Commandant Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Grant looks at a potential team Canada roster http://lastwordonspo...canada-in-2014/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 So young, but yet so powerfull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I don't really know Benn. Is he a good shutdown guy ? cuz even if we play European ice rink, we'll need some... I know Seguin and Toews are though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Fleury in net. I hope Canada enjoys the cardboard medal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Fleury in net. I hope Canada enjoys the cardboard medal. Agree. I wouldn't go with Fleury neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Agree. I wouldn't go with Fleury neither. It was pretty easy to notice the Pittsburgh bias with Letang on the top line anyway. Not saying Letang couldn't be there but it was an easy catch. Fleury confirmed it. I'm personally biased into believing that by 2014 Price will be one of the three best goalies in the world and no Canadian will compare but even if he isn't, it will be a pretty even match between him and Cam Ward. Anyone else, even Luongo, will just be there for the ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted August 22, 2012 Author Share Posted August 22, 2012 The Other Day we took a look at Canada’s team for 2014. Today our resident Russian hockey guy, Max Vasilyev looks at the Russians http://lastwordonsports.com/2012/08/22/what-russian-2014-olympic-roster-could-look-like/# Does Markov make it? Emelin? Perezhogin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHIW_HWL Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 The Other Day we took a look at Canada’s team for 2014. Today our resident Russian hockey guy, Max Vasilyev looks at the Russians http://lastwordonspo...uld-look-like/# Does Markov make it? Emelin? Perezhogin? I agree on the whole with the article, but Evgeny Kuznetsov should make the Sochi team ahead of Grigorenko or Yakupov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted August 23, 2012 Author Share Posted August 23, 2012 I agree on the whole with the article, but Evgeny Kuznetsov should make the Sochi team ahead of Grigorenko or Yakupov I agree. Someone pointed that out in the comments and max responded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted August 23, 2012 Author Share Posted August 23, 2012 I don't really know Benn. Is he a good shutdown guy ? cuz even if we play European ice rink, we'll need some... I know Seguin and Toews are though. Mark my words for anyone in hockey pools If you get a chance to take him in a mid round, draft Jamie Benn.... I'm betting he's this year's version of Claude Giroux. Poised for a huge breakout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Mark my words for anyone in hockey pools If you get a chance to take him in a mid round, draft Jamie Benn.... I'm betting he's this year's version of Claude Giroux. Poised for a huge breakout. Everyone that follow hockey knows that Benn will put up some huge points. He already had 63 last season in juste 71 games an could put up 80+ somewhat easily. But I was asking if he was able to play a strong defensive game. Cuz Canada's lineup usually includes a real strong shutdown line. In Vancouver 2010, don't forget the role played by Morrow and Patrice Bergeron (who's not in the article's lineup). These guys are often the difference between a medal or not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted August 24, 2012 Author Share Posted August 24, 2012 Morrow played a role, I agree.... Bergeron didn't. Bergeron played under 3 minutes per game in the elimination round. Canada had him sit on the bench as the 13th forward and didn't play. Benn plays a pretty good defensive game, but he wouldn't be my guy to do that. My personal lineup is listed in the article comments, i didn't write the article.... but My shutdown line is Mike Richards - Jonathan Toews - Rick Nash Just like the 2010 team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Morrow played a role, I agree.... Bergeron didn't. Bergeron played under 3 minutes per game in the elimination round. Canada had him sit on the bench as the 13th forward and didn't play. Benn plays a pretty good defensive game, but he wouldn't be my guy to do that. My personal lineup is listed in the article comments, i didn't write the article.... but My shutdown line is Mike Richards - Jonathan Toews - Rick Nash Just like the 2010 team Oh, didn't know you were the guy listing his lineup in the comments section. I actually prefer yours over the article's main lineup. You're right, Bergeron played pretty much only some shifts on the PK, this is why I was referencing him as a "role player". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted August 24, 2012 Author Share Posted August 24, 2012 Oh, didn't know you were the guy listing his lineup in the comments section. I actually prefer yours over the article's main lineup. You're right, Bergeron played pretty much only some shifts on the PK, this is why I was referencing him as a "role player". Yeah, I'm Ben... I do all the prospect stuff... and the odd NHL article, but we are putting out so much now that I'm prospect focused and let Maxim, Grant, Tom, and a few others throw up NHL stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Alex Ovechkin once said that he would represent Russia in Sochi with or without NHL approval stamp. How could he make this happen ? Back in the time, was it any kind of age limit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Alex Ovechkin once said that he would represent Russia in Sochi with or without NHL approval stamp. How could he make this happen ? Back in the time, was it any kind of age limit ? It was a statement I don't think he really thought through. The Capitals could easily petition to have the IIHF rule him ineligible if he were to bolt. Not to mention that every other country would be crying foul (and/or quietly encouraging their players to do the exact same). