BTH Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 i guesssssssssssssssss............ if only music wasn't a subjective kind of thing... whatever would happen to walter ostenek, the winner of three grammies and 13 other nominations... sigh................. GO :hlogo: GO! Very rarely is anything 100% subjective. There may be a couple of people who prefer some shitty band to the Beatles but a huge percent of the population would be against them. Saying a band likw the Beatles or the Stones are/were very good is not opinion - it's fact. And Eminem is definitely up there with all the greats of rap. He's actually the only rap artist that I like (more than 1 or 2 songs from). I know Jets likes him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsniper Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Very rarely is anything 100% subjective. There may be a couple of people who prefer some shitty band to the Beatles but a huge percent of the population would be against them. Saying a band likw the Beatles or the Stones are/were very good is not opinion - it's fact. That is so wrong, music is one of the most subjective things in the world. Hundreds of genres, thousands of different kinds of sounds and millions of different tastes, very rarely will you find anyone agree on one band. For example, I think the Beatles AND the Stones both suck. Theres other people out there who love them but I think they're both terrible. My opinion. This is why I hate talking about music on the internet because it IS so subjective. And Eminem is definitely up there with all the greats of rap. He's actually the only rap artist that I like (more than 1 or 2 songs from). I know Jets likes him. This is true, one of my favorite artists ever. I know lots of people don't like him but I think he's one of music's great genius's. The Marshall Mathers LP is one of the best CDs ever made. And now on a side note, a co-worker stole my iPod today. Needless to say, I'm not pleased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 And now on a side note, a co-worker stole my iPod today. Needless to say, I'm not pleased. WHAT! Do you know which one? That is a real piss off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsniper Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 WHAT! Do you know which one? That is a real piss off! No, I don't. I had it in my bag inside an unlocked locker in the change rooms upstairs so it could be anyone. All I know is it's a male. My dads buying me a new one on Saturday but still...I'm REALLY pissed off. Talk about disrespectful. He had to of opened a random locker, pulled my bag out, gone through my bag and taken it and then put it all back. I went to listen to it while I waited for my dad to pick me up, which is how I found out it was gone. A birthday present from my mom and dad for my 18th birthday now belongs to some Safeway douchebag. Wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 No, I don't. I had it in my bag inside an unlocked locker in the change rooms upstairs so it could be anyone. All I know is it's a male. My dads buying me a new one on Saturday but still...I'm REALLY pissed off. Talk about disrespectful. He had to of opened a random locker, pulled my bag out, gone through my bag and taken it and then put it all back. I went to listen to it while I waited for my dad to pick me up, which is how I found out it was gone. A birthday present from my mom and dad for my 18th birthday now belongs to some Safeway douchebag. Wonderful. Hopefully he is dumb enough not to hock it and you catch him with it at work with all of your songs still on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsniper Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Hopefully he is dumb enough not to hock it and you catch him with it at work with all of your songs still on it. Well it will only work with my computer so no matter what, he's stuck with my songs. And I have a lot of catchy Top 40 crap on there I'm sure he'll enjoy. If it was a perfect world, this asshole I work with in produce would pull it out in the back. I'd have a great reason to finally beat the shit out of him. I feel a little naked sitting here without it now, it hasn't left my side since I got it two years ago. It's like I've lost a friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted April 5, 2007 Author Share Posted April 5, 2007 Very rarely is anything 100% subjective. There may be a couple of people who prefer some shitty band to the Beatles but a huge percent of the population would be against them. Saying a band likw the Beatles or the Stones are/were very good is not opinion - it's fact. And Eminem is definitely up there with all the greats of rap. He's actually the only rap artist that I like (more than 1 or 2 songs from). I know Jets likes him. Music is a personal experience. Being that I don't want to beat my wife, nor do I hate my mother, Eminem has little to do with my personal experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsniper Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Music is a personal experience. Being that I don't want to beat my wife, nor do I hate my mother, Eminem has little to do with my personal experience. Do you realize how little thats in his music anymore? Even on MMLP, it was only a couple songs. If anything, he attacks the Bush administration these days and just whats wrong with society. He's admitted himself he finds it totally wrong that hes become a role model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Do you realize how little thats in his music anymore? Even on MMLP, it was only a couple songs. If anything, he attacks the Bush administration these days and just whats wrong with society. He's admitted himself he finds it totally wrong that hes become a role model. last album was silly, it was just weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsniper Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 