habs rule Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 I think the senators hit it out of the park Boucher and Crow. They now have in my opinion the best coaching in the NHL we shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Thanks HR, needed a laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 This is kind of what happened when we canned Pat Burns and brought in Demers. Neither was a Super Coach, both were solid coaches though, and the change from one to the other gave a breath of fresh air that contributed to the 1993 run. Demers had been a good coach on a bad Detroit team. Burns on the other hand was one of the best coaches in the NHL. However the point still stands. Montreal needed a change, even if it meant losing a great coach. Look at Nashville dropping Trotz for Laviolette. Trotz I'd say is a better coach but bringing in Laviolette sparked the Predators to play a tougher game without sacrificing speed. There's nothing Trotz could do to wake up the locker except leave, and he has done a strong job in Washington since. It's exceptionally rare for a coach to stay in the same city for 5+ years and stay fresh. Therrien is at year five now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 Thanks HR, needed a laugh. hey you are welcome. I love to make people laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 hey you are welcome. I love to make people laugh. Just really don't think will end up well in Ottawa with those two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 Just really don't think will end up well in Ottawa with those two. I really think they will be good together. Experience and out of the box thinking. I really think Ottawa has made a good move here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 We should still be the better team in spite of le genius. I really think they will be good together. Experience and out of the box thinking. I really think Ottawa has made a good move here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 We should still be the better team in spite of le genius. Yes we do have an anchor, but we are definitely a better team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 I think when we LOST Gallant and Muller we lost the best coaches this team had. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehjay Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I think when we LOST Gallant and Muller we lost the best coaches this team had. Does Muller speak french? Can we get him an ear piece or something so he can pretend because I like Cap't Kirk a lot more then the 'fess-lano' we got right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Does Muller speak french? Can we get him an ear piece or something so he can pretend because I like Cap't Kirk a lot more then the 'fess-lano' we got right now. Muller doesn't speak French. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I loved Muller as a player and he is obviously excellent as an assistant coach. At the same time, there is nothing to indicate that he was anything special as head coach (yes, he had a crap team). In the unlikely event that we were to hire him, it would be on the assumption that he learned from his experience of failure, rather than any actual evidence about his excellence as a head coach. At the end of the day, he is just another dude whose c.v., looked at objectively - and unlike Boudreau's, Hartley's, or Crawford's - pales in comparison to Therrien's. Some guys are just better suited to be assistants. That's something to keep in mind too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehjay Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I loved Muller as a player and he is obviously excellent as an assistant coach. At the same time, there is nothing to indicate that he was anything special as head coach (yes, he had a crap team). In the unlikely event that we were to hire him, it would be on the assumption that he learned from his experience of failure, rather than any actual evidence about his excellence as a head coach. At the end of the day, he is just another dude whose c.v., looked at objectively - and unlike Boudreau's, Hartley's, or Crawford's - pales in comparison to Therrien's. Some guys are just better suited to be assistants. That's something to keep in mind too. Ok I can give you this point, then let us (and tomato if need be) and hire him. He can't make our PP any worse (touch wood how ever obscene) and who knows what else he may be able to 'fix' before TM breaks it (again) IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Ok I can give you this point, then let us (and tomato if need be) and hire him. He can't make our PP any worse (touch wood how ever obscene) and who knows what else he may be able to 'fix' before TM breaks it (again) IMO He's currently in St. Louis. I doubt he's leaving unless the Blues fire him along with Hitchcock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 Does Muller speak french? Can we get him an ear piece or something so he can pretend because I like Cap't Kirk a lot more then the 'fess-lano' we got right now. Fork somebody could translate. Google will do it for forks sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehjay Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Fork somebody could translate. Google will do it for forks sake. Because I live in la belle province I get why french blahblah blah but when it comes to the important job of getting a team in MountReal winning on NHL ice, I'm with the side that doesn't give a sheet if the coach speaks fringalise and hails from Absurdistan where ice only comes around in prolonged centuries of peace and joy. But hey that is me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Most of us agree that the affirmative action policy for bilingual coaches is a bad thing. But few endeavours seem more futile than endlessly complaining about it. It's a fixed fact of life in