pick should be a good one. I think the GM sort of takes a back seat and lets scouting crew evaluate prospects (Bobby Clarke couldnt even remember Claude Giroux's name at podium) and if a highly valued one, like a Tinordi, has slipped some, then the GM is likely consulted before trading up/swapping picks. Otherwise i think Timmins simply take best player available, ignores curent roster needs and whether pick is a centre/winger/d-man is a secondary consideration. (e.g. took Beaulieu at 17 when Mark McNeill was still available and McNeill is basically a Gaunce clone and a big skilled centre, but Beaulieu had slid and was BPA).

Well put and agree 100%, i see the need for 1 upgrade in top 6 forward group and add 1 big crease clearing d-man and all should be fine.

Winning is everything is it? I will see if Bergevin can work in some CHL teams to play and tell him you will pay the same ticket price as a Hab vs Leaf or Bruin game eh? Outcome mIght be 25-1 but a win is a win right? Sorry to be sarcastic, but i disagree 100% that every win is equal. Consistantly beating inferior teams is important, but not the same as 2 equally matched teams (rivals) playing each other.

100% agree, duck no one, to battle and defeat the toughest opponent is what you want (or even if lose to a superior oppenant, but give er all you got in loss, is fine by me) Dont want to lose, but a win over a crap team is pretty empty and meaningless, winning aint everything, a competitive hard-hitting fast series is what i want to see.

Chances are he might be similar to a Steve Quailer or Dustin Walsh type player eh (but has lower offensive production at same stage of development than those 2, similar body type though)? And really 42nd is as high as he should be taken isnt it, and likely be more a 3rd rounder at best??

thanks, i knew little of his track record

You make a huge assumption; that Riberio and others noted would of played exact same with Habs? Would John Leclaire have done as well without Lindros as his centre? Not a chance. Would Sergai/Grobovski/Riberio have played the same without first being cast off for bag of pucks and realizing they aint irreplacable and are i step from KHL, very hard to say? You also assume the Habs are different than most other teams, who also jettison troublemaking youngsters in bout same frequency, most likely? Myself, i would take a hard working mediocre player over a slightly more skilled floater like Cammalleri who dosent produce to his salary expectations and then blames everything but what he sees in the mirror for his failure.