KoZed Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Really nice to see Dandy score that goal, but my God I hope Carbo doesnt think that warrants a spot on the 1st line.. I hope it does, Dandy has the speed to keep up with Saku and Higgy, and he's strong along the boards. Problem with the 1st line is Koivu! coring Summary 1st Period Montreal 3:03, Christopher Higgins 12 (power play) (Roman Hamrlik, Mark Streit) Montreal 13:40, Kyle Chipchura 3 (Ryan O'Byrne, Christopher Higgins) Montreal 18:18, Tomas Plekanec 9 (Andrei Kostitsyn) 2nd Period Boston 6:10, Phil Kessel 9 (power play) (Dennis Wideman, Zdeno Chara) Boston 8:41, P.J. Axelsson 3 (Marc Savard, Glen Murray) 3rd Period Montreal 13:15, Mathieu Dandenault 4 (Christopher Higgins, Ryan O'Byrne) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brboo Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I hope it does, Dandy has the speed to keep up with Saku and Higgy, and he's strong along the boards. Problem with the 1st line is Koivu! Of course it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 (edited) Of course it is 1 goal in the past 16 games for your #1 center is a problem... Edited December 7, 2007 by KoZed count tonight's game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Good to get a win, I'd almost forgotten what it felt like. Hopefully we can build off of our 1st and 3rd periods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wamsley01 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 (edited) Boy am I glad I dropped Higgins in the hockey pool Edited December 7, 2007 by Wamsley01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitforming Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I hope it does, Dandy has the speed to keep up with Saku and Higgy, and he's strong along the boards. Problem with the 1st line is Koivu! coring Summary 1st Period Montreal 3:03, Christopher Higgins 12 (power play) (Roman Hamrlik, Mark Streit) Montreal 13:40, Kyle Chipchura 3 (Ryan O'Byrne, Christopher Higgins) Montreal 18:18, Tomas Plekanec 9 (Andrei Kostitsyn) 2nd Period Boston 6:10, Phil Kessel 9 (power play) (Dennis Wideman, Zdeno Chara) Boston 8:41, P.J. Axelsson 3 (Marc Savard, Glen Murray) 3rd Period Montreal 13:15, Mathieu Dandenault 4 (Christopher Higgins, Ryan O'Byrne) Wait a minute.... You delete my posts because I mentioned Sopcast and then you have the nerve to write something that stupid? Unreal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brboo Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 He is still setting up plays out there and creating chances, if you are talking about the scoresheet then fine, but the people who sahe looks uninspired out there are crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobin Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Well, they came out better in the 3rd for sure, so that is a good sign. Nice secondary scoring helps too (chips, dandy). Sure hope we didn't just lose Begin for an extended period, but doesn't look good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 3 stars: 1. Higgins 2. O'Byrne 3. Savard Big win for us. It's too bad we let them back in the game, but Carbo did a good job of getting them rallied up for the third. O'Byrne was great on the back end. For a first NHL game, that's as good as you're ever gonna get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 1 goal in the past 16 games for your #1 centre is a problem... A valid point, but Saku has never been one to put up a lot of goals. Comparision-wise, I think he's very similar to Savard, who has 3 goals in the last 16 games. The difference is that Savard has linemates that will bury the chances he sets up. I'm not disputing that Saku is in a slump, but the blame can't be blamed squarely on his shoulders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 3 stars: 1. Higgins 2. O'Byrne 3. Savard Big win for us. It's too bad we let them back in the game, but Carbo did a good job of getting them rallied up for the third. O'Byrne was great on the back end. For a first NHL game, that's as good as you're ever gonna get. 1. MTL L 21 C.HIGGINS 2. BOS C 91 M.SAVARD 3. MTL D 8 M.KOMISAREK Those were the offical ones. To bad Obryne did not get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Boy am I glad I dropped Higgins in the hockey pool So we have to you thank for his output tonight! Thanks, I've got him in 2 pools! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 A valid point, but Saku has never been one to put up a lot of goals. Comparision-wise, I think he's very similar to Savard, who has 3 goals in the last 16 games. The difference is that Savard has linemates that will bury the chances he sets up. I'm not disputing that Saku is in a slump, but the blame can't be blamed squarely on his shoulders. Hey Lazy I love Koivu as well but when his line is slumping he needs to score. That said he had a good third period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBHabs_fan Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 1 goal in the past 16 games for your #1 centre is a problem... There you go again. Since when has Koivu been a goal scorer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFT77 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Nice 3rd period for the