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It's a pretty weak argument though. Drew Stafford went out in the first round with the Bruins. Would we actually be less hard on Bergevin after losing to the Rangers because he at least went out and got Drew Stafford? The result would have been the same. Washington traded for Shattenkirk by the way not Pietrangelo. I know it was a legit mistake, just saying. As for this being about Bergevin's larger body of work, it's a better argument but I don't think the timing for firing him is right. It does seem a little irrational to have both your coach and gm fired during a season where the teams clinched the division and finished tied for 9th in the league after a first round playoff exit. Our offense does need work; it needed work even before last season. But our team as it is can also play better than it showed this year. If Byron and Danault are on our 3rd line depth chart going into next season, then I'll be fine with our team. Lehkonen can join the top 6 and we need one or two top 6 centers if it's the only way to push Danault down.

re Dalhabs comment re David Ling---he is 42 and always a hoot to look at his stats at hockeydb.com -the bad news tonight is The Beast lost game 6 to Manchester 5-4 to give the Monarchs the series four games to two. It just seems every time they went ahead or tied it, Manchester would capitalize on an error. Zach Fucale did look soft on two of the goals and I guess they needed him to be superman every game. I figure David Pacan must have recovered from injury as he was first star with two goals and two assists. Been a fun year. They came oh so close to tying the game in the last minute with Fucale pulled and a power play but it has been a fun year

22 yr old former top 10 pick that couldn't find a roster spot on a offensive heavy Dallas roster. Buy low!

I've been a big proponent of Galchenyuk being our top line center. I thought it was only a matter of time until it would become a regular thing in these very playoffs. There comes a point where the player definitely has to take responsibility for his play though. There are some instincts that players either do or do not have. Galchenyuk has been playing hockey his entire life and if he needs to learn to feel comfortable at a given position, he should have been doing that for the past 15 years. I've played left wing and center and I'm aware that there are different responsibilities for both positions. If a coach asked me to play either, I'd be abke to step up to the plate. Sure, the NHL is a different beast but there have been rookies and sophomores who have been able to adapt their game to the league quite quickly. If I was lucky enough to have the skills of Galchenyuk and was moved to the wing, I would simply adjust my mindset. Cover the point in the defensive zone and create some havoc in the neutral zone hoping to force some odd man rushes. If I was a center? Set up as the high man in the offensive zone and try to cover for any pinches by the d men and try to be the first forward back. Anticipate when a turnover will happen and use my head effectively. Theres no reason that Galchenyuk's progress should have been delayed even with his handling. Galchenyuk has even stated what I said I'd feel about the situation by saying that he's fine with playing either center or wing and will play where the coach tells him to. The 4th line thing was ridiculous but that's happened for about 10 days in his careeer and was an extreme outlier. With Julien I do become a little more worried but as much as I love Galchenyuk and was so happy when we drafted him, enough pampering of him by the fan base as well. He needs to take responsibility for his play as long as he's being given top 6 minutes. Wing or center? It doesn't matter: produce. I think the the whole conversation is for naught though. I believe he will be top 3 in scoring for us next year.

After last year's 30 goal campaign all signs pointed to Galchenyuk having a big year as a full time #1 center. So in theory we already had our top center in place, no need to go get one. As for Plekanec, he had half of the production that he did the year before. No matter how old he is getting, we were easily expecting him to slot in at #2 or #3 and score more points. So that left Desharnais, Danault and maybe Shaw to fill in the 3rd line. That's not that bad at all, especially after signing Radulov and correctly identifying that Lehkonen would stay with the big club and contribute. With regards to "telling the coach" to put him at center, don't you think that's a recipe for disaster? The coach is paid to coach. It's ultimately his decision to configure the lines whichever way he thinks gives the team the best chance to win. The GM is paid to put together the roster, not where they play or how much they do. If you can think of a scenario where the GM told the coach how to coach and it worked out well for the team, I am all ears. I agree that the trade deadline was disappointing. However it is hard to get excited about some of the names that were dealt. Who was he supposed to get to play center? Martin Hanzel, Brian Boyle? Okay, he could maybe have got Vanek or Eaves but that doesn't solve the top center issue. Could he have overpaid with our future and landed Duchense? We don't know what the asking price was, and I'm certain that if we knew I highly doubt most would be on board with it. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. It's getting ridiculous around here. It's the same garbage we heard about Therrien for years, that he is a moron and incompetent. It's one thing to criticize a person on how they do their job but to say Marc Bergevin is incompetent is laughable. He's made mistakes just like any other GM but when you look at his body of work and where the team is at right now it doesn't justify the abuse. We're not having this conversation if Pacioretty or Galchenyuk scored a couple goals and the Habs squeaked out the win against the Rangers.

Lol I'm not even a Bergevin defender and I find it amusing that you would insinuate so.

You put more words in my mouth than Bergevin puts excuses in a press conference. Makes it easier to rebut my arguments, I supposr.

Problem is that in a true contender, Shaw is a third liner, with spot duty in the top 6, so moving him to centre doesn't improve our top centre situation. I'd rather trade that bum MB than galchenyuk or maxpac. I sure the hell don't want MB be the one deciding who to trade either them for.

As a good hockey analyst said to me the other day... "Shut up Toronthab.. you don't know anything." I'm still working on my rejoinder. I plan to start with something like.. "Oh ya!!". You know..something catchy like that...

No insult intended.. but I agree with you. I hope this won't engender nagging self doubt.

I don't mean to undermine your comments, but I agree with you.

Stinking 2nd class franchise needs blown up big time, scortched earth policy is needed, right CC! Burn Baby Burn!

Good is not good enough, everyone should know that. Now great on the other hand, is great...isn't it.

Looks like you are out of luck then; but, Patrick Roy and Pierre McGuire are available, so you may have some hope yet.

Hey, I am with you man. He f'in failed, has no solutions no solutions, so lets tar and feather the stupid idiot! Lets get it on! How hopeless is the friggin situation? What is the chance Molson will see the light and fire the whole bunch of f'in culls! Or is Molson a bigger boat anchor to success than Bergy?