Montreal, now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehjay Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Most of us agree that the affirmative action policy for bilingual coaches is a bad thing. But few endeavours seem more futile than endlessly complaining about it. It's a fixed fact of life in Montreal, now. All I can say is true but that 'must' has still lead this team into a troue this past season (at the very least). Yes the injuries yet I feel not taking the best coach available is like say... trading Courtnall (sp?) for Kordic and thinking you won that trade (always right to burn a leaf ). I read about cap hits on players vs. play on ice and most complaints always run back towards MT use or no use of players and how PP gets worse year by year, sure buck gets past to ass(.) coach so No excuse is only valid to? Ok fine I'm being a troue now I think I've been holding that in 4 years now :@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 All I can say is true but that 'must' has still lead this team into a troue this past season (at the very least). Yes the injuries yet I feel not taking the best coach available is like say... trading Courtnall (sp?) for Kordic and thinking you won that trade (always right to burn a leaf ). I read about cap hits on players vs. play on ice and most complaints always run back towards MT use or no use of players and how PP gets worse year by year, sure buck gets past to ass(.) coach so No excuse is only valid to? Ok fine I'm being a troue now I think I've been holding that in 4 years now :@ I did not know where to put this so I put it here. Move it if you want. Real interesting article by Stu Cowen: http://montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/nhl/stu-cowan-canadiens-passed-up-chance-to-land-larry-robinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I did not know where to put this so I put it here. Move it if you want. Real interesting article by Stu Cowen: http://montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/nhl/stu-cowan-canadiens-passed-up-chance-to-land-larry-robinson Nothing new in that article. I've been repeating this since they bypassed Robinson and have read either repeat defences on this site of MB/MT or rationalization that Robinson didnt really want to be here anyways. Not going with Robinson should have been a warning sign about three new regime. Not signing Subban to a 12 year deal when it was allowed, not going wit Robinson, signing Danny friggin useless Briere with the money they saved on Subban. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 Nothing new in that article. I've been repeating this since they bypassed Robinson and have read either repeat defences on this site of MB/MT or rationalization that Robinson didnt really want to be here anyways. Not going with Robinson should have been a warning sign about three new regime. Not signing Subban to a 12 year deal when it was allowed, not going wit Robinson, signing Danny friggin useless Briere with the money they saved on Subban. you're right nothing new but a clear confirmation that they forked Big Bird over, and that MB is running an old boys club. I am not impressed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehjay Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I did not know where to put this so I put it here. Move it if you want. Real interesting article by Stu Cowen: http://montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/nhl/stu-cowan-canadiens-passed-up-chance-to-land-larry-robinson Thanks Habs Rule, I didn't want to keep bring negative as I have a feeling that for a guy who post not so often to come around and dump kinda sucks. But this was a good article and like Habs29Retired and you say there is a missing fork on the Habs table and if this management team thinks that one of the 5 'musts' to have on a C.V. is french then I will start posting in only English on ALL french sites that I visit. French is a beautiful language but in PRO-hockey it is ugly and no one cares if Englais is written with an A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRP Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Hind sight is 20/20, and in the end, Bergevin hired his choice. He's the boss, and he stands behind his decisions. End of story. Shoulda, woulda, coulda, by fans is a certainty, no matter what management does.The assumption that the Habs could/should have been on a faster track is based on what?This past season where Price was out and the injuries piled up?Or should the Habs under Bergevin and Therrien, be judged on where the team has come in the tenure of these 2?Some of you talk like there has been no measure of success, when in reality there has been a ton of things to indicate(last season not withstanding) that this team is indeed a contender with a healthy lineup, and granted, a top 6 player added.Teams do that, they try to add what they need under their fiscal plan/budget/salary cap, Bergevin is no different than any other GM.Old boys club? Name one team that isn't that way, Jezzus!Galchenyuk and Gallagher have come along just fine, and so has Subban, and Price had a career season for any goaltender, ever.The team isn't as bad as some of you make it out to be, and there is nothing to indicate that in this cap era, it could be any better with for instance, Big Bird as player development guy. So what the Sharks finally made it to the finals, under their management for once...Malcontents beating a long dead redundant horse... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Hind sight is 20/20 Eh that doesn't apply here. I was defensive of the Habs thinking Robinson didn't really want to come but it seems like he did and Bergevin skipped the best available choice by every possible metric to choose his friend. That's bad management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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