Spider-Man NL Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 By PAT HICKEY The National Hockey League season hasn't started yet but the Canadiens are assured of a record. The CBC released the 2005-06 Hockey Night in Canada schedule yesterday and the Canadiens will make a record-low nine appearances on the peoples' network. The team might have been close to a shutout if the Canadiens didn't play the Toronto Maple Leafs. Six of the eight HNIC games are against the Leafs, beginning with the Oct. 8 game in Toronto. The other Toronto games are Oct. 15, Nov. 12 and 26, Jan. 28 and March 25. There will be a Leafs game on CBC every Saturday night. The Canadiens will play Ottawa in an afternoon game on Jan 7 as part of Hockey Day in Canada, will play the second game of the Saturday doubleheader on Jan. 21 in Vancouver and will be matched against Pittsburgh with Mario Lemieux and Sidney Crosby on March 18. The Leafs will make 27 appearances. Vancouver will be featured 15 times; Edmonton 13 and Ottawa and Calgary 10 each. Every Canadiens game will be televised on RDS and there will be 12 Montreal games on TSN, beginning with the game against the New York Rangers on Oct. 6. But the limited schedule on CBC won't be good news for those fans who don't have cable or satellite service. Ironically, fans who don't have cable outside Quebec will have more access to Canadiens' games. RDS and Radio-Canada are working out the final details of a deal that will allow Radio-Canada to simulcast Saturday night RDS games. Shock on the way: NHL players may be surprised to find their paycheques are lighter than expected this winter. That's because salaries around the league are reaching the predicted threshold at which the escrow provision of the new collective agreement kicks in. Revenues are expected to be $1.8 billion U.S., which means there is about $970 million available for salaries. So far, 546 players have signed contracts worth $900 million. If the total salaries go over the $920-million mark, every player will take a cut. You might be wondering how this is possible if all the clubs are under the team salary cap of $39 million. The answer is because the real salary cap is $32.4 million per team. The NHL and the NHLPA expected a certain number of teams would be above the cap and others would be below and the average would be in that $32-million range. What has happened is that even some of the frugal teams have gone on spending sprees and one owner, Craig Leopold of the Nashville Predators, fears that the average team salary will be $35 million. For the record, Leopold is in a position to criticize some of the more profligate owners. His team has committed about $26 million to 19 players. Big serves don't mean much: The hardcourts at the U.S. Open are supposed to favour the big hitters but there's one interesting stat after two rounds of play in the men's singles. The top three players in terms of service aces are Ivo Karlovic, Gustavo Kuerten and Gilles Muller and they have all been eliminated. So have Andy Roddick and Greg Rusedski, the Montreal-born Brit, and those are the two guys with the fastest serves on the tour. Roddick's loss might the wakeup call he needs. The former No. 1's play has been marked by inconsistency ever since he dumped coach Brad Gilbert and it may be time for the headstrong Roddick to reconsider that decision <img src=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Jason/PardyJ/pissoncbc.jpg> [Edited on 2005/9/3 by Spider-Man NL] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider-Man NL Posted September 3, 2005 Author Share Posted September 3, 2005 The TBC and Hockey Night in Toronto can kiss my a$$........RDS Rocks.........I well be watching those 8 Montreal games that CBC has on RDS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 I have RDS but i have a brother who doesn't. Boo CBC, there is a whole line up of a$$es to kiss now! Please, please RDS and Radio-Canada, for the sake of those who don't have cable nor a choice with a public broadcaster with a clear bias toward Toronto, sign that deal to simulcast Saturday night games. Long distance calls between my brothers and i during Habs games on Saturday nights are what get me through the season. CBC just keeps getting worse...and i used to be a huge fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyhasbeen Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 Great, first TorontoSN and now more loser fans in broadcasting. F em, I will watch RDS even though I can't speak a word of French, who knows by the end of the season I maybe bi-lingual. Et la but! Oh, what are they planning for the post season when the leafs play golf? Or the late season when the leafs are out of the race? Badminton? Fools at the helm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyhasbeen Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 Actually in hind sight, badminton would be a lot more interesting than a leafs wild game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortcat1 Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 There was a time when CBC used to carry Toronto games in the 'Toronto region' which meant southern Ontario and mostly the Montreal games in other regions of the province. I haven't really followed CBC in a long time (I always watched Radio-Canada and then RDS) so I was never aware of the developments. The same thing happened with Radio-Canada a few years ago. They and the Canadiens didn't renew their long-standing contract for the Saturday night games. (It seems that RDS would give the Canadiens more money.) So, even in Québec, if one doesn't have access to cable TV, no Canadiens games were available in French either. :puke: I feel badly for all those habs fans who are affected by all that. It may very well be a 'political' thing though I don't know. :puke: :puke: :puke: :nono: Those in Canada (like johnnyhasbeen in Halifax) who have access to RDS, will have to go with that, I suppose. Better than nothing. You could probably get a webcast of the game and play it at the same time but, in my experience, the televised and webcast games are not exactly simultaneous (there is a discrepancy gap in time). For what it's worth, the Canadiens are worth it. :hlogo: What else can I say? :ghg::ghg::ghg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daspin Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 First off. Hi all. New to this board. Signed up a long time ago, but was a regular elsewhere and never cam around. Been reading posts around here, and seems like a good bunch of guys. So greetings all. now on topic, As a Montreal Native and habs fan now living in the Toronto area, I gotta figure out the best way I can get my habs fix. In seasons past it was never a problem since I "borrowed" the games from Direct TV, but thats over now. Looking into the NHL Centre Ice package, but that requires getting digital cable at $100 per month plus another $30 per month for the NHL package. Anyone know if you can just subscribe to RDS?? CBC has always caters to Leaf Nation and I just cant handle only watching the Saturday games. ANyone here from the TO region in the same boat? How do you get your habs fix?? Is the NHL Centre Ice Package my best option?