TurdBurglar

You should get NHL live instead. You can pick the feed you want to watch. Usually has the Canadian network and American network as choices. The only disadvantage is you would need something to watch it on your TV. For this if you have a PlayStation 4/5 or Xbox (I’m not sure which ones you need for that), you can stream it to your main TV. If you have an android box or Kodi box, there’s an addon for NHL TV that you out in your credentials that you can use, but the interface isn’t pretty. Also if you have to contend with blackouts the NHL live can be used with a VPN to get around blackouts. TLDR; NHL Live is better than Center Ice if you don’t like the Canadian channels.

Coleman was being pushed towards the net by a defenceman (too lazy to look up who it was, it's not important). Very plausible reason to why he "pushed" it. I would argue it would be the same situation as a player being pushed into a goalie by a defenceman and being called back for goalie interference. The act of the defenceman would, and should play a huge part in the call.

I completely agree. I like the stance Commandant took on it. Make it clear, and no room for interpretation, like puck over glass. My personal belief is a goal shouldn't be scored in any semi-intentional way that is not off the stick. A goal where it hits a player, like off the leg or body and goes in is fine as long as they made no effort to make the contact deliberately. If they are in any way, shape or form, attempting to make contact with the puck, the goal should be called back. It would eliminate all these kicking goals, did they alter their movement to attempt to contact the puck? Yes? No goal, plain and simple. No grey area of motion or intent.

Propel - to drive, push, or cause to move in a particular direction, typically forward. The definition doesn’t make the word propel any clearer. A deflection is causing the puck to move in a particular direction, so you can easily say, by definition, deflecting is propelling.

I see your thought process, but the actual rule says nothing about where the player is looking or if he’s turning. It just states that if the puck is deflected into the net by a distinct kicking motion, to what this was, he motioned his skate away from his skating direction and made contact with the puck, deflecting it into the net. There’s nobody can honestly say he did that unintentionally, he’s watching the puck the entire time. Again, this is the same kicking motion as Coleman in round 2. Also, coach’s can’t challenge a kicked in goal, only goalie interferences and stoppages that should of resulted in no goal, like offside or high-stick. That why Tampa couldn’t do anything about it.

I’ve never claimed to be a smart man, but could someone explain to me how MacKinnon deflected the puck in on the Avalance’s first goal using the exact same kicking motion that Calgary’s Coleman used vs the Oilers in round 2, yet one is a goal and one is not? I know someone is going to say the angle that the puck deflected, but the rule isn’t about angle of the puck, it’s kicking motion, to which both were the same. What’s the rules terminology that determines the distinction between the 2?

A real good example if what you are describing would be someone like Kucherov. Stating any deal where you get over a 2nd round #58 overall pick is a "good deal" for him. When in reality anything short of multiple 1st round picks and/or top prospects would be severely undervalue.

Also a full year of development from getting a player this year vs next year.

Well, NJ wants to get better fast and is dangling the 2nd pick to do that. They also have $25m cap space. I don’t follow the Devils much, so I’m not sure who they have to re-sign that will eat a lot of cap space. I will say, Anderson, Petry and the 26th should be close to getting a deal done. A top-6 forward that is in demand and a top-4 defenseman. Only down side with Petry is Hamilton also is RD. It’ll eat half of their cap space, which is where my lack of knowledge on their roster comes in.

Darren Dreger is reporting there’s belief in the NHL that Hughes is trying to get the 2nd pick from New Jersey. I just read from an unreliable source that New Jersey is interested in Anderson. Anderson and the 26th should be the start of something to get the 2nd without adding Suzuki, Caufield or Guhle.

It’s not stupidity. The return would have to be superb. If a Guhle trade can shave a year off the rebuild, it may be worth it. The likelihood of a trade like that materializing is almost nonexistent.

I see what you are going for here, but trading a much needed defensive prospect for an offensive one seems a little reckless. My honest opinion, the only trade that should be acceptable that includes Guhle is for a slam dunk forward or more importantly an established young defensemen. Basically trading the future for now. The reality is nobody will trade a mid-20’s top-4 guy for a strong maybe in a couple of years.

The good news is, Guhle’s performance in the WHL playoffs has made him an expensive commodity. So a well managed trade should net a great return. Not that I am saying anyone should be exploring trading him, just pointing out his value should be sky high right now.

Unless you get Drouin in return, right?

