dlbalr Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 With no other news today, it's thread-worthy. Of note, it's a 2 year deal commencing this season. Financial terms were not disclosed, I'd expect to see a considerable amount of bonuses in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakiqc Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 With no other news today, it's thread-worthy. Of note, it's a 2 year deal commencing this season. Financial terms were not disclosed, I'd expect to see a considerable amount of bonuses in there. That's some great news. Any indication that he'll be joining the Dogs any time soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I see he's not in the 3 finalists for the Hobey Baker. I guess the ELC is a good consolation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 That's some great news. Any indication that he'll be joining the Dogs any time soon? He already has been assigned there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakiqc Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 He already has been assigned there. Nice.. Will we see him with the Habs this playoffs!? We'll see! Kinda like Chris Kreider with the Rangers last year. He scored some big goals in their playoff run, after playing at Boston College a couple weeks before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canajun Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 yesss! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I would think he gets a call up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 My write-up on the deal (including what he's eligible to earn since older ELC rules apply to him): http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=3050 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 great news... didnt want to lose this prospect. suprised this loophole didnt get fixed in the new cba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 great news... didnt want to lose this prospect. suprised this loophole didnt get fixed in the new cba This had nothing to do with the 'Schultz loophole,' Kristo as a senior had finished his NCAA career and legitimately would have been a UFA in August as several drafted college guys become each year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 the fact that we drafted him and he was on the verge of being a UFA after school is a loophole enough. we should be able to retain his rights for the same amount of time as chl players post schooling... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 the fact that we drafted him and he was on the verge of being a UFA after school is a loophole enough. we should be able to retain his rights for the same amount of time as chl players post schooling... CHL players get 2 years, NCAA players get 4 (sometimes 5 as it was in this case). That's not a loophole; you can't hold a players' rights indefinitely (unless you're Russian at the moment since there's no transfer agreement with their hockey federation). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 exactly... chl 2 years and ncaa should be 2 years post school.. if you draft a freshman and they decide to continue school you have a very short window to get the contract done. your holding rights should start when they decide to finish school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 exactly... chl 2 years and ncaa should be 2 years post school.. if you draft a freshman and they decide to continue school you have a very short window to get the contract done. your holding rights should start when they decide to finish school So you want teams to be able to control college-bound players until they're 24 or 25? Teams would hold way too much leverage over the players then - 'sign with us or you'll have to sit two years.' You're absolutely correct that the current system doesn't allow for a ton of negotiation if a player goes four years but I can't see the NHLPA ever signing off on extending it quite that far. The NCAA may also have some issue with that as that may deter some players from going there as they could be tied into a team they don't want to be with for such a long time. Anything that could push more players to the CHL will anger them as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCPetit Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Great news indeed. I have great expectations for Kristo. Believe that he might help us very soon. IMO, he is no. 1 up in our farm system as a talented forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 5, 2013 Author Share Posted April 5, 2013 Early reports have the contract as follows: 2012-13: Max salary including max bonus ($875,000/87,500), no performance bonuses. 2013-14: Max salary including max bonus ($875,000/87,500), $850,000 in performance bonuses. That means the cap hit would be $1.3 million. A backloaded ELC, I don't think I've ever seen that before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakiqc Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Early reports have the contract as follows: 2012-13: Max salary including max bonus ($875,000/87,500), no performance bonuses. 2013-14: Max salary including max bonus ($875,000/87,500), $850,000 in performance bonuses. That means the cap hit would be $1.3 million. A backloaded ELC, I don't think I've ever seen that before. what does it mean? what are the implications? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 5, 2013 Author Share Posted April 5, 2013 what does it mean? what are the implications? Kristo isn't going to play much, if at all with the Habs this year. Instead of tossing the bonuses, which largely would be un-achievable at this point of the year, in and artificially increasing the cap hit, they put all the bonuses in year two when he's more likely to hit them. As it turns out, one other college player got a deal like that recently (a UFA that signed with Washington). In terms of implications, it just keeps the cap hit more manageable; even if he were to hit all the bonuses next year, the cap hit would just be $1.3 M. It's out of the box thinking but I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakiqc Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Kristo isn't going to play much, if at all with the Habs this year. Instead of tossing the bonuses, which largely would be un-achievable at this point of the year, in and artificially increasing the cap hit, they put all the bonuses in year two when he's more likely to hit them. As it turns out, one other college player got a deal like that recently (a UFA that signed with Washington). In terms of implications, it just keeps the cap hit more manageable; even if he were to hit all the bonuses next year, the cap hit would just be $1.3 M. It's out of the box thinking but I like it. interesting. that seems like a creative deal that is good for both parties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 If you think about it, Subban's deal was similar where he'd make more money in his second season when it counted more for a new contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 5, 2013 Author Share Posted April 5, 2013 If you think about it, Subban's deal was similar where he'd make more money in his second season when it counted more for a new contract. Yep, that's somewhat common (especially for the Habs, that goes back to the bridge deals for Higgins, Plekanec, Komisarek, etc) but they're rare for entry-level deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 He had the assist on the game-winning goal in his first AHL game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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