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Sure, there is no guarantee, almost any prospect can bust. Just making the point that so far, Lindstrom has shown far more offensive upside than Anderson ever did.

Tavares is the most likely one, I think. But current contract aside, I can't see that he would garner a huge return at age 33.

I'm not sure where the idea is coming from that the Leafs would have to pay to trade Marner. He has a year left @ $10.9m and averages 1.1 ppg his entire career. This year was above that average at 1.23 ppg. He's worth every penny of that contract. If the Leafs do trade him, they're easily getting a significant package in return. All of that said, he won't be traded. Matthews and Marner are a 1/2 punch. I doubt Matthews puts up the same production without Marner. Tavares or Nylander would be the likely suspects if they were to trade one of their core 4. Nylander, on a freshly signed deal with a career year behind him would fetch the most outside of Matthews. Outside of a sign and trade or a trade with am extension in place, I don't see either of Marner or Tavares being traded. No team would take that uncertainty and pay what the Leafs will want for them.

Worst case for any prospect not named McDavid or Bedard is a player whose game doesnt translate and he becomes ineffective at the NHL level. Thats not just lindstrom, its everyone in the draft. Worst case is WORST case and we have seen more highly touted players like Daigle, Yakupov, Galchenyuk, quickly find themselves outside the league. Not saying thats my projection on Lindstrom, just saying that busting is a worst case for all these guys.

Slafkovsky has unrelenting swagger and he looked dominant but profanity laced, LOUD, profanity laced attacks on the refs is a bad habit. Fbomb refs are Fbombing Useless. Motherhumper 1 over there and motherhumper 2 over there Shouting that at refs is going to cause you problems. You might get an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty but you are certainly going to be on the receiving end of non-calls when you are fouled. I know he is young but come on Slafkovsky.

Is simply silly to think Reinbacher might be traded anytime soon or near future.

Slafkovski 2a 6 shots 20:01 in 6-4 loss. Caufield 0pts 2 shots 16:25 in loss. Kapanen 1 shot 15:47 in loss

He may well be traded ... they have to give up something halfway significant to make any major move ... but I agree with others that it will have nothing to do with any PR reason ... if anything, were it to come down to non-hockey reasons, trading Mailloux or Reinbacher the fact that David is Hughes' "guy", not Logan is more likely the reason.

The team wouldn't have given him his NHL debut if they were making PR decisions instead of hockey ones. HuGo could have traded him the moment they got the job and blamed it all on the old regime if PR was their concern. Instead they have prioritized getting the kid in the right programs for rehabilitation and getting him coaching to develop him.

we don’t need to agree, I understand your point. I am just saying that based on what I see Now and then on French media I think he will be moved.

I still don’t agree with this point of view. first of all, you don’t make hockey decisions based on PR marketability. If there was still an issue with his conduct, than I could see it as a team not wanting the distraction. If he does well, any half decent PR team would spin it as a redemption story - particularly in light of how the 2018 teams conduct was worse AND it was swept under the rug. hell, Kane al has been through a lot of bad media incidents including spousal abuse, and he has still gotten chances and got a fairly decent deal from another Canadian market. And the clown still posts videos of himself picking up his new Maserati - after the whole brisk of money in Vegas incident, and filing for bankruptcy.

If you are discussing Cayden Lindstrom I wouldn't compare him with Anderson other than being both big and fast. Josh Anderson's best year in junior was 27 goals (never been a big goal scorer) while Lindstrom scored 27 goals in 32 games while still being 17. Much more skilled with the puck. I think the worst case is much higher than Anderson.

yeah, I see the problem: I didn’t know how to say it and said it all wrong. What I mean is that the Habs PR likes to showcase their young stars on Twitch, Discord and other social media popular with teens and young adults. Harris has been the token diversity representative. Caufield and Suzuki often do stuff too. I do believe that Mailloux is a PR headache and for that reason I believe he will be moved. In that sense, what I tried to say, if Mailloux skyrocketed early next season (for example) and got ahead of the PR team: that would be problematic for the organization.

It was fantastic, the Habs received 2 first round picks and used up some cap space (very little in year 2) while Monahan was a great presence. Tremendous asset management. Big kudos to Hughes on this one.

A 90 point guy who is only 27, of course they will get something for him.

PART of the equation is to which, if any, team Marner is willing to accept a trade ... but yes, I suspect it was all tongue-in-cheek ... I took it, and responded, in that sense.

I dont think Marner is at the level of Monahan in terms of trade value. i think the leafs will get something for him, rather than having to pay another team to take him.

As @dlbalr says, it could be Monahan-ish (or maybe even better) ... but unless they first manage to move at least Anderson and Dvorak, somewhere/anywhere - undoubtedly separate trades, it pretty much guarantees off-season LTIR.

Well, the Monahan trade was indeed a great trade. It was just great for Montreal the way it worked out.

True. But the flip side is doing it a year from now means that Treliving and Shanahan have already revamped the roster and failed ... AND ... the new Pres/GM, with no first-hand info/experience, have to immediately commit to re-signing Tavares and/or Marner, letting them walk or getting "pennies on the dollar" trading their rights at the 2025 draft (***IF*** at that point wither would even agree to be dealt) ... realistically, by keeping them Pelley is betting Shanahan/Treliving can do enough to justify keeping them for at least two more summers/seasons. A new Pres/GM now could do the same tinkering around the edges that will be all that Treliving will likely be able to accomplish this summer while learning what they need to know to decide whether they want to keep Marner and/or Tavares. Admittedly not an easy choice for Pelley in terms of what is best for the team in the long-term.

While I get what you're saying, if you replace president and GM now, you're back to holding onto this roster for another year before potential changes while the new president and GM do their evaluation on the roster. At least this season Marner and Tavares are under contract. Marner will want more money and that may price Tavares out of resigning if they do want him back. Toronto's window is closing, they're late into their window. Their core players are already expensive, and not taking team discount, which would of helped massively to shape an entire roster. Delaying this another year could very well push them out of contention, and into the just playing in the playoff phase before a rebuild happens again.

ONLY if he ditches the porn-stache.

And then flip Mitch at the deadline

The leafs need toughness to win in the playoffs. They also were 1-4 with Auston Matthews in the playoff lineup and 2-0 without him Anderson and Savard for Matthews makes sense.

That bolded text above might actually be the best reason to replace Shanahan and Treliving (Can't give Shanahan another GM hire) ... give the new President/GM time to get familiar with the team before having to make decisions on pending UFAs Tavares and Marner, and what is needed to re-set the roster ... if they allow Treliving and Shanahan to try to move Marner and/or Tavares that seems to me like a long-term commitment to them ... and it will be hard to significantly re-shape the roster without moving one of them.