Habs. It's a wonder what happens when they don't sit back. They creating many chances and got the Dandy goal. Not to put down Ryder, but no way he has the speed to score that goal. Don't think Dandy is the long-term solution, but looks much better than Smokes on the Koivu right wing. 2 assists for O'byrne, nice solid effort, even though he lost his man on the B's 2nd goal. Love to see Kosty blow by the B's d-man and almost score. Laps had a couple a nice hits. Good win for the Habs. I still have hope for them. Higgy, way to go with 3 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 A valid point, but Saku has never been one to put up a lot of goals. Comparison-wise, I think he's very similar to Savard, who has 3 goals in the last 16 games. The difference is that Savard has line mates that will bury the chances he sets up. I'm not disputing that Saku is in a slump, but the blame can't be blamed squarely on his shoulders. 7 points in the past 16 games then... Saku rarely sets up plays where you tell yourself "how could (insert line mate's name) miss that!?". Too bad NHL.com doesn't have turnovers stats anymore, I'm sure Koivu would be up there because he loses the puck awfully often by making soft passes. Dont agree with it: make your case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 There you go again. Since when has Koivu been a goal scorer? Goalscorer or not, he's being outproduced by the #2 centre and outplayed by the #4 centre. I think Dandenault's a much better fit on that line than Kostopoulos though because he's got more talent and speed so he can play with those guys (even though he's not a 1st line calibre player - that's obvious). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Hey Lazy I love Koivu as well but when his line is slumping he needs to score. Ideally, yes. But if his linemates would score, then the line wouldn't be slumping. Why just blame Saku, which is what a lot of people are doing. I agree he is part of the problem, but certainly not the whole problem. People are setting expectations too high. Saku isn't a goal-scorer.. he is a playmaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataclaw Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 (edited) Koivu was pretty good tonight. He generated some decent offense. Dandenault, whom people like to hate on for some inexplicable reason, was stellar again tonight. He's fast, forechecks well, and has some decent finesse as we saw with his backhand goal. Overpriced, debatable, but looking at players and strictly what they bring to the table, i'm more than satisfied with Dandy. (Especially for the role we ask of him) Edited December 7, 2007 by Cataclaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quebecois Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 well it didnt look good in the second period at all, but at least we woke up for the third. Sure wouldve been nice to see the boys play a full 60 tonight but ill take the 2 points and move on. Man if we hadnt played the Bruins and Canes this year id hate to see where we would be in the standings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobin Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 A valid point, but Saku has never been one to put up a lot of goals. Comparision-wise, I think he's very similar to Savard, who has 3 goals in the last 16 games. The difference is that Savard has linemates that will bury the chances he sets up. I'm not disputing that Saku is in a slump, but the blame can't be blamed squarely on his shoulders. Sorry, but Koivu has not been setting anyone up consistantly lately. His passes are crap, he is a step behind, and he is knocked down easily. Koivu is not playing well, period. Stop blaming the wingers. (not that they are playing great either) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBHabs_fan Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Goalscorer or not, he's being outproduced by the #2 centre and outplayed by the #4 centre. I think Dandenault's a much better fit on that line than Kostopoulos though because he's got more talent and speed so he can play with those guys (even though he's not a 1st line calibre player - that's obvious). Both of those statements are false. He's not being outproduced by the # 2 centre, and he's definitely not being outplayed by the #4 centre. Just ridiculous. Some people just get kicks out of knocking the guy. It's really getting old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Finally a win! A game against the Bruins is always good for the boys. They're is like an unwritten rule in hockey that say the Canadiens arent allowed to loose against the Bruins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Sorry, but Koivu has not been setting anyone up consistantly lately. His passes are crap, he is a step behind, and he is knocked down easily. Koivu is not playing well, period. Stop blaming the wingers. (not that they are playing great either) If you read my post, you should know that I am not just blaming the wingers... I am blaming the entire line. That is my issue: people are only blaming Koivu when then are clearly more factors in play. You even mention that yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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