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puck7x Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 Listen guys, I understand your upset about this CBC garbage. But lets be real, the Canadiens have BY FAR the best broadcasting arrangment of any team in the NHL, no other team has 2 languages to choose from. Canadiens fans will always be able to watch all 82 games on RDS, a large portion of those games will also be shown on TSN/CBC/SNET/SRC . No other team can say that, not even the leafs. Some teams dont even have all 82 games broadcasted, the habs get all 82 games, and a choice of 2 languages for most games. Sweet deal. Also no other team has EVERY game broadcasted nationally (Habs on RDS). Nobody comes close. Its 2005, if anyone still doesnt have cable or satelitte then you've got problems and need to catch up with the rest of the world ... BTW: You can buy RDS as part of the french package on BEV I'm pretty sure, only costs a couple of dollars a month I think, or just phone them up and complain that you'd like to only subscribe to RDS, or that RDS should be apart of their sports-package. [Edited on 2005-9-3 by puck7x] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quebecois Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 CBC has always caters to Leaf Nation and I just cant handle only watching the Saturday games. ANyone here from the TO region in the same boat? How do you get your habs fix?? Is the NHL Centre Ice Package my best option?? I live in the Toronto area and up until a couple years ago i only got the Habs Saturday night games on SRC, and like you, i got fed up of having to listen ot the game on internet radio. I think that the best way to get your Habs fix is not to get NHL Centre Ice, but to buy Bell Express Vu, and subscribe to the package "Le monde en Francais." Its a lot cheaper to go this route as opposed to getting Centre Ice. BEV is also a very good thing to have, even outside of RDS, due to the time shifting and the boatloads of channels. Im not sure, but i dont think that either Rogers or Cogeco offer RDS, but i could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daspin Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 How much is BEV?? And, this may sound stupid, and you may or may not know, but will my direct TV dish work with BEV since its already installed? I just certainly cant imagine a season passing by with only watching the habs on Saturdays.. Im gonna call Rogers and find out about just subscribing to RDS as an option as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankhab Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 The only bright side to the CBC pro Leaf schedule is that this year, when we're sitting around watchin the game with buddies, the Leaf fans will be mostly frustrated, because I predict a big fall from grace for the Leafs this year. Also, It'll be fun listening to Cherry blaming Kaberle and Sundin for everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafs Suck Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 CBC is supposed to not be about $$$ and is supposed to be about CANADA... THe fact it sellouts us out and pumps the country full of their pro-Toronto and all of Canada loves Toronto nonsense is a big reason why most of the country is anti-Toronto. Interesting stat I read up on. Montreal, out of all the Canadian teams infact 3rd overall, in road attendance. So they were a bigger draw on the road than Toronto. With the way the CBC talks, you'd figure Toronto outdraws everyone. Infact they're 3rd amongest Canadian teams, and barley ahead of Vancouver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puck7x Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 Originally posted by Leafs SuckCBC is supposed to not be about $$$ and is supposed to be about CANADA... THe fact it sellouts us out and pumps the country full of their pro-Toronto and all of Canada loves Toronto nonsense is a big reason why most of the country is anti-Toronto. Interesting stat I read up on. Montreal, out of all the Canadian teams infact 3rd overall, in road attendance. So they were a bigger draw on the road than Toronto. With the way the CBC talks, you'd figure Toronto outdraws everyone. Infact they're 3rd amongest Canadian teams, and barley ahead of Vancouver. Another interesting fact: The Canadiens always draw a higher TV audience than the leafs, when you combine what the habs get on SRC+CBC vs what the Leafs get on CBC , you see that the habs always have the higher numbers. Which makes us the #1 most popular team in the country.... But it makes sense why CBC prefers to show the Leafs over the habs, its because they know that alot of the habs audience is just going to watch on SRC/RDS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortcat1 Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 Bob: Hey, do you know who that is? Doug: Nope Bob: That's Jean Larose. He was Montreal Canadien rookie of the year two years ago, he don't play hockey anymore Doug: No way Bob: I got that guys hockey card at home ---------------------------------------------------- That's a great signature!!! Reminds me of a hot rock band called Great White North. