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Did you read my entire post? "- He is given more defensive zone starts than Ozone starts. He's given a bigger percentage of Defensive Zone starts than any defenceman on his team and bigger than both of the other two finalists. He put up over 60 points, despite his deployment as the top shut down pair, while the Josi/Ellis duo is used for more offensive deployment at 5v5 - Despite the fact he is used in a far defensive deployment, he still is a positive Corsi player, and has a positive relative Corsi as well. - Despite the fact he is used in that defensive deployment, he is neck and neck with all the other defence in points... yes he's 8th, but there is very little separation from 1st to 8th... He's 9 points off John Carlson, but just 4 points off Hedman and 3 on Doughty. - His d-zone starts is, by a big margin, the highest of any of the top 15 defencemen in scoring." All of that goes to why he is a deserving nominee.... Add in the fact that he leads the league (tied with Hedman) in Primary points as MOLG pointed out.... and yes, he deserves the nomination. I still think Hedman wins the award.

Subban's most common linemate this season is Emelin, over 200 minutes than Ekholm: http://www.naturalstattrick.com/playerreport.php?season=20172018&stype=2&sit=5v5&stdoi=oi&rate=n&v=t&playerid=8474056 Doughty had Fobort the most, Hedman had Dotchin and Stralman.

He is the best defenceman on his team - He is given more defensive zone starts than Ozone starts. He's given a bigger percentage of Defensive Zone starts than any defenceman on his team and bigger than both of the other two finalists. He put up over 60 points, despite his deployment as the top shut down pair, while the Josi/Ellis duo is used for more offensive deployment at 5v5 - Despite the fact he is used in a far defensive deployment, he still is a positive Corsi player, and has a positive relative Corsi as well. - Despite the fact he is used in that defensive deployment, he is neck and neck with all the other defence in points... yes he's 8th, but there is very little separation from 1st to 8th... He's 9 points off John Carlson, but just 4 points off Hedman and 3 on Doughty. - His d-zone starts is, by a big margin, the highest of any of the top 15 defencemen in scoring. When you are looking at shooting percentage, plus/minus, etc... you are looking at the wrong stats....

It’s funny when you think about it. When talking about Alzner, Bergevin refers to how many people thought Chara was too slow a few years ago and it turns out he was just tired. His comment about Alzner is then that perhaps he was just tired this year, implying that he may not be too slow for the league. The topic later changes to our centers and one of the names that comes up is Eric Staal. Bergevin then states that it looked like he was done a few years ago. First he defends Chara and states that he wasn’t actually over the hill and that we can’t go by what people say in that respect. He also says that Alzner may have just been tired this year, sardonic or not. He then comments that Staal looked over the hill and everyone was saying the same thing. Why couldn’t Staal have been “just tired”?

Oh right, the big sample which says Pacioretty had a bad season in 17-18 after a terrible playoffs in 2017. That big sample. My point was I would prefer to pay Smith at his current amount than what Pacioretty will eventually make because it ain't worth what he brings in the season. You seem to be under the assumption that one day Pacioretty's playoff scoring is going to match his regular season scoring because... big sample? He suddenly gets faster? Luck?

Should we be interested in signing him because, he has a great attitude, character, skill, or he is French, or because he actually brings much needed skill to the lineup. i don’t care a rats ass about signings of more minor leaguers, 4th liners, or bench/depth players. We need skill, speed, top end talent and scoring. If he doesn’t fill these needs, who cares. We can ice the 4th ones for five teams, don’t really need to get more.

Can someone explain to me how Subban is a finalist for the Norris? Real question, not hating. I think a majority of people would agree that he isn't even the best dman on his own team. Among defensemen in the league: *Tied for 8th in scoring *17th in points per game *Tied for 19th in +/- *Has taken the 7th most penalties *Tied for 6th in power play points *Tied with a million guys with 2 game winning goals *Tied for 13th in shots per game *Tied for 35th in shooting percentage *21st in average time on ice, behind his teammate Josi I can't wait to see the answers

Okay, we are debating about whether Subban is the best defenseman on his own team, we should be talking Norris nomination. Do you think Subban is worthy of a nomination?