bar Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 (edited) Projected Lines: Kostitsyn- Plekanec - B. Gionta Cammalleri - Gomez - Moen Pyatt - Halpern - Lapierre Pouliot - Eller - Darche Picard - Weber Gill - Gorges Hamrlik - Spacek Price Auld Kovalchuk - Zajac - Langenbrunner Elias - Arnott - Tedenby Rolston - Zubrus - Clarkson Pelley - Mair - S. Gionta White - Tallinder Greene - Fayne Volchenkov - Corrente Hedberg McKenna Scoring Leaders: Goals: Kostitsyn (9) Assists: Plekanec (15) Points: Plekanec (23) +/-: Picard (+8) Goals: Arnott (8) Assists: Elias (11) Points: Elias (14) +/-: Volchenkov (+4) Team Stats/Notes: Record: 15-8-2 (3rd in East) Scratches: Boyd, Subban Injuries: Markov Record: 8-14-2 (14th in East) Scratches: Magnan-Grenier, Vasyunov Injuries: Brodeur, Taormina, Salvador, Salmela, Parise Puck Drop: 7:00 PM EST TV: RDS, MSG Plus Radio: CJAD,CKAC Note: Those are not the D pairings for NJ, I could only find a list of the d-men but not who they are paired with, I will change later on today. Edited December 2, 2010 by bar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 D pairings look pretty accurate actually, maybe not on the right side but who plays with who looks accurate. Lots of questionables for NJ, Corrente, Elias, Arnott, Langenbrunner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Confirmed, Subban out, Weber in for tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 It's not going to matter who is in the line up for the Devils. I've seen this fish too many times before. 3-0 Devils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 I hope to heck it is not Subban sitting. Picard was awful last night, and Spacek was as well. PKs comments last night proved to ME that he knows what he has to fix his game, he does not need a archaic message in the form of benching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakiqc Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Subban sits because of his dangerous pass in overtime? I only catched the end of the game.. did he played poorly besides that? hmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 Well I posted before Brians post. I am going to over-react, I am going to spew hyperbole, JM is a idiot. Why do this. I hate his lame treatment of rookies...who cares if they take responsibility for their actions, no you sit! You are more talented then any D-man but you sit. See I know how to coach. Friggin idiot. Spacey go ahead make mistakes, you put your time in. Wow Jm is sooo smart. Let's take the best puck moving d we have and replace it with a worse puck moving D, that'll get the habs back on track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskhab Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 I hope to heck it is not Subban sitting. Picard was awful last night, and Spacek was as well. PKs comments last night proved to ME that he knows what he has to fix his game, he does not need a archaic message in the form of benching. Spacek had a tough game, but he always gave a second effort when he had made an error. Subban put himself in such a tough spot when he made errors that he couldn't possibly recover. Picard did do some bad pinching yesterday. Really, only Hamrlik looked good out there defensively. Gorges did alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Subban sits because of his dangerous pass in overtime? I only catched the end of the game.. did he played poorly besides that? hmm He was directly responsible for the game tying and game winning goals. Being a rookie, that'll get you sat most nights. Aside from those, nothing jumped out too much at me being good or bad yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 I disagree that he was directly responsible for the game winning goal. Cammy gets a pass why? Cause the puck was bouncing? Price didn't make the save either, I'm not knocking Price, but I would call out Price and Cammy before Subban on the winning goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskhab Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 All that said, I still don't think anyone should be benched based on last night. But maybe Martin is seeing bad habits creep into P.K.'s game over a longer period of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 More like JM refusing to place blame where it belongs so takes it out on a easy target in PK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Well either way Weber doesn't impress me at all. I guess i'll know more after tonight. I wonder how the habs will get the puck out of there zone tonight, Subban is the only one who can skate it out. That's the one thing that drives me nuts on Martin, rookies sit but when a vet is playing poorly even for a while, nothing is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 (edited) That's the one thing that drives me nuts on Martin, rookies sit but when a vet is playing poorly even for a while, nothing is done. This is what drives me nuts. Subban had a bad game, but copped to it in the media scrum after the game. What the hell kind of message is JM doing. "Rookie you played bad, you owned up to it, but if I don't sit you, I might have to sit Spacek, so umm you're sitting cause you're a rookie..and I hate you rookies, even though you're the best D-man this year and the team will struggle, it's what the old book of coaching tells me to do!" I added a poll to the thread, just curious what everyone thinks. Maybe I'm way off base in my thinking. Edited December 2, 2010 by bar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskhab Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Actually, Auld should be playing tonight. Nothing to do with Price's performance, just it's a logical start to give him... 3 games in 4 nights, give Auld the middle start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richer44 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 I wish you had an option to send JM to the press box in your poll. JM really pisses me off sometimes. I can't wait to hear his excuses when we can't move the puck out of our end tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 I disagree that he was directly responsible for the game winning goal. Cammy gets a pass why? Cause the puck was bouncing? Price didn't make the save either, I'm not knocking Price, but I would call out Price and Cammy before Subban on the winning goal. It was a leading pass, doomed from the get-go. That's the part that bugged me about the goal, he played the puck into a relatively crowded area which is risky in itself. It's a split second decision, and it'd work sometimes, just not yesterday. As for the benching, it's a culmination of things I'm sure. There was last night, the 2 incidents with Plekanec in practice, and I would surmise the chirping played a role as well. I could see a reasonable case being made that he needs to be taken down a notch - and all parties, not just Subban are to blame for that. But a 1 game sit down isn't the end of the world. He'll be back Saturday, win or lose tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 What incidents are you referring to Brian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 What incidents are you referring to Brian? 2 shoving matches with Plekanec in practice last week, both were caught on TV cameras. They weren't much but enough that the coaches would take notice. Both appeared to be started by PK as well and when it's with your leading scorer, the rookie isn't getting the benefit of the doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 Hmm..I saw the one after the Philly game. Still not enough for me to want to see one of the best players this season. If the Habs lose tonight I will not be one happy fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Hmm..I saw the one after the Philly game. Still not enough for me to want to see one of the best players this season. If the Habs lose tonight I will not be one happy fan. The one after the Philly game was the second and smaller one I do believe. I'm not thrilled with the decision either but I can understand why. It's gutsy, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 As a fan, I want consistancy and I see none in the coaching of JM. I'm not saying he isn't a good coach, but I am not happy with all his recent moves. JM BETTER know what he's doing because this could backfire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 As a fan, I want consistancy and I see none in the coaching of JM. I'm not saying he isn't a good coach, but I am not happy with all his recent moves. JM BETTER know what he's doing because this could backfire. It could, but as most of us concede anyways, we're cursed against NJ. I think watching the plays develop from the pressbox may help give him some perspective; honestly, when was the last time he sat for a game at any level? I forget who it was last year (may not have even been a Hab) but the player said watching from above for one game really helped him see where some of his mistakes were being made. I think that may be the goal here with Subban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wamsley01 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Any comment we make comes with much less info than those making the decision. Just like the Price/Halak situation. It is silly to get out of sorts with zero information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 Haha but to be honest Wammy if we couldn't comment with any information...there would be very few posters haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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