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAK Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 If montreal plays nashville in the finals...be sure that cbc will cheer for that great young team : the Predators cbc has never liked the habs: they got some sort of a complex since the maple laughts have won their last cup in 67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie_Morenz Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 puck7x you make a very valid point however there is a flaw. Not your flaw, you have been trapped in the CBC flaw. How deep in our pockets do the government agencies go to take our money and produce crap on this station, like the Maple Leaf Hockey team? Here's what happens (It shocked me) An hour of premium canadian programming costs $1million. Canadian broadcasers pay licence fee of $200,000-$250,000 per hour while taking in $65,000-$95,000 dollars. In the French Canadian market it is 5 times more expensive to produce Canadian content then to import and translate American programming. Canadian producers recover their costs through (Your tax dollars in Large Letters) PUBLIC SUBSITIES and foreign sales. Up to 60% comes from public sources like broadcast fees, the CANADIAN TELEVISION FUND, TAX CREDITS, PROVINCIAL FILM COMMISIONS, and CRTC mandated private funds. Now that my tax dollars are used on a channel that I do not watch, I have to PAY to get RDS in my home town in order to watch the most glorius hockey team ever created. Hey I had to back up my point in the CBC flaw. This stuff is all available on http://www.cbc.radio-canada.ca Open the markets, forget provincial blackouts and dump CBC. Now back to regular postings :ghg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigRedC Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Your exactly right Howie, it burns me up to see tax money going to the CBC. Its the Canadian Broadcasting corperation, not the Toronto Broadcasting Corporation and HNIC should realize that. I dont want my money going to finance a team i dont like, its being funded by all of Canada, so they should not just be showing toronto (1st game) Last time I checked there are 3 teams in Eastern Canada... On a lighter note, im getting centre-ice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMAC Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Hey guys being outside of Canada, I almost never get to see any games although I listen to a few live on CJAD and as many as I can on delay from NHL.com. Fpx Sports was supposed to carry NHL games over here last year, but you know how that worked out Does anyone know where i could get a webcast? I know the quality might not be great but it would be a big improvement on nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~moeman Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 As a few of my ex-ceeb board and metro colleagues know I have a hate on for elf and for hnic. elf will tell you to change the channel even though your hard-earned tax dollars go to prop up Canada's most hated team. They'll blow blue&white steam up your a$$ and yip yap about ratings and the bigger (dumber) market of elf at the CotU. Its all cr@p of course but then again it comes from elf. cbc has a national mission. Considering what they cram via hnic they are failing badly. I've emailed back & forth for years with cbc HQ execs. They comment that the market determines what viewers see. This might explain Anne of Green Gables and Beachcombers 2005 but with 6 teams to choose from and a huge slice of air time given to the leaf, the ceeb is simpy giving true and knowledegeable hockey fans the finger. Some fans are in the closet and don't see things so good. The Habs scored a great full-season+playoffs deal with RDS. 5 years / $80M. the coverage is very good and because its a private company I don't mind the homerism (mostly by ex-Habs Benoit Brunet and coach Demers). Luckily we aren't insulted by complete morons like cherry, cole, neale, friedman, starchcan, millen and mclame (i omit healey cause I think he got punted but he is the worst). The really sick thing about a supposed national show like hnic is how they go out of their way to leafify all content. They are a sick and cloistered bunch but the annual leaf playoff bail is as delicious as it gets. Its like 38 layers of icing. hnic has become a home for racism, bigotry and fascism. I, personally, am not surprised that elf lap it up like lemmings. I am glad that the Habs are not associted, in any, way, shape or form with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafs Suck Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Healey was the worst of them all. Remember him mocking Ribeiro cuz he put a towel over the camera in the penalty box. "Oh who would want to look at Ribeiro anyway"... 100% uncalled for The other was "The great thing for Boston about playing a weak team like Montreal, you can knock them out in 4 or 5 and get a few days rest"... that in Game 2... Glad he jinxed it... That victory in 04 over the B's was sweet, but the greatest feeling of all was the fact Healy's idiotic comments came back to make him look like a fool. He is living proof karma is a sweet thing. I remember Healy mocking great guy Randy McKay's voice in the 01 playoffs after McKay called Domi out for hitting Niedermayer. Again, Healy's ignorance came back to bite him right in the rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~moeman Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Good points LS. It behooves me (look it up) why hnic and tsn see value in such a vapid empty (ex-leaf) wad like healey. He's arguably the most transparent idiot on teevee today (yes the same teevee that includes doncherry). Maybe its for comic relief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafs Suck Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Atleast when Cherry first started he called the leafs how it is. CC actually had a purpose and was watchable. Since Cherry's anti-Canadian rants a few years back and his pro-Leaf stance he's become unwatchable. I think the loss of Rose drove him nuts and he hasn't been able to find his mind since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~moeman Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Didn't don's dog die? (kidz, I'm making a funny, this is not a leaf slag but feel free to think so) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafs Suck Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 The original yes, I believe he's adopted others and given them the same name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~moeman Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 <i>"adopted others and given them the same name."</i> The leaf, the butt-sniffing dogs that they are, tried that to scam 2 extra Cups to the tml name. Didn't work. I think cherry should call his dog 'boy'. Figure it out yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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