Exactly, the Weber contract benefits them if they sign Kane, which is what this whole proposal is predicated on. Also, the Oilers can spend 110% of the cap space in the off-season as long as LTIR can make them cap compliant to start the season. Which they would be under the 110%, so no need to shed contracts to sign Kane with Weber’s contract in hand. I’ve seen nothing that indicates Weber will ever play another NHL game. A few interviews from Bergevin saying they were hopeful and that is all. There’s no indication anyone should expect Weber to play.

Again, to have the cap compliant space to sign Kane. I doubt there’s many other LTIR contracts out there that gives the Oilers that ability, which are available. Sure, they can trade Pujujarvi for picks or prospects and that would be better value for a return for him, but that doesn’t fill the hole left by Kane and Pujujarvi leaving. At that point what’s more valuable, having Evandar Kane and losing Pujujarvi or losing Pujujarvi and having no replacement for either in the near future? Overall, my proposal has Edmonton a stronger team for the near future.

Kane is worth more than a 2nd round pick to the Oilers. Without this, Edmonton has to move contracts to even have a shot at re-signing Kane, then they have to worry about enough players dressed to field a roster. The trade has to be pitched as with this you get Kane as well which has to be worked out with Kane prior to the trade naturally, not just, overpay for this contract. I’m also not sure what you mean LTIR doesn’t work the way I’m describing. Teams are allowed to spend 110% of the cap as long as LTIR will make them cap compliant, even in the off-season. I’ve been reading a bunch of articles on how it works and I see nothing that says my proposal won’t be valid according to the CBA. I’m not saying they’re right, I’m just saying I’ve seen nothing that says it not valid.

As I was doing my usual reading on the possible players available and what teams want to do, an idea struck me, and I’m sure I’ll get shredded for this proposal. To Edmonton Weber’s contract To Montreal Puljujarvi On the surface it doesn’t seem fair, but let’s dig a little deeper. Edmonton is on cap hell, already basically saying they have a choice between Yamamoto and Puljujarvi, Puljujarvi being the odd man out. They also want to re-sign Kane, who according to rumours will take $7m a season from the Oilers and $8m a season from anyone else. Its also really complicated with his San Jose contract as well, but I’m ignoring that for now as it’s really as clear as mud to what’s going on there. Everything from upheld termination, to reinstatement, to contract upheld and used to pay whatever team he signs with. Yeah, it’s that clear. The above trade gives $7.8m for 4 years from Weber on LTIR to pay Kane, so 4 years at $7m and the Oilers get to pocket about $800k. Plus their roughly $7m in cap space for their other 5 players they need to re-sign. Montreal gets a young player who never lived up to expectations, but can play NHL minutes, and still may pan out to be a top-6 forward with a change of scenery, even if it’s a long shot. TL;DR On the surface it look like Edmonton is over paying for a contract, when in actuality they are gaining Kane as well, or the ability to sign him.

I respect your opinion on Nurse, but disagree he is worth his contract. $6m-$7m maybe, but there isn’t a single aspect of his game that is elite. His contract suggests he has multiple aspects of his game that is elite. Capfriendly lists 10 defencemen being paid over $9m a season. Karlsson, Doughty, Werenski, Fox, McAvoy, Jones, Nurse, Josi, Hamilton and Makar. Jones and Nurse are easily the 2 worse on that list and Jones has been regarded as one of the worse contracts in the NHL.

The story I read was while deciding on the pick, most scouts and Tambellini himself wanted Murray. Lowe, as president of hockey ops, told them to pick Yakupov, vetoing the entire staff.

Welcome to the Kevin Lowe era. He messed the oilers up so bad with his belief that his ring as a player meant he knew everything as management. Scouts wanted Murray and he vetoed the pick for Yakupov.

If size is an issue, isn’t it worth still drafting him, developing him, all with the intentions to use him as a trade chip? I understand too many small players Is an issue, but isn’t it much better to take a better prospect for value purposes, than a worse prospect because they are bigger? I also know prospects don’t hAve a for sure value and the bigger player may end up being the better player. Just a thought.

I’m not sure if a new thread is required. They have announced St Louis has officially been extended as coach, signed to a 3 year deal.

Also the rare breed of center with a strong defensive game and ability to put up points coming right out of the draft is incredibly valuable. Most draftees have to make huge strides to develop their defensive game to an NHL level. Wright comes out of the box with it, and I’m not saying it’s elite level, but fundamentally sound.

If you’re taking a player with a 1st round pick/equivalent prospect as a sweetener, I don’t think anyone should expect that player to be an upgrade on anyone. Is there a chance? Yes, but an extremely slim one.