Habs Fan in Edmonton

Those trades can really come back to bite you. The Leafs gave up a 1st and a 4th for Nick Foligno 3 years ago. How did that turn out? Foligno played a total of 7 regular season games and 4 playoff games amassing a total of ZERO goals and 5 assists. I almost felt bad for the Leafs. Almost.

They could offer a 1st from another year or one of their top prospects. And if that guaranteed winning a cup I am sure they would do it in a heartbeat. But a GM also has to think about the future and the Leafs have traded away so many picks that I don't blame Treliving for being a little cautious.

They don't have much choice unless they want to trade a 1st round pick and their 1st rounder from 25 is already gone. No 2nd round picks to trade.

You don't believe Armia is finally reaching his potential? How skeptical. LOL

Yes, it was poorly worded, in the article where I took this it clarified what they meant and indicated the same quote you mentioned. The headline was just poorly worded.

There is logic in entertaining a trade. Pettersson is elite, no doubt about that and it would make sense Vancouver would ask for Suzuki plus and rightly so. Elite centers don't grow on trees. One factor to consider is that Suzuki is signed to a pretty favourable long term contract. If he delivers 75-80 points a year, plays a strong 2 way game than 7.8M/year is a very good contract for the Habs especially with the cap going up. Pettersson will be demanding Nylander type money (11M plus ) and rightly so. He is in a great bargaining position. A lot to consider, how much the plus would be for the Habs and how much they would have to pay him. Apparently they have had talks with Carolina. Vancouver could take KK back, he certainly has term. LOL

I agree with the price, if you don't get it then wait until next year.

Leafs get Lybushkin for a 3rd and a 6th. In the 2025 draft the Leafs don't have a pick until the 5th round, must be exciting for their scouts. Toronto Maple Leafs acquire D Ilya Lyubushkin from Anaheim Ducks for third-round pick | TSN

I agree and not surprised. A couple days ago Savard wasn't even on the top 50 list on TSN's trade bait board. Now he is at 49 with Tanev gone. A RD for Columbus, Andrew Peeke is at 36?? Who the heck is Andrew Peeke?? I guess the brain trust at TSN in Toronto doesn't think Savard is worth talking about so the fans don't think he exists.

That is a good point, he was a 2nd round pick and still only 20. The Flames seem high on him and most here don't know much about him. So basically the Flames got 2 x 2nd round picks and a 3rd for Tanev and retaining salary for the rest of this year. Not a bad haul.

That's true, obviously the Islanders valued Romanov pretty highly.

Agree on both counts. I am thinking more of moving late twenties (likely Winnipeg's pick) to mid teens. Not easy or cheap. I don't count 14 years ago as recent, just the only one I could think of off the top of my head.

I can think of one example where the Habs did move up in the draft. In 2010 they moved up 5 spots from 27 to 22 to draft Jarred Tinordi. It cost them a 2nd round pick and they also got a 4th round pick back. It didn't turn out great for them but Tinordi is still around.

I think your foggy memory is correct. I do remember Hughes saying he tried to trade up. However it's a difficult thing to do as teams are usually unwilling to trade down in the 1st round. I can't think of any recent examples.

The biggest risk is Tanev gets hurt then you get nothing. Given the physical shot blocking style of Tanev, that is certainly a possibility. I am sure Conroy had numerous conversations with other GM's and had a pretty good idea what the market was.

I would agree, because of the term left it would be more of a "hockey trade". Matheson is a nice story, local boy returning home and doing very well. I seriously doubt Hughes is looking to trade him, it would have to be a great offer.

I agree with all your points. They do need some experience on defense and I am not sure Hughes is ready to trade a hometown boy like Matheson unless the return is really really good. He does have a lot of value. I wouldn't trade Savard for a 2nd round pick either, I suspect he stays until the deadline next year.

I agree, if getting a late 2nd is the best you can do then you might as well keep him for another year. It could be a quiet deadline for Hughes.

Tanev is a 34 year old UFA, it was either sign him or lose him for nothing. I think they got a decent return. A 2nd and 3rd is not bad even if Grushnikov doesn't turn out.

I agree, it would be costly. But we do need help up front. I wonder how much market value Hutson has?

Absolutely agree. I think it's time to bundle some picks and a young defense prospect to get a higher draft pick and get another stud forward. While Reichel is interesting, I am not sure he is the guy they need.

Let the arms race begin!!

Reichel certainly has some talent, excellent passer, has really struggled this year but put up some good numbers in the AHL and 15 points in 23 games with the Hawks in his first stint with the big team. Still only 21.

I also think that is more likely. In order to trade up you need a partner willing to trade down and that doesn't happen often. The Habs are at the point where they need quality not quantity especially up front. I would be willing to trade a couple 1st rounders (not their own, maybe Winnipeg's and the extra one next year) and a 2nd or maybe Harris to move up and get the guy you want.

I have followed Iginla a lot recently. He is definitely growing on me. Could the Habs trade up to get another 1st round pick in the mid 1st round to get this guy. Also one of the youngest guys in the draft.