Leafs Suck Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 The Hockey News season preview contains the following: (no I didn't buy it, read it somewhere else) -No habs in the top 50 players in the league (Theodore should be IMO).. including Kirk Maltby -6 Goalies made the list, so what they're saying is Theodore is not even a top 5 goalie in the league -Habs get a C-, while Toronto, along with teams like Florida and Phoenix, get a much better rating. The toronto Hockey News has been a joke for years. They've been anti-Montreal for a while now and all this does is prove the point. [Edited on 2005/9/9 by Leafs Suck] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_Habs_Fan Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 Could someone scan it (if someone is going to buy it?) So we europeans could read it also......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortcat1 Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 Big deal! These are the same guys that give their ratings on draft-age players and rate some as virtual surefire stars. Later, when a team has picked these same surefire star prospects and then these prospects don't work out, guess who readily says that those teams picked poorly at the draft? What two-faced garbage! :ghg::ghg::ghg::ghg: [Edited on 2005/9/9 by shortcat1] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matsnaslundsuperfan Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 much to my surprise, Shortcat 1 actually has made an intelligent point. I would like to know where they had ranked Calgary or Tampa Bay 2 years ago at this time. Furthermore Bob Makenzie (the face of Hockey News) had egg all over his face this past draft when he had no idea as to who was going to draft who. :-^up yours Hockey News. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortcat1 Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 Originally posted by matsnaslundsuperfan much to my surprise, Shortcat 1 actually has made an intelligent point. What! It's you again! Why don't you get off of my back! It's getting to the point that I can't sleep anymore! My wife says that I should go and get counselling! I told her: "No way! I'm not going to admit this in public! I've got a reputation to maintain! No one's going to know that I'm not really a mild, gentle, loving, kind-hearted, gracious, peace-loving individual..... ooops.... I think I just let the cat out of the bag............ CRAP!!!! :wall::wall: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matsnaslundsuperfan Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 You are as your avatar would suggest....... a little looney. Ps. To HW management All apologies. I will try harder and refrain from anymore negative comments towards your esteemed member.:bow: :hlogo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortcat1 Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Originally posted by matsnaslundsuperfanPs. To HW management All apologies. I will try harder and refrain from anymore negative comments towards your esteemed member.:bow: :hlogo: Ya, there he goes again! Suckin' up to the powers that be in order to make me look bad. I can't believe this! Is he getting away with this? That schmuck just says what needs to be said in order to get away with terrorizing me! Arrrghhhhhhhhhhh! :wall::wall: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoHabs2002 Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 matsnaslundsuperfan: last time I checked Bob McKenzie last wrote for the Mag. 5-6 years ago. Bobby is a full time TSNer right now. Not to mention one of the best (along with Cuthbert, Millen, and Mguire (sp)) hockey analyst in the business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les_glorieux Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 i hate mcguire (or however you spell his name) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matsnaslundsuperfan Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 According to his bio on the tsn web site, Bob has been an associate editor for The Hockey News for the last three years. Yes I agree he is an excellent analyst for the sport. However, he and everyone else associated with this 'smut' of a mag will be eating their words. How dare they!!! Habs are a lot better in my opinion than they think. C- to a team who made it as far as they did in the playoffs 2003. This is essentially the same team. Get real! I can't believe I'm getting upset over such stupidity.:?-:?- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Of all the draft lists that were made, the TSN list, compiled in large part by MacKenzie was easily the closest. Bob may be a lot of things, but what is isn't is ignorant of the draft and of young talent. That's where he's at his best, and I think it'd be hard for *anyone* to challenge him there. As to the Toronto Hockey News.... 'Nuff said. Anyone who rates Toronto highly this year is really going out on a limb. If there's one GM who won't get the benefit of a grace period because of the new rules, it's Ferguson, who has done some pretty daring things. That team is in large trouble and I would say might struggle to make the playoffs. Interesting to note the difference between the average Leaf fan and the average habs fan. The average Leaf fan will ALWAYS think they are challengers for the Cup. (Uh huh. Well over a quarter century and still dreaming.) While the average habs fan criticizes his team to no end. How DARE Lafleur not score three tonight. Two isn't good enough. And if you think that comment is exaggerating things, ask an old-timer habs fan. Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les_glorieux Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 the question is, which is worse for the respective team? OBVIOUSLY LEAF FANS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoHabs2002 Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 I agree! The Habs will "prove' most people wrong this year, but let me play devil's advocate a little here. You are an analyst and looking at all the teams. Here are the Habs with out of the 12 forward positions you have at least 3 spots (including a second line spot) being battled for by at least 6 unproven prospects (including Dags, not for me as I believe he'll continue his scoring this season, but most have doubts so I'll include him in the unprovens). Further, you have a defense corps of no names (aside from Souray, who has only 1 good year to his name and Markov and Komi who should/could be a force this year). So, ya from the outside I can see why everyone looks so down on the habs, but I still don't buy it. Everyone is in to Calgary this year and they've only really netted hamrlik from opeing roster of two years ago, but they've proven what they can do, so people believe now. Habs can potentially have a better D than Toronto, have a better goalie and the scoring will probably be even. So the Habs should be better than the leafs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckham Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 ...although he may still have a financial stake, since his father (now deceased I believe), was the founder and long time owner of the publication. Whatever, you can't slag Bobby Mac for his hockey smarts. He is far and away the most astute, and least biased, hockey writer out there. As for the Habs, the boys in Vegas have them at 22-1 to win the Cup, which places them 17th among the 30 teams in the league. That is probably the best fix you can get at the moment on where they fit in the scheme of things. Theodore is hugely overrated in my books. I used to be a fan, but he has done nothing since signing his huge contract following his Vezina season. I can't disagree on his not making the top 50, and can't see him ever regaining his status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigRedC Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 I suscribe to HockeyNews and receieved a yearbook (contains perdiction , etc...) Anyways I was really annoyed after reading it. Regarding the game's top 50 players, WHY is Brendan Morrow rated above Saku Koivu, Kovalev, Souray, Theodore, Ryder, Rebeiro??? Like what the heck??? An then the team info section...And I quote DESCLAIMER: THE FOLLOWING QUOTES DO NOT REPRESENT THE VIEWS OF THRB FRANCE ASSESMENT C+ "Like Edmonton, Montreal had a long run of first round flops.But quality picks later on offer balence."THN Other teams... Atlanta B- Edmonton B- L.A. B- Toronto B- NYI c+ [Edited on 2005/9/10 by TheBigRedC] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafs Suck Posted September 11, 2005 Author Share Posted September 11, 2005 Koivu, Kovalev and Theodore are all better than Morrow, Maltby and several others who the Hockey News put on their "top 50"... They have no busniess calling themselves the hockey news IMO. Either a) They're a bunch of Leaf fans, if so call yoursel the Toronto Love Fest News B) Like I stated before, if you honestly thirk Kirk Maltby is a better forward than Saku Koivu and Alex Kovalev then you clearly know nothing about hockey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matsnaslundsuperfan Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Ok.... I've had time to lick my wounds over the comment I've made about Bob Mackenzie. He as an editor of this (as many of you have put it) a "biased" magazine. So to you all who think of him so highly, enjoy this propaganda and consider yourselves leaf fans...... I've said enough. I'm on to another topic. :hlogo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortcat1 Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Originally posted by matsnaslundsuperfan I've said enough. :hlogo: Yahoo! Hourrah! Yeah! :clap: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebehabs Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 i think they just analyse by *what's on paper*... like if u look at pittsburgh's lineup, u will be very positive vs habs, a so-so team... ON PAPER!!! but what really counts is on the ice! for pittsburgh, most of the guys never had never played together so the chemistry will be very important for that team~ if we look at the habs, the *important* elements are still there (koivu / zednik / theodore / ribeiro / ryder / bouillon, etc.) they know themselves pretty well so the chemistry is already there~ i'm not saying that pittsburgh is not a good team, but it's gonna take a few months to adjust themselves and be comfortable~ so from what i see, i think habs should get a higher rating than a C-~ i would give them a B at least GO HABS GO!!! let's win the cup and K.O. all the anti-habs hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stjrandy Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Although the ranking had me annoyed at first I looked closer and there are 2 rankings. The first is for the organization on the ice and the second is for the organization for the future ( draft picks coaches etc.) I personally think the Habs will remain a C+ until they learn to score more goals.:hlogo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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