last album was silly, it was just weird. Yeah, I didn't really like Encore that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted April 5, 2007 Author Share Posted April 5, 2007 Do you realize how little thats in his music anymore? Even on MMLP, it was only a couple songs. If anything, he attacks the Bush administration these days and just whats wrong with society. He's admitted himself he finds it totally wrong that hes become a role model. If he admits it himself, I no longer need to argue it. Thanks jets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Rap is dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted April 5, 2007 Author Share Posted April 5, 2007 Rap is dead and yet D's continue to be thrown on cadalicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsniper Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 If he admits it himself, I know longer need to argue it. Thanks jets I can still argue you don't know how to spell though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Dear god, that cadlick song was number 6 last week on the hot 100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/charts/char...llboard+Hot+100 well if the hot 100 is any indication. 1. is hip hop r&b mainly with guest rappers but mainly hip hop 2. fergie is pop 3. Beyonce and Shakira pop 4. rap 5. rock rap r&b band (that chevy commercial people) 6. g. stephani with akon pop 7. avril - pop rock 8. rap- cadalick boy 9. timberflake and his I want to be Chris Martin on the piano song 10. Daughtry - american idol rock band Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted April 5, 2007 Author Share Posted April 5, 2007 I can still argue you don't know how to spell though. Curses! A solid argument ruined by a spelling mistake! um..uh......LOOK! Otters holding hands! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 so if you do the hot 100 top 10 2 rappers 4 pop songs 1 pop rock 1 hip hop 2 rock songs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsniper Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/charts/char...llboard+Hot+100 well if the hot 100 is any indication. 1. is hip hop r&b mainly with guest rappers but mainly hip hop 2. fergie is pop 3. Beyonce and Shakira pop 4. rap 5. rock rap r&b band (that chevy commercial people) 6. g. stephani with akon pop 7. avril - pop rock 8. rap- cadalick boy 9. timberflake and his I want to be Chris Martin on the piano song 10. Daughtry - american idol rock band So a white guy singing a song with piano in it is immediately a Chris Martin rip-off? Funny, I remember this guy named Elton John.... Fergie, Beyonce and Stefani are all R&B too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 So a white guy singing a song with piano in it is immediately a Chris Martin rip-off? Funny, I remember this guy named Elton John.... Fergie, Beyonce and Stefani are all R&B too. well I don't know what grammy award show you saw but he clearly went chris martin but he couldn't play, it just played the same cord over and over again lol. He tries so hard to show its actually him behind all his music when its his producers its quite funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsniper Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 well I don't know what grammy award show you saw but he clearly went chris martin but he couldn't play, it just played the same cord over and over again lol. He tries so hard to show its actually him behind all his music when its his producers its quite funny. The grammys aren't a real awards show so I didn't watch it. But two things. 1. Using Chris Martin as the end-all be-all of singing and playing the piano at the same time is wrong. Not only are the way better people who did it before him, anyone who wants to rip off that talentless hack in the first place should get out of music. 2. All I saw in the last part was the same tired argument of "teh p0pular p3opl3 d0n't do dere own m00zik!". Are you there in the studio when they make it? Are you there at his side when the lyrics are written? You have the internet, TV and radio to go off of. And of course, all 3 have proven to be VERY credible sources. This is why I hate music on the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 The grammys aren't a real awards show so I didn't watch it. But two things. 1. Using Chris Martin as the end-all be-all of singing and playing the piano at the same time is wrong. Not only are the way better people who did it before him, anyone who wants to rip off that talentless hack in the first place should get out of music. lol talentless hack huh? Yeah he sure is 'talentless'. He actually plays instruments and has been since he was a little kid. He writes his own music and lyrics and is one of the most sought after song writer in the business. 2. All I saw in the last part was the same tired argument of "teh p0pular p3opl3 d0n't do dere own m00zik!". Are you there in the studio when they make it? Are you there at his side when the lyrics are written? You have the internet, TV and radio to go off of. And of course, all 3 have proven to be VERY credible sources. This is why I hate music on the internet. wow somebody is getting testy. Timberlake's last album is all Timbaland. His first was all Neptunes He can't become legit until he becomes the sole writer of his music and the main producer. Then he becomes legit. He's trying to hard to be real when everyone knows he's just a boy band singer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsniper Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Was your most prized posession ######ing stolen mere hours ago? Yeah, I'm in a shitty mood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 oh man that completely sucks what was stolen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 His I POD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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