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A little too obvious of a response. I could have written it myself for you before you replied. You do realize how simple an argument it is, right? Carey Price won MVP of the league two years ago. That means that there wasn't a single player more valuable than him. He also happens to be the last line of defense and a team only has one starting goalie so his importance is magnified to an even greater extent.MB could have traded David Desharnais for Alex Ovechkin and Price would still be the reason for any of our success. That's not a shot at the coach and in this case it's not even a shot at management because he would have made a solid move there. Heck, we acquired Radulov for nothing who has been an elite Russian player, top 3-4 in his prime with Kovalchuk, Ovechkin and Malkin in their prime and still, Price will be the main reason for our success should we have any. That's reality regardless of who's behind the bench. Saying that does nothing to demonstrate how bad Therrien and Bergevin are and the statement is nothing more than a possibly valid strong opinion. The ego thing is all theory, just as much of one as Subban was a cancer to some of his teammates. It simply depends what side of the fence you're on and how you're trying to support your argument. Neither side is an actual fact, just an educated guess by people trying to think outside of the box.

A month later and the Cucumber is still steaming about the trade I see The thing about this deal is that it's going to be talked about for a long long time. The comparisons will never go away. Our eyes will be peeled to the Nashville box scores and highlights all the time. It's sort of a Romeo and Juliet tragedy, except it's PK and the fans in love and management doesn't want them together. We'll never know what could have been... That being said, there are plenty of ways to look at their respective contracts and evaluate. Weber's contract is 12% cheaper and that extra space adds value to the rest of the team. It could be the difference between acquiring an impact player or not. Is PK 12% better than Weber? It's definitely debatable. Weber's remaining money owed is much lower than the cap hit and that adds value to a contract in terms of having an asset available in a trade. So theoretically he could be traded for a better player in the future than his cap hit and ability suggests. Subban now has his no trade clause revoked because the Preds don't have to honor it, so that's a plus for the Preds that the Habs wouldn't have had. The way I compare the two contracts is that I judge them for the remaining term left on Subban's. Because if you want to talk about the last 4 years of Weber, you need to tack on what the next contract for Subban would be. Because he could still be doing his thing in 6 years, putting up points, saving sick kids, and being a big personality. What'll that be worth then? Who knows what the next CBA will be like when it comes time? I guess my point is that looking past the next 6 years has too many variables to be a concern at this point. I also want to add that we don't know if Subban is just entering his prime, thus going to be better. Just like we don't know that Weber is on the decline from his peak. To say Subban had an off year but that was an anomaly, and say that Weber had a good year but is declining is hypocritical. We don't know if Subban already reached his peak and is declining himself. Maybe he'll become more involved in off ice activities now and his game will suffer. Maybe Weber is a physical beast and is just warming up. It just seems so easy to visualize a player like Shea Weber lifting up the cup doesn't it? We won't know till it all happens

Agree. All of my faith in both of these guys is gone. I would rather have Subban than Weber. And I'm terrified that I'm gonna watch him in Nashville and cry in my booze. But it's all over but the cryin and I want to be a Weber fan.

So who's going into next season wanting to be right, and who's going into it cheering on Weber and hoping we succeed from this trade over the next 3 years? Regardless of who won the trade, I am close to being ready to embracing it. If Weber can crease clear as well as some say, this is a big deal in today's NHL. I would rank it equal to transition play in many ways. Many goals are scored with garbage tips and such in the crease. I like the idea of having a guy facing the top lines and clearing the crease. Protecting our true mvp. If he can help the teams best player since roy (price) I am ready to cheer him on.

Subban played 100 more games in his "6 seasons" than Souray. who was nursing an injured wrist much of the time. Shelly "only" had 18 fights because no one was anxious to try him out, bad wrist or not. Subban had 12 because that was as many times as players could catch up to him as he was skating away as fast as possible from any confrontation. Shooting off his fat lips the whole time. He has been nothing but a loudmouth and a coward that I've seen on the ice.

Has Weber ever won anything other than being part of an elite all-star team where he had a partner like Doughty??? Subban has been in the league for a shorter duration and has been to the final 4 twice. Scored key playoff winning goals. How many critical goals has Weber scored in the playoffs?? When has Weber taken over a playoff game or willed his team through a playoff series??? I don't care how many PP goals Weber scored last year. Souray scored more PP goals and 10 more goals than Weber did last year and we still missed the playoffs during Souray's big year. Do i think we miss the playoffs, not unless Price is hurt. Do i HOPE we win a cup - definitely. Do i think we have a legitimate chance - nope. Not with MT as coach. This isn't about Subban being a better dman than weber 3 years from now. Subban is a MUCH better Dman now. Weber played with Jossi who is a better dman than him. Subban played with Markov in his twilight and dmen that are 2nd or 3rd pairing men. Yet despite playing 14 LESS games than Weber, Subban finished with the same number of points. The habs would be a better team TODAY with Subban. In 3 years the gap is just going to widen. Read the interview with MaxPac from either yesterday. Sure doesn't sound like Subban was a cancer in the dressing room or that maxpac had any issues with him. This is about an idiot coach who hated Subban before he was coach. Came in wanting to break him and couldn't do so. It's about a GM who is not holding his coaching staff accountable. Lefebvre should have been fired TWO years ago, yet still has a job. MT should have been fired last December, but still has his job. If MB made a trade for a goalie like Reimer last year, despite the injuries to Gallagher or Petry, the habs make the playoffs. Management folded last year and the players followed their lead. Like i said earlier, MB is the first example of the captain of the ship hell bent on sinking the ship. How many failed signings did he have last year ALONE?? How many horrible moves did he make last year ALONE?? the spin was Subban was the reason for creating a bad team environment. Management failed and the idiot owner backed management. This is the same owner who cut off Cunnewyorths' nuts two days after cunneyworth was given the job. It's all about image with this management team - not winning.