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 It was a statement I don't think he really thought through. The Capitals could easily petition to have the IIHF rule him ineligible if he were to bolt. Not to mention that every other country would be crying foul (and/or quietly encouraging their players to do the exact same). That's what I'm asking. Would it be an age limit ? Could he play as a newly NHL retired player ? Is "newly" an actual word ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 That's what I'm asking. Would it be an age limit ? Could he play as a newly NHL retired player ? Is "newly" an actual word ? There could be an age limit if they decide to go like soccer and make it U-21 or U-25, something like that. They may go with no age limit but no NHL'ers, in which case most countries would just pull players from their leagues (KHL, SEL, NLA, etc). Ovechkin wouldn't be able to retire from the NHL for the purposes of playing in the Olympics and then immediately un-retire. And yes, newly is a real word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 There could be an age limit if they decide to go like soccer and make it U-21 or U-25, something like that. They may go with no age limit but no NHL'ers, in which case most countries would just pull players from their leagues (KHL, SEL, NLA, etc). Ovechkin wouldn't be able to retire from the NHL for the purposes of playing in the Olympics and then immediately un-retire. And yes, newly is a real word. What's the actual ruling on this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 What's the actual ruling on this ? Off the top of my head, I could make a case for that being cap circumvention which is expressly prohibited in the CBA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Off the top of my head, I could make a case for that being cap circumvention which is expressly prohibited in the CBA. So he would have to wait for the new season to make his comeback ? Or what ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 So he would have to wait for the new season to make his comeback ? Or what ? I know in some other pro leagues if a player wants to come out of retirement midseason, the other owners must unanimously vote for him to do so (and they never do). I can't find any reference to a rule like that in the old CBA but the new (current) one isn't out yet. I can't think of a circumstance where it has happened to even look at precedent. If he tries it (and the NHL players aren't going), it's probably going to be uncharted territory and there will be a fight no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 I know in some other pro leagues if a player wants to come out of retirement midseason, the other owners must unanimously vote for him to do so (and they never do). I can't find any reference to a rule like that in the old CBA but the new (current) one isn't out yet. I can't think of a circumstance where it has happened to even look at precedent. If he tries it (and the NHL players aren't going), it's probably going to be uncharted territory and there will be a fight no matter what. Promising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 I think he would just show up at the Olympics and play. The Olympics isn't barring NHL players.... the NHL is stopping their players from being released to play in the Olympics. Ovy basically would be telling the Caps to off. Something like, yeah, I'm going to the Olympics to play for my country. Don't try to stop me, if you do, I'll just hold out until you trade me. If you as an individual team allow it, I'll be back in two weeks. With his mega deal and the amount of merch he sells, he kinda holds the caps over the barrell here, and is one of the few players who could tell his team to F Off, I'm doing what I want. If the Capitals don't complain, the IIHF has no reason to bar him from the Olympics, and the Olympics has no reason to turn down any NHL who shows up (without his team complaining about it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Well, we won't have to worry about any issues with Ovechkin (or any others) bolting for the Olympics without permission as today, the league announced they have reached an agreement to allow NHL'ers to play in Sochi. The NHL will have a 17 day layoff in February meaning that we're going to see some games crunched together more than usual in a non-lockout season. I would imagine quite a few Habs will have chances at going: Canada - Price, Subban USA - Pacioretty, Galchenyuk (long shot but a strong start may get him some consideration) Czech Republic - Plekanec Switzerland - Diaz, Andrighetto (another long shot but I wouldn't rule him out entirely) Russia - Markov, Emelin (he has suited up for them at the Worlds a few times before) Sweden - Nygren (extreme long shot but if he were to surprise at training camp and make the NHL, you never know) Slovakia - Budaj Note that Denmark (Eller) did not qualify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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